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Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread
MoreyMan replied to Homer's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
Yeah, an article floating around about Great Escape said Enchanted will gain access to the park within 4-6 weeks to start the changeover so I assume St. Louis is on a similar timeline too. - Yesterday
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Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread
SteveStL replied to Homer's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
Ahh, yeah it does look rather tame. Be careful, they could send it our way. -
Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread
Danrarbc replied to Homer's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
I’m making a joke about Mild Thing -
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SteveStL replied to Homer's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
MId-America over Mid-America STL did too, until the Ninja sent one outta here. -
Hearing the "crown jewel" talk is surprising to a degree, but also not surprising as well. The bones of the park and setting seem good enough to where someone with an actual plan could probably make a good amount of money with it. SFSL is like an earlier game (and therefore easier) roller coaster tycoon level that's fun to play where you inherit a park that already has some good attractions and fun terrain as well as some decent space to add-on, but isn't attracting new visitors. Your task is to improve the overall guest happiness by improving the theming/decor and adding a marquee roller coaster or two. And much like roller coaster tycoon or some other theme park game, there's probably very much a time limit involved for the new company to accomplish said goals here! If nothing else, I am so happy that this park is no longer under the thumb of the horrible previous ownership. What a dumpster fire of an org that turned out to be. In regards to the money people being based in KC and therefore it doesn't matter because the actual park management is based in Florida, yeah that's probably not totally true going by real world experience. You WANT the bean counters to be able to take their kids to a park(s) they are helping finance, even if they technically aren't "involved" in that side of the business!
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It's great to see that they're replacing a classic with something quite similar! This used to be Der Bahn Speed Slides, an early attraction that featured a body slide along a similar route. I rode it last summer, and it was a blast, though it was pretty rough on the body, haha. I'm really looking forward to all the enhancements coming this summer!
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Correct - Innovative Attractions rebranded to Enchanted Parks. All the parks were part of the fixed package except for St. Louis. They apparently demanded that our park be included to make the deal. Read some where enchanted parks management is going to be on site soon. Their CEO seems engaged and Enchanted Parks customer service on social media appears to be very responsive
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Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread
teacherkim replied to Homer's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
Seriously though, continuing to maintain historic rides like the carousel and Screamin Eagle will be an early indicator of what type of operator the new company intends to be. -
Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread
teacherkim replied to Homer's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
My bad. I was confusing EPR as an acronym for Enchanted Parks. I thought Innovative Attractions was the FL company but apparently that is the former name of what is now Enchanted Parks? Hope I have that straight. Aanyway I was just looking for reasons they went after these specific parks since 4 of them are clustered somewhat regionally. If it is true that they wanted SFSTL specifically then it implies that SF had some flexibility on what they were willing to sell, not necessarily a fixed list. Just curious how it all came down. - Last week
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Danrarbc replied to Homer's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
Is this The crown jewel though? Valleyfair looks pretty good. The park has two mine trains. -
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teacherkim replied to Homer's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
Yeah that has been reported in more than one place. Let's hope it's true. EnPark is headquartered in KC so I'm sure getting both MO parks was very much on their radar. -
Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread
AmyUD06 replied to Homer's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
No, they're saying the exact opposite - they're saying that SFStL has potential, potential that was being ignored, not only by the newly combined SFEC but also Legacy-Six for decades. You do realize that one of the other parks that SFEC sold, Valleyfair, was the "Fair" part of the Cedar Fair name, right? This sale didn't pick sides. You should look on the bright side; if the park wasn't sold to EnPark, there's a good likelihood it would have just been closed SFA-style. -
Holiday World (HW) Discussion Thread
teacherkim replied to robbalvey's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
Ha, ha yeah we do!! -
Holiday World (HW) Discussion Thread
bert425 replied to robbalvey's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
both can be true! tho I love that you drive, ya gotta admit, we have a BLAST together, and so yes, you are tops as an "event partner" -
Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread
bert425 replied to Homer's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
