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I can't help but think economically and logically in this case. Being SFOT is my home park and it took them over a year to do the Texas Giant renovation. I can only speculate that the timing of closing Mean Streak wasn't an accident. It might snow for 2 days here compared to how harsh winter is in Sandusky It's a delicate process as I watched them here in Texas, it'll probably take them all winter just to prepare and do the "minor" work that doesn't even involve installing track. We watched here back home as they built it all during a season for opening the following season. It makes sense from a business perspective that this will be in 2018, then it'll tidy all of us over until 2020 for their anniversary and for whatever they may have planned then. Let's be of sound reasoning and quit expecting so much so fast.

I think it should be pointed out that New Texas Giant was a prototype design, and one with an intentionally slow build process. They were inexperienced with the new technology at the time, so they took baby steps. Twisted Colossus easily trumps New Texas Giant in terms of sheer size, scale, and intricacy, and was completed relatively (or at least comparatively) quickly. My prediction is that RMC Mean Streak opens in 2017, but not with the rest of the park at the beginning of the season. Unless they start hauling ass with construction, that is. Sorry for the double post, but it was censoring by acronym for New Texas Giant for some reason.

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Did they happen to mention how heavy that train is?

I feel bad because this is all I post about lately but no... if a park has the ability to open and there's demand and they choose to stay closed then they're dumb. Period. Be creative and figure it ou

So basically there were about as many rides open as there would be in peak season with 15 mph winds.

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When I saw the subtitle of the thread "RMC all but confirmed" I honestly thought we were mocking the fanboys/trolls. Kinda surprised this is happening. I can tell you I will book another 3 day CP trip next year.

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At the risk of being completely overshadowed by all of the Mean Streak & RMC talk, I'd like to share something with you guys.

 

I finally completed my Cedar Point Cinematic/Slow Motion video; it took about 15-20 hours total, but it's finally done, and I hope you guys enjoy it! I have always wanted to visit CP and create a video like this for the park, and am really proud of the result. I'd really appreciate any feedback via a post below, comment on YouTube, or PM here on TPR. Let me know what you think!

 

Without further ado, I present Cedar Point's Steel Giants (feat. wooden coasters)

 

 

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Also, here's a quick run down of some of the coasters we rode during our late-August visit:

Maverick - It's my new favorite coaster. It packs so many different elements in one complete, intense package. It's themed decently, provides great ejector airtime, fast launches, tight transitions, and a really smooth ride. It's everything I could ask for in a coaster.

Millennium Force - This coaster doesn't deserve the hate it gets. It's fast, smooth, has airtime that dwarfs that of the standard B&M hyper, and does all of this while providing a long ride through and over the treetops.

Gatekeeper - Is it forceless? Basically. Is it an awesome ride? Definitely. I loved Gatekeeper, it was such a fantastic experience in the front row on the last train of the night during a spectacular summer sunset. Very smooth and graceful.

Top Thrill Dragster - Loved everything about it except the length. I didn't feel it was fair to compare it to other coasters simply because there isn't enough substance to TTD.

Valravn - It was a good, fun dive coaster, but the vests kill a lot of the potential floating that happens on Griffon. I'd still rank it above Griffon because the layout isn't as repetitive and its a longer ride, but the actual diving wasn't as pronounced. The view, however, was terrific.

Raptor - A really fast paced B&M invert with snappy transitions and great forces. While I didn't appreciate the headbang the corkscrews provided, the rest of the coaster was a ton of fun.

Rougarou - I actually liked this a lot more than I expected to. It wasn't rough in my experience, it shuffled at the bottom of the dive loop and through the corkscrew, but it was pretty smooth otherwise. I would rank it above Dominator; I really liked the twisting transitions.

Magnum - I didn't really get the hype. It was fun I guess, but it was terribly uneventful. The coathangered arrow transitions that start banking about 100 yard too soon didn't help either.

Wicked Twister - Rode it in the back row; every launch made it progressively more rattley. I'm sure its fine in the front, but I wasn't sticking around to test that theory.

Skyhawk - Best. Flat. Ever.

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Great report and video. This thread is reaching into Kings Dominion thread territory so I'm thrilled to see someone trying to change the subject. I'm also glad someone else thinks Gatekeeper in the front row is awesome. It's forceless as hell but I don't care.

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Mean Streak bears so much resemblance to New Texas Giant in terms of scale, size, similarities in layout and length, etc. It's very exciting to me to think that RMC now has had 10 additional goes at coaster design and however many years of experience to rectify whatever might be lacking in New Texas Giant in terms of ride experience. It's like they almost get a second shot at their prototype model, taking what they've learned from their most recent (and arguably more thrilling) products (ie Lightning Rod, Wildfire, Medusa Steel, etc). Given the amount of height and length they have to work with, and their recent successes, I have no doubt this is going to undeniably be cream of the crop after they've had their way with it, and it will be so cool to see how far they've been able to come. Whichever year they open it. Count me as giddy-school-girl level excited, regardless of whether they open it tomorrow or in 2025.

