Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

[thepoint4life23]

I guess its behind some building in Mansfield Ohio 

[tndank]

Hole behind Dragster now.  People seem to think it may be the beginning of the spike.

 

[coasterbill]

I thought that this theory was dumb a few months ago. I was wrong. It lines up perfectly.

(I don't know the photo source. If you do, let me know and I'll update the post)

[tndank]

I thought the idea was crazy as well but I've come around.  Looking forward to seeing the final plans and all the details.

 

[grsupercity]

A couple drone videos online have some really good pics and videos. It is a very large footer. The clearance under iron dragon seems very tight when the track gets put back on. 

[thepoint4life23]

Photo i think came from Peninsula of Thrills

 

 

[Haymaker]

2 hours ago, thepoint4life23 said:

I guess its behind some building in Mansfield Ohio 

Adena Construction, the company that built it

[michaellynn4]

2 hours ago, coasterbill said:

I thought that this theory was dumb a few months ago. I was wrong. It lines up perfectly.

(I don't know the photo source. If you do, let me know and I'll update the post)

So, uh... for us laymen coaster nerds who haven't really been following along with this much -- what am I supposed to be looking at here? What is this "spike"?

[_s3_]

The speculation has been a reverse spike behind the station and a swing launch. The photo posted shows it at the very top (best angle to show how inline it is with the old launch). Here is a closer look at the pilings and cofferdam built in the disassembled Iron Dragon area. Very curious to see how this plays out.

 

[Hilltopper39]

3 hours ago, grsupercity said:

A couple drone videos online have some really good pics and videos. It is a very large footer. The clearance under iron dragon seems very tight when the track gets put back on. 

Could always go over the Iron Dragon track instead of under it. I feel like I've seen some fan speculation videos/renderings out there somewhere that showed some possibilities for that. 

[coasterbill]

I absolutely expect it to go over Iron Dragon.

I honestly expect enthusiasts to mostly hate this and complain about the weaker launch and how much better it used to be or whatever and I'm so here for it.

[thepoint4life23]

People have already said I didn't like wicked twister so I wont like this!

 

I think this will be awesome 

[prozach626]

On 3/28/2023 at 1:37 AM, Haymaker said:

Apparently someone on Twitter found Maverick's heartline roll rotting away "in the woods" (really a backlot of a construction contractor)

 

 

Someone finds this every couple years.

 

  

20 hours ago, michaellynn4 said:

What is this "spike"?

It's an element specifically designed to increase capacity and reliability...

[AmyUD06]

Who loves reading Halloween trip reports in April?  I know I love posting them haha.

Go check it out!

[JT325]

On 3/29/2023 at 7:14 AM, prozach626 said:

Someone finds this every couple years.

It's an element specifically designed to increase capacity and reliability...

Does the spike really do that?  Or just sarcasm?  Can't tell   Seems more controls and track switching would complicate the operation.

[prozach626]

yes.             ...

[RaceBoarder]

Finally life is gonna allow me to get away Cedar Point for a couple of days.  It appears that some things have changed in the theme park world the last few years, ha ha....  Happy to be back at this, but yea, lol...

 

Targeting June 21-22 for our park days.  Arrive late evening on the 20th and driving back to Chicago after a park day on the 22.  Looking at Breakers.

Some stuff I'm seeing as different this go around:

- Early Entry is basically dead.  Just seems to be GateKeeper, some generic flats, and some kiddie rides.  Is Gatekeeper worth the trouble in this hour?   Hit it and then camp out in line for something to open at 10am?

- With just Gate Keeper open for Early Entry, it seems like it's simplest to take a walk along the lake and use the WindSeeker gate. Seems like the Running of the Morons to SV still takes place from the Magnum gate.

- It seems likely that we will see rides closing before 10pm.   Just see how things play out the couple of weeks beforehand and make a play based on those results?

- First time staying on property at CP.  I assume it's fairly simple to navigate back to Breakers for parking.   I assume we'll just park back there for the 2.5 days we're around the property.

- Can we leave the property early in the AM to find breakfast and then come back in a reasonable amount of time?   Does the Perkins have "normal" prices or is breakfast gonna cost $25+?

- With the staffing issues, is Fast Lane+ still a simple purchase or is this something we'll have to seek out an open vendor at 10am?

- After reading back through the thread, I'm a bit confused as to what to expect with the SV Lockers.   The process seems to be FL+ queue ---> Metal Detector ----> Locker Visit ----> Line into Station   Also, with this mess, I keep a Blood Glucose monitor on my person.   I can throw it in a locker if absolutely needed, but being separated from the transmitter for an extended period of time can be problematic.   Am I gonna have to fight with an attendant about keeping this is a zippered pocket for the ride?  I will gladly dump my phone and wallet.   But the device losing signal several times over the course of our 48 hours can possibly cause issues.

[prozach626]

The FL+ wait for Steel Vengeance for us was about 25-30 minutes. Ask the ride attendants out front about the glucose monitor. The lockers are not as complicated of a process as people make it out to be. We had zero issues.

