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P. 274: Pipeline photos & Howl-O-Scream trip report!

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When I first heard this was going to be a "standup" I was kind of skeptical, but a launched standup with bouncy seats....might just be kind of fun? 

Two other random thoughts about this addition,

1 it will be nice to have this open during Howl O Scream, so Mako, Manta, Ice Breaker and bouncy standup coaster is a pretty decent lineup of coasters for a Halloween event.

 

2, the location of this in the renderings with the pathways and the interaction on the waters edge all look great. I used to love that area of the park past the stadium and around towards the water front but it was only open during special events and stuff seasonally. It will be nice to have that area open all the time after this coaster is built.

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I am confused.  Traditionally, stand up coasters are ridden in the stand up position and the seat is there for straddling and not for sitting soooooo how will bouncing seats really be felt if we are standing?

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1 minute ago, jarmor said:

I am confused.  Traditionally, stand up coasters are ridden in the stand up position and the seat is there for straddling and not for sitting soooooo how will bouncing seats really be felt if we are standing?

My "trick" to actually enjoy the old B&M Standups was always to "sit" on the seat and not have you knees locked out, so I'd imagine this will work roughly the same way.

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20 minutes ago, SharkTums said:

So not to get all coaster nerdy, but is B&M doing the launch for this? How long will the bouncey seats last? 

I guess I was under the impression that Indrivetec owned by Intamin made all the LSM's for Intamin and another company suppllies Vekoma RMC Mack B&M ect ect

 

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I’m going to be cautiously optimistic for this coaster. The only standup I have ridden is Green Lantern that I did not like but given B&M’s reputation and it being over 20 years since their last standup, I am expecting this to be much more comfortable to ride.

 

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15 minutes ago, jarmor said:

I am confused.  Traditionally, stand up coasters are ridden in the stand up position and the seat is there for straddling and not for sitting soooooo how will bouncing seats really be felt if we are standing?

I think you're going to need to wear a cup while riding! =)

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As someone who has been following on the sidelines, I did not expect the surf coaster to be this. I'm so confused right now, I believed stand-up coaster where a thing of the past. That said I never done a stand-up coaster and I do want to try this out, here is to hoping one day I might.

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Very interesting addition. I am always happy to see B&M expand their portfolio and innovate a little and produce something unique, so that is cool. The trains also looks *very* open. Like... more open than any other train I've seen. There are absolutely no sides whatsoever and you're essentially just "standing" on a platform. Very cool. Hopefully it's comfortable. My biggest problem with old stand-ups is the 4-across seating is just terrible for heartlining while standing up - those edge seats are always bad. So having it 2-across and a little "suspension" on the seat will be a good improvement.

I am interested to see how the height adjustment works on top of the "bounciness." People already don't ride stand-up coasters properly, most just sit on the bicycle seat, so hopefully 24 years of innovation on the design will pay off.

I think the biggest downfall with the addition is the height restriction. Yet another "adult" coaster. Cool for us but not cool for families. Hopefully their next addition is a proper low-restriction coaster or ride.

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9 hours ago, SharkTums said:

I think you're going to need to wear a cup while riding! =)

 

I say it goes BOUNCY, BOUNCY! OW! OW! OMG! OUCH! OHHhhhhhhhhhcrap. 🤡

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I realize there's probably a pop of air-time here but...

9 hours ago, A.J. said:

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"Hey, we're trying to relaunch one of our least popular ride types that a lot of people found uncomfortable, how should we market this?"

"Use a picture that makes you look like you have to ride on tiptoes."

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I wonder if there'll be the usual height adjustment period during load, or if the bounciness negates the need for that.

And since I'm here, does anyone have a preference for the Christmas season at this park or BGT?

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a surfing position?  nobody in the sea world organization has ever watched someone surf? and left it up to a company in the mtns of Switzerland who only knows skiing?  there were probably 100 people who could have explained its like snowboarding position.....you stand SIDEWAYS. missed opportunity, could have back to back seats and choose your side...reg or goofy footed......oh wait almost forgot, another state that is anti choice.

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13 hours ago, thrillseeker4552 said:

Very interesting addition. I am always happy to see B&M expand their portfolio and innovate a little and produce something unique, so that is cool. The trains also looks *very* open. Like... more open than any other train I've seen. There are absolutely no sides whatsoever and you're essentially just "standing" on a platform. Very cool. Hopefully it's comfortable. My biggest problem with old stand-ups is the 4-across seating is just terrible for heartlining while standing up - those edge seats are always bad. So having it 2-across and a little "suspension" on the seat will be a good improvement.

I am interested to see how the height adjustment works on top of the "bounciness." People already don't ride stand-up coasters properly, most just sit on the bicycle seat, so hopefully 24 years of innovation on the design will pay off.

