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Some of the Orlando nerds saw this and suggested the idea of metal detectors based on Universal's use of them. There are times where I wish we could cut off Orlando and send it floating to join the rest of the Caribbean.

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Something in that article I haven't seen yet:

 

The coroner added that he was struck from behind in the head.

 

Ouch. Raptor is easily one of the loudest coasters I have ridden, how do you not hear that thing coming?

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It's being reported by a ton of sources that Raptor will open today (and may even be open already).

 

That would be correct. www.cleveland.com/travel/index.ssf/2015/08/cedar_points_raptor_will_reope.html

 

I believe the park is doing the right thing here. I know that a lot of paperwork has to be filed with the police, insurance, etc, but there are paying customers, some travelling far distances, who come to the park wanting to experience everything. They shouldn't have to miss out because one person cannot follow the rules.

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Gawker's recently run this story as well, but their comment threads actually seem miraculously sane.

 

Most of them. Of course there's the one moron replying to everything complaining that the park really should have barbed wire fences around all the rides *sigh* but just like the moron who got himself killed...there's always one.

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Something in that article I haven't seen yet:

 

The coroner added that he was struck from behind in the head.

 

Ouch. Raptor is easily one of the loudest coasters I have ridden, how do you not hear that thing coming?

 

If he already jumped the fence and retrieved his phone, a small part of me would believe that he was trying to take an up close selfie of the train flying by. Kind of like the guy that tried to take a selfie with a train and got kicked in the head by a conductor.

 

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While reading about the Raptor accident at Cedar Point along with seeing some comments about Universal Studios Orlando, I was reminded of a video of the Jurassic Park ride at IOA from a number of years ago. If you want to watch "stupid" in action, watch the kid in this brief video.

 

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For the people saying that there should be more warnings and precautions, what do you expect them to do, say "If you happen to lose a loose article on the ride, contact one of us." RIGHT AFTER "No loose articles are allowed on this ride." Hmm...

 

Obviously there should have been signs telling people to read the warning signs...

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For the people saying that there should be more warnings and precautions, what do you expect them to do, say "If you happen to lose a loose article on the ride, contact one of us." RIGHT AFTER "No loose articles are allowed on this ride." Hmm...

 

Obviously there should have been signs telling people to read the warning signs...

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Darwin Award Winner! Seriously though, can we remove warning labels and let natural selection take its toll?

 

Yes it's sad, but it could have been completely avoided. As for litigation, I'm sure that the family will go after the fact that he was seen entering the restricted area and then nothing was done.

 

Surely every park will have to install sensors so that if someone does enter the restricted areas, the ride will automatically stop (or go into a safe mode). But then the GP will try to accidentally trip these sensors, so that the ride stops.

 

This is why we can't have nice things here in America...

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While reading about the Raptor accident at Cedar Point along with seeing some comments about Universal Studios Orlando, I was reminded of a video of the Jurassic Park ride at IOA from a number of years ago. If you want to watch "stupid" in action, watch the kid in this brief video.

 

Oh, god. This video. Just an amazing display of idiocracy. I'm actually surprised Universal hasn't tried to have this taken down.

 

This is why we can't have nice things here in America...

QFT!

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I feel like the main issue people have with it is that the park is blatantly and openly saying "We don't trust our guests" and violating their personal freedoms. I think that is an absolutely valid concern and I don't want to take over this topic talking about it. Cell phones on coasters just really suck for all parties and I just think that Metal Detectors and mandatory policies are an option that I'm happy to see explored.

I think it's a good discussion to have, because it could be implemented at other parks.

 

For me, what Universal is communicating is "all our guests are idiots" and while I fully agree there are probably quite a few that are, I personally take offense to that. Why am *I* getting punished because of someone else's stupidity? I also don't agree with having to put *EVERY DAMN THING* in a locker. I saw someone padded down last time at Rip Ride Rockit and they made them put their lap balm in a locker. REALLY!?!?!? C'mon.

 

This is why I prefer to do my riding on the other side of I-4. When I can go on rides like Tower of Terror or Rock N' Roller Coaster and they tell you "Take all your loose items with you" and I'm holding a backpack on a launching, looping roller coaster, that tells me that either Disney is just getting a much, MUCH better clientele than Universal, or something is seriously wrong with their operations.