Fast Lane is unchanged. You're already going to be spending a lot of money going to the park. You may as well spend more and spring for it. It makes our Breakers days seem so much more relaxing when we know we don't have to constantly wait in line or try to jam as much in as possible.

FL+ at the park is great, but Maverick can get really backed up. If you see the FL+ line backed out to the exit, which is common, come back later. It gets a lot less busy closer to closing time. Same with other FL+ lines. Sometimes you will see them really long, but then you come back an hour later and they're non existent or drastically shorter.

We've always had luck with weekday crowds in June. Enjoy your trip.

[RaceBoarder]

Going without FL+ isn't a consideration here unless it's a day where we arrive and there are only 8 of us going into the park at 9am.

 

Appreciate the tip on Maverick.  We don't go beyond a general gameplan so stopping back there throughout the day works just fine.

[bert425]

Breakers is SUPER easy to get to. . . they will direct you past the booths, around the park, and thru the small booth at Breaker's main entrance into the lot back there and you won't need to move your car at all.

The Perkins has a wide variety of options, and is priced just as a "regular" Perkins. . . . (so is the TGI Fridays there by the way).    I wouldn't leave my spot to go eat and then deal with coming back in for opening, but just be aware that Perkins in the morning will have a line so plan accordingly.   Hell. . what I'd do?   get up, go ride Gatekeeper - and whatever else you want to ride - then walk back to Breakers for breakfast at Perkins . . . which will be WAY less busy once early entry hours start.


Rooms in Breakers DO have mini fridges. . . what I do is make a trip to the CVS in town and stock up on snacks in the room. . . helps with the plan above to eat a snack to hold you over until a proper breakfast

 

 

[RaceBoarder]

5 hours ago, bert425 said:

Breakers is SUPER easy to get to. . . they will direct you past the booths, around the park, and thru the small booth at Breaker's main entrance into the lot back there and you won't need to move your car at all.

The Perkins has a wide variety of options, and is priced just as a "regular" Perkins. . . . (so is the TGI Fridays there by the way).    I wouldn't leave my spot to go eat and then deal with coming back in for opening, but just be aware that Perkins in the morning will have a line so plan accordingly.   Hell. . what I'd do?   get up, go ride Gatekeeper - and whatever else you want to ride - then walk back to Breakers for breakfast at Perkins . . . which will be WAY less busy once early entry hours start.


Rooms in Breakers DO have mini fridges. . . what I do is make a trip to the CVS in town and stock up on snacks in the room. . . helps with the plan above to eat a snack to hold you over until a proper breakfast

 

 

Despite not having done this, your CVS idea is one of the selling points here.   

Basically being able to pop in/out of the room during the visit is a key point.  Just being able to take 30-40 minutes to head back to the room, use a clean bathroom, and have a cold beverage while enjoying some snacks  is much more enjoyable than your usual $15-20 theme park meal that probably takes just as long to get.  It is something that I didn't realize I needed till TPR pointed it out, lol.

[SharkTums]

^Having a room at Breakers and FastLane Plus really changes how you can do CP! It makes it much more tolerable! 

[teacherkim]

 

On 4/27/2023 at 10:19 AM, RaceBoarder said:

Finally life is gonna allow me to get away Cedar Point for a couple of days.  It appears that some things have changed in the theme park world the last few years, ha ha....  Happy to be back at this, but yea, lol...

 

Targeting June 21-22 for our park days.  Arrive late evening on the 20th and driving back to Chicago after a park day on the 22.  Looking at Breakers.

Some stuff I'm seeing as different this go around:

- Early Entry is basically dead.  Just seems to be GateKeeper, some generic flats, and some kiddie rides.  Is Gatekeeper worth the trouble in this hour?   Hit it and then camp out in line for something to open at 10am?

- With just Gate Keeper open for Early Entry, it seems like it's simplest to take a walk along the lake and use the WindSeeker gate. Seems like the Running of the Morons to SV still takes place from the Magnum gate.

- It seems likely that we will see rides closing before 10pm.   Just see how things play out the couple of weeks beforehand and make a play based on those results?

- First time staying on property at CP.  I assume it's fairly simple to navigate back to Breakers for parking.   I assume we'll just park back there for the 2.5 days we're around the property.

- Can we leave the property early in the AM to find breakfast and then come back in a reasonable amount of time?   Does the Perkins have "normal" prices or is breakfast gonna cost $25+?

- With the staffing issues, is Fast Lane+ still a simple purchase or is this something we'll have to seek out an open vendor at 10am?

- After reading back through the thread, I'm a bit confused as to what to expect with the SV Lockers.   The process seems to be FL+ queue ---> Metal Detector ----> Locker Visit ----> Line into Station   Also, with this mess, I keep a Blood Glucose monitor on my person.   I can throw it in a locker if absolutely needed, but being separated from the transmitter for an extended period of time can be problematic.   Am I gonna have to fight with an attendant about keeping this is a zippered pocket for the ride?  I will gladly dump my phone and wallet.   But the device losing signal several times over the course of our 48 hours can possibly cause issues.