apparently the deal was contingent on SFStL being part of the parks sold. not sure if it's true, but have now seen it reported several places that THIS park was the one they wanted most. -
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bbmchl replied to Homer's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
What pisses me off, and has been bothering me since the announcement is this: they are going to "concentrate on the Six Flags Parks with the greatest potential for innovation, expansion, and elevated guest experiences". So they are saying we are a lower tier park with no potential. Way to dis us on the way out like Kroenke did to St. Louis when he moved the Rams to LA. With the 2026 gold passes we got last summer we had the all park admission perk. We used them at Cedar Point in September, and will likely again this coming September. (There is an e-sports tournament at the Kalahari in Sandusky we attend, and will likely continue to attend for the next few years.) So finally a nice perk we could take advantage of, and its gone after this year. As Kim pointed out, SFSTL is a legacy park. One of only three actually built by Six Flags. No doubt the former Cedar Fair management who now run the show don't give a shit about legacy. I've been going to the park since it opened in 1971. It was our Disneyland. We were a family of seven with modest means, so our annual trip to Six Flags was kind of our summer vacation. I had season passes the summers between 7th & 8th grades, and 8th grand and high school, and practically lived at the park. As an adult our family has had season passes since 2005. Despite the park's flaws chronicaled here over the years, we supported the park and felt a certain pride of having our own theme park here in St Louis, a short drive away. Just like we used to have our own airline (TWA), our own aero-space company (McDonnell-Douglas), our own major brewery (AB), and more, it just seems like we are losing another piece of St. Louis by being cast off by Six Flags to some unknown start up. It feels like a pretty hard kick in the shins. Will we give the new operators a chance in 2027? Maybe. We'll have to see what they do with the prices, what the plan is, and if they really do value us as their crown jewel and invest in our park accordingly. Mike -
Holiday World (HW) Discussion Thread
teacherkim replied to robbalvey's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
Do you love me as an event partner or because I will do all the driving, lol? Just kidding, can't wait, the weekend should turn out to be super Fetch! -
I think the thing they did wrong was to be located on land that became more valuable than all the other assets of the park I would have to assume all the DC themeing will go, easy enough to change the name of a coaster or flat. The question is what about Justice League? That would have to be a complete ride re do
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Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread
teacherkim replied to Homer's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
I'm sure you are probably correct, because unlimited drinks are listed as a benefit on the passes on the app. I just think they bundled it together so seamlessly that I never considered it an add-on. Kind of a moot point now. For this year it appears the same and as stated above kind of a moot point now, lol. The NEW question is will they allow you to move the membership to a new home park in the SF chain or is that now the end of memberships for many people. And will those of us whose home parks are no more even find it worth while to keep the membership? -
Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread
teacherkim replied to Homer's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
Well I guess deep down we all kinda knew it was coming. It's one of those things that are shocking but at the same time not surprising at all. Nothing to do but think happy thoughts and adopt a wait and see stance. IF it's true that it was considered the "crown jewell" (I saw that too) then theoretically it should be a good thing as it would be at the top tier of investment. Of course we have no idea how much the new company has for investment or what the quality of that investment will be. I really don't care about the DC theming but if they can't use it for Justice League they will have to basically have a whole new ride. Same ride system and track but essentially an all new ride. Maybe that will end up being the first "new" attraction. Curious to see if they honor ACE Coaster Con, in 2027 it was already announced that it would be held at SDC and SFSTL. I think this might say more about the shape SF is in than anything else. If they were willing to let one of their original parks go, one that has always been reported as being profitable, then they might be in more trouble than anyone really thought. On the other hand if you live near MM or GAdv or CP or any of the parks still in the SF chain you are probably relatively happy as it should mean, again theoretically, that they will have more investment for those parks. If nothing else it will be interesting to see how it turns out over the next few years. -
Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread
AmyUD06 replied to Homer's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
Allow me to introduce: removepaywall.com Option 3 tends to always work for me, but sometimes you need to archive the page you're looking for yourself. -
I agree. SF wanted DL back and I believe an option to purchase was part of the original lease agreement IIRC. It would not suprise me one bit if they did outright buy it. As has been stated many times DL has multiple revenue streams. Also if the premise was to exit from the EPR lease, why send SFA "parts" to DL. Also, I was thinking about the low sale price for the 7 Enchanted parks, possibly being tied into a DL sale to SF. Again, just speculating.
