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2) CF would probably try to relocate any rare ride like Iron Dragon like they did with Demon Drop.

 

Knowing Cedar Fair, they'll just throw those rare rides that are near extinction to Dorney Park to "die"!

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I feel bad because this is all I post about lately but no... if a park has the ability to open and there's demand and they choose to stay closed then they're dumb. Period. Be creative and figure it ou

Did they happen to mention how heavy that train is?

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Two Things:

 

1) I'm heading done to the point on 9/20 to get one last ride on (And First) on Mantis. I'm gonna get there probably by noon maybe by opening and am gonna stay till close. I don't want to do any of the Halloweekends stuff and want to know if I should get Fast Lane or if their won't be any lines. Also I wanted to know if Magnum's third train has been put back together and when they stop letting people into lines for the coasters.

 

2) CF would probably try to relocate any rare ride like Iron Dragon like they did with Demon Drop.

 

Mid-September crowds are usually really light, you won't need Fast Lane. Yes, Magnum's 3rd train is running again. And lines for all the major coasters close 8 minutes after parking closing time so in the case of the 20th, 12:08.

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I do have to say CP's operations were awesome, that's not the reason it lost. I mean, the entire front half of the park is pretty much a concrete slab with coasters and a few other rides slapped on it. The back half is fairly nice though.

 

Even though I love MF, Maverick, and GateKeeper, I would still rank SDC, HW, KI, WDW, IoA, and SWO above CP.

 

LMAO!!!

Sorry my opinion doesn't match yours. I'm glad you had to be overly obnoxious about it as well.

 

I love coasters, but I'm more of a theme park kind of guy. I do enjoy amusement parks, and I certainly enjoyed myself at Cedar Point, but the atmosphere at the parks I mentioned is so much nicer than the atmosphere at Cedar Point in my opinion. That being said, I did really enjoy Cedar Point and CoasterMania was AMAZING, so I hope to go back.

 

[/end of rant and (hopefully) this stupid argument)

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What if Cedar Point is just tearing down Mantis for a brand new upgraded floorless? i mean people beg for a Mantis conversion every year couldn't they just be granting everyones wish with a even better upgrade with an even better kick ass layout? Banshee was a state of the art invert with new trains and such couldnt they just get a new state of the art floorless with upgrades like that?

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Even if Mantis were to get converted to a Floorless, it would still just be a "decent" ride. I would rather have them scrap (or relocate) it and replace it with something bigger and better, Cedar Point style.

 

I don't know that a modern B&M design ends up being better than a B&M design from 1994. Bigger? Probably. I enjoy Mantis, and while I'm in the minority on that, the complaints are overwhelmingly aimed at the type of train currently on it's track.

 

This 2015 addition feels like (to me) an in-between major expansion kind of addition. Gatekeeper in 2013, and Mantis facelift in 2015 to hold people over for a bigger coaster project in 2016. Just a guess.

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Even if Mantis were to get converted to a Floorless, it would still just be a "decent" ride. I would rather have them scrap (or relocate) it and replace it with something bigger and better, Cedar Point style.

 

I don't know that a modern B&M design ends up being better than a B&M design from 1994. Bigger? Probably. I enjoy Mantis, and while I'm in the minority on that, the complaints are overwhelmingly aimed at the type of train currently on it's track.

 

This 2015 addition feels like (to me) an in-between major expansion kind of addition. Gatekeeper in 2013, and Mantis facelift in 2015 to hold people over for a bigger coaster project in 2016. Just a guess.

With the biggest coaster coming in 2016 to be from Valleyfair, and it won't be as big as say Banshee or Fury 325, Cedar Point might be in for something in 2016. However, I believe making an existing coaster better can work the magic long enough to hold Cedar Point back for a few more years as Cedar Fair focus on the more neglected parks.
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I do have to say CP's operations were awesome, that's not the reason it lost. I mean, the entire front half of the park is pretty much a concrete slab with coasters and a few other rides slapped on it. The back half is fairly nice though.

 

Even though I love MF, Maverick, and GateKeeper, I would still rank SDC, HW, KI, WDW, IoA, and SWO above CP.

I agree, CP fanboys will get mad we don't rank the park extremely high. But, it is a great park. I just like Kings Island, and Holiday World better. I don't agree with the layout thing you mentioned though. I think the park has a great layout for what it is.

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I don't think Iron Dragon is being removed, but if it were, I doubt it would be relocated to another CF park. Of the 10 Arrow suspended coasters built, none of them have been relocated. All that are no longer operating have been scrapped. That appears to be the fate of most old Arrow coasters of late, perhaps they are not profitable enough to relocate?

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I don't think Iron Dragon is being removed, but if it were, I doubt it would be relocated to another CF park. Of the 10 Arrow suspended coasters built, none of them have been relocated. All that are no longer operating have been scrapped. That appears to be the fate of most old Arrow coasters of late, perhaps they are not profitable enough to relocate?

You never know, it could be marketed as new. I wouldn't mind if it did get moved, just move it to Dorney park or something.

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Once again in regards to Iron Dragon...

 

In 2013 it had more riders than Top Thrill Dragster and Maverick. It's not going anywhere... the only coasters in the park that get more riders than Iron Dragon are Millennium Force, Gatekeeper, Raptor, Gemeni (barely) and maybe Magnum but that number isn't available. People really love this ride. The line is almost always full and overflowing onto the midway.

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While complete removal is not out of the question for Mantis, it is pretty obvious they will not be able to replace it with even an average-sized coaster (or any major attraction for that matter) in time for 2015. There simply isn't enough time with those winters to build anything significant before the 2015 season begins. Combine this with Dinosaurs Alive on its way out, Cedar Point appears to be losing more than improving even if Dinos were not the most popular. Based on the viral marketing and Tony saying there is more to the story, I have become less skeptical on the suggestion of a floorless conversion and more on board with the idea of it actually happening. While not the most popular, Mantis is still a reliable and thrilling ride that is, in my opinion, not worth removing without an immediate replacement of something much better that doesn't even have to be a coaster.

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^The one with the questions? Basically once again, he confirms the removal of Mantis that no one thinks will happen.

The removal wasn't confirmed, he never said it was being taken apart piece by piece.m

He did state Mantis was leaving their lineup forever though.

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