 

I like Universal, don't get me wrong, but I'm not an idiot, and I don't like being treated like one at their parks.

 

And if parks like Cedar Point started to enforce these same kinds of rules, too, and added metal detectors, I'd stop riding their coasters also. I don't mind putting a bag or something in a locker, but having to empty my pockets, be padded down, and go through a metal detector to go on a roller coaster? Nope. I draw the line right there.

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I like Universal, don't get me wrong, but I'm not an idiot, and I don't like being treated like one at their parks.

 

And if parks like Cedar Point started to enforce these same kinds of rules, too, and added metal detectors, I'd stop riding their coasters also. I don't mind putting a bag or something in a fluffy, fluffy bunny filled with medicine and goo, but having to empty my pockets, be padded down, and go through a metal detector to go on a roller coaster? Nope. I draw the line right there.

 

THIS A THOUSAND TIMES THIS. I don't care what the rationale is - "people had knives!" Man, it seems like there's a bigger issue there, huh? Maybe they should handle that in a different manner than treating everyone going on roller coasters as criminals? Sure seems to me like if knives were a problem there before, they'll probably be a problem somewhere else that doesn't have them in your parks soon after.

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I think it's a good discussion to have, because it could be implemented at other parks.

 

For me, what Universal is communicating is "all our guests are idiots" and while I fully agree there are probably quite a few that are, I personally take offense to that. Why am *I* getting punished because of someone else's stupidity? I also don't agree with having to put *EVERY DAMN THING* in a fluffy, fluffy bunny filled with medicine and goo. I saw someone padded down last time at Rip Ride Rockit and they made them put their lap balm in a fluffy, fluffy bunny filled with medicine and goo. REALLY!?!?!? C'mon.

 

This is why I prefer to do my riding on the other side of I-4. When I can go on rides like Tower of Terror or Rock N' Roller Coaster and they tell you "Take all your loose items with you" and I'm holding a backpack on a launching, looping roller coaster, that tells me that either Disney is just getting a much, MUCH better clientele than Universal, or something is seriously wrong with their operations.

 

I like Universal, don't get me wrong, but I'm not an idiot, and I don't like being treated like one at their parks.

 

And if parks like Cedar Point started to enforce these same kinds of rules, too, and added metal detectors, I'd stop riding their coasters also. I don't mind putting a bag or something in a fluffy, fluffy bunny filled with medicine and goo, but having to empty my pockets, be padded down, and go through a metal detector to go on a roller coaster? Nope. I draw the line right there.

 

I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said, Robb. The unfortunate part of our society is that it only takes 1 jacka$$ to f*ck it up for everyone.

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Having been to Universal myself a couple of months ago I definitely agree that metal detectors does take away from the pleasure of going on the rides.

It's flat-out just an inconvenience. It's bad enough to have to put stuff in a locker, and we are at least used to that by now, but seriously, I want my phone with me. And no, not to be an idiot to use the phone on a ride, but to simply pass the time in line while I'm waiting. And if I can't do that? I'm not riding. Period. That goes for Universal or ANY park.

 

I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said, Robb. The unfortunate part of our society is that it only takes 1 jacka$$ to f*ck it up for everyone.

It shouldn't be that way. I understand enforcing your loose articles policy, but there is a limit. Lockers and bins on the platform. I get that. Metal detectors and being padded down? And being told to go back to the locker because there is Chapstick in your pocket? Nope! Not riding!

 

I realize it's a personal choice, but it's a choice I'm gonna make.

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Actually, here's an idea - instead of installing metal detectors, why isn't there security hanging out in the onride photo booth, and every person they see with their cell phone out on the ride, escort them out of the park and trespass them from ever coming back.

 

I personally think the biggest issue here why people think they can do whatever they want on rides is because there isn't enough repercussion for when someone does something against the rules.

 

Line jumping? Kick them out of the park!

Using their cell phone or camera on ride? Kick them out of the park!

Smoking in line? Kick them out of the park!

 

PUNISH THE IDIOTS!!! DON'T PUNISH THE REST OF US!!!

 

That is how the world should be working.

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