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P. 1989: Wicked Twister's permanent closure announced!

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Fun fact: Mantis is going to be the first B&M ever to be closed for good.

 

Or... Mantis could possibly be moving to another park. My bets are on Michigan's Adventure.

 

Fun fact: There is no confirmation that the coaster is being removed from Cedar Point, it could very well be that floorless conversion that many are discussing about.

 

And, if that does happen, it will still be the first B&M that cannot ever be ridden again. Think about it: B&M built a particular standup roller coaster at Cedar Point. Will you ever be able to ride that ride again?

 

It's sort of a special situation that us coaster nerds should recognise. I mean, they've built over 96 roller coasters since 1991 and this is the first that something is actually happening to? Wikipedia doesn't even have a 'Closed' tab next to the 'Opened Year' tab because it doesn't need it. That's an amazing record of installations!

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Fun fact: Mantis is going to be the first B&M ever to be closed for good.

 

Or... Mantis could possibly be moving to another park. My bets are on Michigan's Adventure.

 

Fun fact: There is no confirmation that the coaster is being removed from Cedar Point, it could very well be that floorless conversion that many are discussing about.

 

And, if that does happen, it will still be the first B&M that cannot ever be ridden again. Think about it: B&M built a particular standup roller coaster at Cedar Point. Will you ever be able to ride that ride again?

 

It's sort of a special situation that us coaster nerds should recognise. I mean, they've built over 96 roller coasters since 1991 and this is the first that something is actually happening to? Wikipedia doesn't even have a 'Closed' tab next to the 'Opened Year' tab because it doesn't need it. That's an amazing record of installations!

 

Does Iron Wolf aka Apocalypse at SFA formerly from SFGrAm ring any bells??

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Fun fact: Mantis is going to be the first B&M ever to be closed for good.

 

Or... Mantis could possibly be moving to another park. My bets are on Michigan's Adventure.

 

Fun fact: There is no confirmation that the coaster is being removed from Cedar Point, it could very well be that floorless conversion that many are discussing about.

 

And, if that does happen, it will still be the first B&M that cannot ever be ridden again. Think about it: B&M built a particular standup roller coaster at Cedar Point. Will you ever be able to ride that ride again?

 

It's sort of a special situation that us coaster nerds should recognise. I mean, they've built over 96 roller coasters since 1991 and this is the first that something is actually happening to? Wikipedia doesn't even have a 'Closed' tab next to the 'Opened Year' tab because it doesn't need it. That's an amazing record of installations!

 

Does Iron Wolf aka Apocalypse at SFA formerly from SFGrAm ring any bells??

 

Can you still ride the B&M standup formerly named Iron Wolf?

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Fun fact: Mantis is going to be the first B&M ever to be closed for good.

 

Or... Mantis could possibly be moving to another park. My bets are on Michigan's Adventure.

 

Fun fact: There is no confirmation that the coaster is being removed from Cedar Point, it could very well be that floorless conversion that many are discussing about.

 

And, if that does happen, it will still be the first B&M that cannot ever be ridden again. Think about it: B&M built a particular standup roller coaster at Cedar Point. Will you ever be able to ride that ride again?

 

It's sort of a special situation that us coaster nerds should recognise. I mean, they've built over 96 roller coasters since 1991 and this is the first that something is actually happening to? Wikipedia doesn't even have a 'Closed' tab next to the 'Opened Year' tab because it doesn't need it. That's an amazing record of installations!

 

Does Iron Wolf aka Apocalypse at SFA formerly from SFGrAm ring any bells??

 

Can you still ride the B&M standup formerly named Iron Wolf?

 

Yeah, but if Mantis gets moved to Dorney and renamed Insect-a-hawk, it's the same situation?!

 

B-T-Dubs.... What year did Mantis open? What page is this? You're welcome. Stay tuned for a similar situation in two pages featuring our friend, Power Tower!

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Fun fact: Mantis is going to be the first B&M ever to be closed for good.

 

Or... Mantis could possibly be moving to another park. My bets are on Michigan's Adventure.

 

Fun fact: There is no confirmation that the coaster is being removed from Cedar Point, it could very well be that floorless conversion that many are discussing about.

 

And, if that does happen, it will still be the first B&M that cannot ever be ridden again. Think about it: B&M built a particular standup roller coaster at Cedar Point. Will you ever be able to ride that ride again?

 

It's sort of a special situation that us coaster nerds should recognise. I mean, they've built over 96 roller coasters since 1991 and this is the first that something is actually happening to? Wikipedia doesn't even have a 'Closed' tab next to the 'Opened Year' tab because it doesn't need it. That's an amazing record of installations!