I think the biggest downfall with the addition is the height restriction. Yet another "adult" coaster. Cool for us but not cool for families. Hopefully their next addition is a proper low-restriction coaster or ride.

My biggest issue with the older models was that the larger ones (Chang, Mantis, Riddler to some extent) were just really uncomfortable from the forces in the standing position, but the smaller ones (Scorcher, Iron Wolf and Vortex before they got older and rough) were mostly fine, Schorcher probably being my favorite. This one seems to be somewhere in the middle, similar speed but a lower height, being a B&M I'm sure it will be smooth and relatively forceless, which on a Standup is probably okay.

 

I feel like everyone is overthinking the "bouncy" aspect a little too much, whatever kind of pneumatic/hydraulic actuator is in there probably only moves about 3 inches so it's just going to be a subtle little feeling in certain spots in the layout.

I do like the 2 across trains, most B&M's with OTSRs kind of suck in the middle seats but these trains being wide open should have some great visuals in every seat.

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11 hours ago, Garet said:

I realize there's probably a pop of air-time here but...

"Hey, we're trying to relaunch one of our least popular ride types that a lot of people found uncomfortable, how should we market this?"

"Use a picture that makes you look like you have to ride on tiptoes."

That seems to be one of the moments the train was designed for.  They aren't on their toes, the seat is lifting them.  From more research, it seems the air time moments are what will be triggering the "bouncy" of the trains.

 

i also wonder if this would be more fat boy friendly as you're standing and your stomach wouldn't be as much as an issue if you were seated.

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6 hours ago, Bamwa said:

a surfing position?  nobody in the sea world organization has ever watched someone surf? and left it up to a company in the mtns of Switzerland who only knows skiing?  there were probably 100 people who could have explained its like snowboarding position.....you stand SIDEWAYS. missed opportunity, could have back to back seats and choose your side...reg or goofy footed......oh wait almost forgot, another state that is anti choice.

This format is weird because I have legitimately no clue if I should read this as a serious post or sarcasm. I hope it's the latter. I'll assume so.

As for the last part you've made your stance on this clear before and I'd bet that many people here including myself agree with you, but you really don't need to inject politics / major issues into a discussion about a new coaster at SeaWorld? The mental gymnastics that people go through these days on the internet to search for a roundabout way to make LITERALLY ANYTHING into a political argument is astounding. Please let's not do this so we have to go through later and clean up the thread from the flame war that's almost guaranteed to ensue.

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7 hours ago, Bamwa said:

a surfing position?  nobody in the sea world organization has ever watched someone surf? and left it up to a company in the mtns of Switzerland who only knows skiing?  there were probably 100 people who could have explained its like snowboarding position.....you stand SIDEWAYS. missed opportunity, could have back to back seats and choose your side...reg or goofy footed......oh wait almost forgot, another state that is anti choice.

Would you like some motion sickness with your Surf Coaster?

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47 minutes ago, coasterbill said:

As for the last part you've made your stance on this clear before and I'd bet that many people here including myself agree with you, but you really don't need to inject politics / major issues into a discussion about a new coaster at SeaWorld? The mental gymnastics that people go through these days on the internet to search for a roundabout way to make LITERALLY ANYTHING into a political argument is astounding. Please let's not do this so we have to go through later and clean up the thread from the flame war that's almost guaranteed to ensue.

Since they've had a history of injecting political discussion in their posts, I've just got ahead and removed them.

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56 minutes ago, jarmor said:

That seems to be one of the moments the train was designed for.  They aren't on their toes, the seat is lifting them.  From more research, it seems the air time moments are what will be triggering the "bouncy" of the trains.

 

i also wonder if this would be more fat boy friendly as you're standing and your stomach wouldn't be as much as an issue if you were seated.

Yea, I get that, hence why I said I know there's a pop of air-time there, I just meant in the context of a still image as the promotional shot for trying to sell the concept of the new generation of stand-up coasters you could have had a picture that shows them in a more natural position. 

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I am a glutton for punishment. I'll try it at least once.  Having ridden three stand-up coasters (Vortex, Scorcher, Green Lantern) and three floorless conversions (Patriot, Rougarou, Firebird) All three conversions were much better than the stand-ups. If Carowinds doesn't scrap Vortex for a new coaster at some point, I would hope they might consider a conversion for it. I speak to non-enthusiast locals who say Vortex is their favorite ride in the park. Masochists.

Maybe this new restraint system and train configuration will wow me. I sent my daughter a link to the Pipeline video and I got the "Y tho" meme back. She rode Scorcher and Vortex and skipped Green Lantern. Fool me twice, won't get fooled again. 

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