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I can't help but think economically and logically in this case. Being SFOT is my home park and it took them over a year to do the Texas Giant renovation. I can only speculate that the timing of closing Mean Streak wasn't an accident. It might snow for 2 days here compared to how harsh winter is in Sandusky It's a delicate process as I watched them here in Texas, it'll probably take them all winter just to prepare and do the "minor" work that doesn't even involve installing track. We watched here back home as they built it all during a season for opening the following season. It makes sense from a business perspective that this will be in 2018, then it'll tidy all of us over until 2020 for their anniversary and for whatever they may have planned then. Let's be of sound reasoning and quit expecting so much so fast.

I think it should be pointed out that New Texas Giant was a prototype design, and one with an intentionally slow build process. They were inexperienced with the new technology at the time, so they took baby steps. Twisted Colossus easily trumps New Texas Giant in terms of sheer size, scale, and intricacy, and was completed relatively (or at least comparatively) quickly. My prediction is that RMC Mean Streak opens in 2017, but not with the rest of the park at the beginning of the season. Unless they start hauling A$$ with construction, that is. Sorry for the double post, but it was censoring by acronym for New Texas Giant for some reason.

I agree Twisted Colossus was a huge project, the original Colossus had over 8000ft of track to rip out, plus the massive structure. That being said, RMC had California's mild weather on their side. Not to mention we're in a drought here so rain was scarce during construction.

 

I'm not saying ya or nay for 2017, but there are more intangilbles pointing towards 2018. I'm sure all of us want 2017 though, we're in the instant gratification era

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Not to mention we're in a drought here so rain was scarce during construction.

 

I see what you wrote, but all I read was "business as usual"

 

Also, we did see a fairly rough winter (as far as regionally) in Pigeon Forge for Lightning Rod as far as I recall, and they still cranked through the construction fairly well. The crews in Sandusky amaze me with their resolve in the elements when building big stuff. As I said earlier, I'm not swayed one way or the other, but I agree it's "strange" for RMC to show up this early.

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Could someone tell me what the boat thing is, and explain why it's so annoying?

 

 

Fixed that for you.

 

But back in early December 2015, while the world record breaker, Valravn, was being constructed, many people were complaining shocker about people posting photos of the littlest things happen, I.e. track piece coming onto site, a bolt being tighten, the usually. So someone posted a photo from the webcam and said a long the lines of "as you can see, a boat is leaving the marina" and then that started the whole boat thing.

 

It went on all off-season. ["gif of Robin Williams saying 'good times']

 

Let me stop you right there.

 

It was horrible.

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If you remember, Texas Giant was closed in 2009 before opening in 2011 as NTAG. Same with Wildfire, announced in March 2014, opened summer 2016. Both of these have much longer & high-profile layouts compared to most of the other conversions/new coasters from RMC that were done in less than a year.

 

Here's a post from Screamscape explaining why SFStL hasn't given the RMC treatment to the Boss yet:

 

Looking at how Colossus was handled at Six Flags Magic Mountain, the track length was shorted considerably in that transformation, and according to all sources, the idea was floated to RMC for some initial ideas along with a budget range to stay within, and the result was similar... to stay within budget, the length of The Boss would have to be shortened considerably. Shortened to the point that the feeling is that it wouldn't be worth the effort, as the final result wouldn't even be anything like The Boss any longer.

 

So assuming CP wants to keep most of the original structure and basic layout pattern of Mean Streak intact (like SFOT did with NTAG), I would definitely put my money on this being a 2018 project. It would explain a lot...like why they've closed Mean Streak as early as they did and still haven't announced the layout yet, instead choosing to focus on promoting the water park expansion for 2017 while all the extensive prep work is going on.

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First off.....

 

BOAT BOAT BOAT BOAT BOAT.....

 

whew - got that off of my chest.

 

Now - Am I mistaken that Mean Streak was very similar to Texas Giant (the original?) If so - I certainly wouldn't complain with an "upgraded" NTAG at the Point. It would definitely get me to make the road trip or fly up there again to ride.

 

Either way, this is pretty exciting

 

Last note - I never found Mean Streak to be particularly rough. I found it to be exceptionally boring, but never too rough.

 

David

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The one thing i would like is how did people get pictures from the back of the park over the last two days. The park is closed they don't just let any one drive around the parking lots.

People are working on site all year. Those people send pictures to friends. Those friends share pictures to the internet. The internet looks for boats anyways.

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If you remember, Texas Giant was closed in 2009 before opening in 2011 as NTAG. Same with Wildfire, announced in March 2014, opened summer 2016. Both of these have much longer & high-profile layouts compared to most of the other conversions/new coasters from RMC that were done in less than a year.

 

Wildfire's construction delays also had to deal with permit issues and other paperwork. Otherwise it would have opened earlier.

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The boat stuff and the #ItllNeverOpen crap that was in the Dollywood thread this past year were enough to make one want to delete their TPR account, set their computer ablaze, and run away to a mental institution.

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