 

Does Iron Wolf aka Apocalypse at SFA formerly from SFGrAm ring any bells??

 

Can you still ride the B&M standup formerly named Iron Wolf?

 

Yeah, but if Mantis gets moved to Dorney and renamed Insect-a-hawk, it's the same situation?!

 

B-T-Dubs.... What year did Mantis open? What page is this? You're welcome. Stay tuned for a similar situation in two pages featuring our friend, Power Tower!

 

Than 2 pages after that! Well, you know

 

I don't like the idea of the floorless conversion, but if that's the case, I might go out to ride it. However, I wouldn't count it as a new credit though.

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Than 2 pages after that! Well, you know

 

I don't like the idea of the floorless conversion, but if that's the case, I might go out to ride it. However, I wouldn't count it as a new credit though.

 

You should ride coasters for the enjoyment of riding, not for the coaster count

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Than 2 pages after that! Well, you know

 

I don't like the idea of the floorless conversion, but if that's the case, I might go out to ride it. However, I wouldn't count it as a new credit though.

 

You should ride coasters for the enjoyment of riding, not for the coaster count

 

Noted

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I would love to see Mantis get scrapped and CP put something really nice there. Yes the layout is pretty good compared to GateKeeper, Jr. Gemini, Gemini and CCMR, but CP has a lot of coasters with much better layout than that of Mantis.

 

No park deserves such an evil ride. I would really like to see a video of CP tearing a B&M down. Is it weird?

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I have an interesting idea....

 

Mantis becoming the very first B&M Multi-coaster! What I mean is that Mantis will have three separate trains with different features. A sitdown train, a stand-up train, and a floorless train. Three different kind of trains, three different ride experiences.

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I have an interesting idea....

 

Mantis becoming the very first B&M Multi-coaster! What I mean is that Mantis will have three separate trains with different features. A sitdown train, a stand-up train, and a floorless train. Three different kind of trains, three different ride experiences.

There is no difference in ride experience between a sit down and floorless train. No difference at all. And stand up trains are terrible. This isn't an interesting idea. It's a bad one.

 

Plus, the station would be a mess of people wanting to ride on a certain train.

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Plus, the station would be a mess of people wanting to ride on a certain train.

 

Not unless you build a second load/unload platform specifically for the style of ride you wanted and even if you did that there still would be hardly anyone riding the stand-up trains.

Why are we even having a conversation about this? It's a dumb idea that no major park will ever consider.

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I honestly don't think they're going to completely remove it. It's a reliable, expensive, high capacity B&M. They have a perfect marketing opportunity right now to make this a "new" coaster and I'm sure thats exactly what they're doing. My prediction is that we'll get some green paint, a new name, and new trains, floorless or sit down with the new B&M restraints. Less likely, but another idea is that they could run the trains backwards as a gimmick so it gives the park a little more diversity in terms of coaster opportunities. GateKeeper, Raptor, and Corkscrew are sit down looping coasters, so the backwards factor could give it that appeal.

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I honestly don't think they're going to completely remove it. It's a reliable, expensive, high capacity B&M. They have a perfect marketing opportunity right now to make this a "new" coaster and I'm sure thats exactly what they're doing. My prediction is that we'll get some green paint, a new name, and new trains, floorless or sit down with the new B&M restraints. Less likely, but another idea is that they could run the trains backwards as a gimmick so it gives the park a little more diversity in terms of coaster opportunities. GateKeeper, Raptor, and Corkscrew are sit down looping coasters, so the backwards factor could give it that appeal.

 

I hope you mean a backwards sit-down/floorless coaster, because a backwards stand-up would be total hell.

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^If Batman can do backwards trains then almost any of the B&M coasters could do backwards trains. Not saying that they should (I personally didn't care for Batman backwards), or that B&M is willing to develop a train capable of running backwards for other coaster types, just that intensity alone wouldn't prevent it.

 

I find it really amusing to read all the speculation in this thread, as I have a feeling there are only three realistic possibilities for Mantis (most to least likely): 1. New theme, new paint, new trains, and possible minor layout changes, 2. Relocation to another park in the Cedar Fair chain, or 3. The ride is dismantled and put into storage until someone is willing to buy it. The ride is not going to get scrapped; if Cedar Fair doesn't want it someone will, and the ride is not going to receive a major redesign adding several inversions, more elements, and/or launches. Now, I could be 100% wrong, but I wouldn't bet on anything other than options 1, 2, or 3.

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