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P. 1989: Wicked Twister's permanent closure announced!

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I originally didnt like the refurbishing of mantis because I thought they could perhaps put a dark ride in there and retheme the area being a central part of the park. But whispers are saying floorless with over_the_shoulder restraints. 3 apparently random small sections of launches. With expansion and intertwining with millennium force on the island. Cedarpoint has been my home park since 1975 and im really hoping that they will keep trying to lead the industry in inovation and keeping a wonderful atmosphere for years to come.

By far the most ridiculous comment I've ever read in this thread. If that was their "plan", they might as well just tear the thing down and build it from the ground up.

 

I seriously hope that they are just scrapping Mantis. The layout sucks anyways, and sit down trains won't change that. Sure, the clues are pointing to a sitdown conversion, but Tony could just be trying to throw us off.

He was joking, hence the lemonade picture attached to it.

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I seriously hope that they are just scrapping Mantis. The layout sucks anyways, and sit down trains won't change that. Sure, the clues are pointing to a sitdown conversion, but Tony could just be trying to throw us off.

I really like how Mantis' layout looks, though I've never ridden it. It appears to be a lot more than your typical "inversion after inversion" coaster. I remember that the layout was published in an old book on roller coasters and I was always trace the layout and compare it to photos when I was a child...

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Mantis will be fine as a floorless coaster... the first half is very typical of a good floorless and the second half is pretty dull but not nearly as dull as something like Hydra.

 

I would expect it to be another fun, solid coaster... nothing earth shattering but very enjoyable. As far as I'm concerned it's a brand new coaster because I just walk right by the piece of crap ride that's there now and never ride it no matter what. Floorless Mantis is something I'd actually ride.

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I rode Mantis the year it opened. You should of saw the lines. I am sad to say I actually waited a good bit of time to ride it. It was the mid to late 90s where a B&M standup was the "thing". Now a days, I usually pass by it, since I already got the credit. Rode with my wife once. She absolutely hated it.

 

Now if it were to go floorless, I might have to make a trip back out sometime to ride it. It would be sorta a gamechanger to that ride.

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I seriously hope that they are just scrapping Mantis. The layout sucks anyways, and sit down trains won't change that. Sure, the clues are pointing to a sitdown conversion, but Tony could just be trying to throw us off.

I really like how Mantis' layout looks, though I've never ridden it. It appears to be a lot more than your typical "inversion after inversion" coaster. I remember that the layout was published in an old book on roller coasters and I was always trace the layout and compare it to photos when I was a child...

 

LOL I think you know the exact book youre talking about and am guilty of doing the same thing when I was little. I remember specifically telling my parents I wanted "the book with the yellow roller coaster on it". I agree its a unique layout for a B&M...it deviates nicely from the loop, dive loop, zero-G, cobra, MCBR, interlocking corkscrew formula.

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This is from tonys blog last saturday just let me fuel the fire since no one is really talking about it

Q: That wasn't the announcement, was it?

A: A coaster closure of any kind, at any park, is a big deal. Especially here. So yes, that's a major announcement. Food for thought - we never said it was a 2015 announcement.

 

Q: So...what are you guys doing?

A: Clearly, we're not done. There's more exciting news to come. There will probably be a few more announcements of announcement dates of another announcement for an announcement's announcement.

 

As I've said in the past, we do everything for a reason, including our timing. I can't divulge the specifics, but there's a science to the schedule. Maybe after coffee, I'll tell you. As long as you don't ruin my carpet with dirty shoes!

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I'm not sure what is going on with Mantis is for next year!

 

 

I'm pretty sure no one is. But unfortunately some people think they know what's going on when they really dont.

 

Whatever happens, whether it be to make room for a new coaster, to make room for a new themed area, or a floorless conversion, I'm sure Cedar Point will do a good job.

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I don't think that necessarily means the ride is being removed.

 

By the way, does anyone find it a bit odd that Mantis won't be open on Friday nights during Halloweekends? Sure it hasn't been in the past and I know they have limited availability on Friday but you would think they'd be expecting longer than normal lines due to the fact that it's closing.

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I don't think that necessarily means the ride is being removed.

 

By the way, does anyone find it a bit odd that Mantis won't be open on Friday nights during Halloweekends? Sure it hasn't been in the past and I know they have limited availability on Friday but you would think they'd be expecting longer than normal lines due to the fact that it's closing.

 

I'm more referring to the language/word choice rather than if it is acutally closing for good (especially since CP has previously used a bunch of puns/ambiguity e.g. "last stand").

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Mantis as we know it is closing forever. Just like when you hear XYZ restaurant is closing forever but something else opens in the same place, using the same building, and infrastructure when really just menu and decor changed.

 

By the way, does anyone find it a bit odd that Mantis won't be open on Friday nights during Halloweekends? Sure it hasn't been in the past and I know they have limited availability on Friday but you would think they'd be expecting longer than normal lines due to the fact that it's closing.

 

Most (if not all) years it has been closed on the Fridays. Usually on the Friday only a handful of rides are open. Nothing new, so I wouldn't read into it.

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Conversely, think of how pissed people would be if they suggested it was staying in some form and then got a complete change in vehicle. Probably better (if the floorless conversion is really what theyre doing) to suggest something permanent closure. Now if they were saying it was being replaced rather than closed, THEN we'd have more room to think its getting demo'd for good.

 

And @hey...hey... yep thats the book!

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Is this the one you are talking about. If so, I had/have the same one...good book. Great pick of Mean Streak if I remember correctly.

 

I have a few coaster books from circa 1998 and the early 2000s. And every time I flip through them, I'm like "Ok, this is gone, this is gone, that's gone, this one got RMC'd, this one got relocated, Geauga's gone, Astroworld's gone."

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I would be terribly surprised if CP chose to fully remove mantis. I would expect some new trains along with some new elements possibly and maybe a reprofile of the first drop to fit the typical B&M drop. could they add a zero-g roll somewher to the ride? Definate posibility. Could they add something different sure. Maybe they add something like an old arrow batwing type of inversion somewhere.

 

I would be very surprisedmif CP left the coaster as is and only changed the trains and name...unless they are building something else rather large and this is just a side project, which i highly doubt

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Why does everyone think they'd reprofile the drop? Seems like an unnecessary waste of money. It would be pretty cool if they added a zero G. They could probably remove the midcourse and add one, but they may want to run three trains if it really does go floorless.

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Fun fact: Mantis is going to be the first B&M ever to be closed for good.

 

Or... Mantis could possibly be moving to another park. My bets are on Michigan's Adventure.

 

Fun fact: There is no confirmation that the coaster is being removed from Cedar Point, it could very well be that floorless conversion that many are discussing about.

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