ilrider Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 ^Pretty amazing it was not worse with the train going through. Kudos to B&M I guess. I have never see this on a B&M coaster before. Obviously a lot of force through there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tndank Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Some pics from last week show the crack starting. Seems a guest spotted this first and alerted the park. That is a bit crazy. This has the potential to be somewhat big. Wonder if any other hypers will be closed a bit for extra inspections this weekend. Wonder how many maint guys have an early call tomorrow to inspect supports. Lots of questions here that need to be resolved. Crazy it got this bad and seems to have completely severed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeggedSole Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Here's a YouTube version of the previously mentioned video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grsupercity Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 I wonder if that section of track will get replaced as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacherkim Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Holy crap. On Fri 6/23 Fury was on morning and evening ert for Con and we were marathoning it until midnight and doing infield walks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasternut Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Glad I got to ride it last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotanicalStig Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Love how someone saw this and thought "quick! Get a video!" Glad someone told the park before something bad happened. Amazing that the track held up to that kind of stress WITHOUT SUPPORT. B&M has a great reputation for a reason, they know they're doing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarFlags Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Not to be an armchair engineer here, but the more I've looked at this, it strikes me as odd... The supports of that turn aren't braced against the force of the vehicle, they're parallel to the force. You would expect the supported to be in opposition to the direction of the force to brace against it. Compare it to the turn going into the Treble Clef. But instead, they're positioned in a way where the force of the vehicle creates tensile force right at that joint area, where we would normally expect to see compression. Obviously, a real engineer checked this and it passed the calculations, but clearly something about this element didn't work out correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoreyMan Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 16 hours ago, CedarFlags said: Not to be an armchair engineer here, but the more I've looked at this, it strikes me as odd... The supports of that turn aren't braced against the force of the vehicle, they're parallel to the force. You would expect the supported to be in opposition to the direction of the force to brace against it. Compare it to the turn going into the Treble Clef. But instead, they're positioned in a way where the force of the vehicle creates tensile force right at that joint area, where we would normally expect to see compression. Obviously, a real engineer checked this and it passed the calculations, but clearly something about this element didn't work out correctly. I asked the same exact question to a friend who's an engineer and got this response: "You have three different reactions going on. Compression from the cars coming towards the support, tension from the cars going away, and rotation because the support is so high off the ground. So you add all of them together and you can figure out the resulting force and the direction it's going in, and the support goes opposite of that." He went on to say "The load isn't being transferred to the support. That could be because the support is too stiff or the material isn't strong enough, or they miscalculated the resultant force...if they pick steel with too little carbon in it it becomes brittle and can break like that. Or sometimes the manufacturer adds too much carbon"..."That's something that happens from the compression/decompression of the cars coming across, and the crack comes downward in the direction of the force so that would indicate the load isn't properly transferring." This one's out of my ball park - I know nothing about engineering - hopefully they'll figure it out. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invertalon Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 On 7/1/2023 at 7:12 PM, CedarFlags said: The supports of that turn aren't braced against the force of the vehicle, they're parallel to the force. You would expect the supported to be in opposition to the direction of the force to brace against it. Compare it to the turn going into the Treble Clef. But instead, they're positioned in a way where the force of the vehicle creates tensile force right at that joint area, where we would normally expect to see compression. Obviously, a real engineer checked this and it passed the calculations, but clearly something about this element didn't work out correctly. In a nutshell, it does not matter which way the lateral support goes... It either puts that lateral column in compression or tension depending on which direction and is typically chosen based on space considerations. Nothing odd at all here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeykaise Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 It's just scary seeing how much the top part above the crack moved to the right as a train went by. It was a good couple of inches, this could have been really bad but am glad it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tndank Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Love the communication here and how open they are with what has to be done. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillseeker4552 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 I greatly appreciate the transparency. Reminds me of Jeffrey over at SFFT and how transparent he is about things like this at that park. If only SFGAdv did the same for El Toro...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricklap77 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Nice to know B&M is already making a new support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prozach626 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 On 7/1/2023 at 12:12 PM, teacherkim said: Holy crap. On Fri 6/23 Fury was on morning and evening ert for Con and we were marathoning it until midnight and doing infield walks. Fury is worth the risk. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacherkim Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 On 7/8/2023 at 6:08 AM, prozach626 said: Fury is worth the risk. We agree which is why we were marathoning it til midnight. My husband doesn't get it, he would have gone back to the hotel several hours before for drink, a movie and bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasternut Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 The new B&M support is being installed this afternoon. That was easy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tndank Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Man, this thing might be open in a week. Impressive work happening there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasternut Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 ^ That's one of many reasons why I'm a B&M fanboy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tndank Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 They were testing Fury around midnight last night. No idea how long they were running it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarFlags Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 I'm honestly SHOCKED at how quickly is moving. I expected the ride the be down for the rest of the season, but at this rate we'll probably get it back by early August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastersandhockey Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 My guess is Carowinds and B&M are ready to roll. It's probably mostly waiting on the "third party"/state inspectors to make their way to the park and give it their all clear. I'm so happy with how Carowinds has handled this. From the press releases to the actual replacement. A+ grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haymaker Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Second issue found on Fury https://www.foxnews.com/us/second-structural-issue-discovered-carowinds-roller-coaster-massive-crack-forces-ride-shut-down 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyUD06 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Here's a better link that doesn't send traffic to a "news" organization dead set on establishing a theocracy in the US: https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/28/us/carowinds-north-carolina-roller-coaster-crack/index.html 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tndank Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Fury is testing today with 2 trains. That's interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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