To echo the others, SV lockers aren't complicated just kind of annoying, you hit lockers first then the metal detector. Do NOT leave the peninsula once you get parked. One of the great perks of staying there is not having to drive back and forth across that damn causeway. In addition to Perkins for a sit down breakfast they also have a take away counter at the front of the restaurant where you can get a few things like muffins and pastries plus there is Starbucks for a light breakfast. Sometimes with FL+ we just grab a muffin/scone/whatever go grab early entry stuff, (now that they've taken anything of interest off of it I would just use early entry to line up for something really good) and then eat an early lunch when a lot of people are running around trying to get as much in the first few hours as they can. 

You should be able to buy your FL+ at the Breakers check in counter in the lobby. Like Bert said there will be a specific lane when you drive in for people staying at the hotel with a check in toll booth and then another check point right before the parking lot, although that one is not always staffed if you get there very late. Sometimes they do ask for a reservation # so you might want to have that handy.

Even if you go right to Gatekeeper for early entry I don't know that walking to the Windseeker gate will be any faster, unless you just prefer the lake view in the morning.  Everyone that gets early entry as a pass perk that is not at the hotel will be going in there and the SV people will all go immediately to the right upon entering at the Magnum gate and they usually hold everyone up a bit at a rope drop just past Gemini so the running happens after that.

[prozach626]

We had no room for snacks. Our fridge was full of beer and water. 50/50.

[coastersandhockey]

On 4/27/2023 at 11:19 AM, RaceBoarder said:

Finally life is gonna allow me to get away Cedar Point for a couple of days.  It appears that some things have changed in the theme park world the last few years, ha ha....  Happy to be back at this, but yea, lol...

 

Targeting June 21-22 for our park days.  Arrive late evening on the 20th and driving back to Chicago after a park day on the 22.  Looking at Breakers.

Some stuff I'm seeing as different this go around:

- Early Entry is basically dead.  Just seems to be GateKeeper, some generic flats, and some kiddie rides.  Is Gatekeeper worth the trouble in this hour?   Hit it and then camp out in line for something to open at 10am?

- With just Gate Keeper open for Early Entry, it seems like it's simplest to take a walk along the lake and use the WindSeeker gate. Seems like the Running of the Morons to SV still takes place from the Magnum gate.

- It seems likely that we will see rides closing before 10pm.   Just see how things play out the couple of weeks beforehand and make a play based on those results?

- First time staying on property at CP.  I assume it's fairly simple to navigate back to Breakers for parking.   I assume we'll just park back there for the 2.5 days we're around the property.

- Can we leave the property early in the AM to find breakfast and then come back in a reasonable amount of time?   Does the Perkins have "normal" prices or is breakfast gonna cost $25+?

- With the staffing issues, is Fast Lane+ still a simple purchase or is this something we'll have to seek out an open vendor at 10am?

- After reading back through the thread, I'm a bit confused as to what to expect with the SV Lockers.   The process seems to be FL+ queue ---> Metal Detector ----> Locker Visit ----> Line into Station   Also, with this mess, I keep a Blood Glucose monitor on my person.   I can throw it in a locker if absolutely needed, but being separated from the transmitter for an extended period of time can be problematic.   Am I gonna have to fight with an attendant about keeping this is a zippered pocket for the ride?  I will gladly dump my phone and wallet.   But the device losing signal several times over the course of our 48 hours can possibly cause issues.

-I would hit GK and (Wild Mouse if you are interested) and then camp at your favorite ride. Seems this will be a super easy way of getting on MIllennium and Maverick. I am willing to bet there will still be a solid contingent of people who go wait at SV right at 9am though. 

-Last season the park got back to closing rides at park closing time. No more closing rides 30 minutes before closing if there is a 30 minute wait. However I would not expect them to keep lines open late like they used to in the past. Everything should close on at 10pm (or whatever time closing is) on the dot.

-Yep exactly that. I stayed there for my first time during opening weekend of haunt last year and didn't touch my car once. It was nice.

-I would avoid leaving the property. Perkins is reasonable if not the same price as their other locations. As others have said there is also a walk up counter for grab and go type stuff. There is also a starbucks inside of Breakers and one at the front of the park that I believe both serve all the typical Starbucks breakfast food.

-Fastlane is available at a number of giftshops in the park. The ones that come to mind are the main giftshop at the front of the park, "Point Plaza" and also the General Store that you pass approaching Maverick. I believe you can also redeem at all ticket booths at any entrance to the park. There is also a fastlane specific walkup stand to the right immediately as you come through the main entrance. 

-Lockers are easier than you've been led to believe. It really is a seemless process. Especially mid season when the ride ops have good control of the situation down there. But yes you'll wait in FL+ queue, drop stuff in lockers, go through metal detectors, wait about 10 minutes if not less, then get on the ride.

-I'm not sure about your monitor. You might be safer getting an ADA pass for this situation specifically. Go to Guest Services and explain your situation and they will take care of you accordingly. If I had to guess, they'll give you a pass in which a member of your group waits in the FL+ line and you wait near the ride exit. When the rest of your group makes it into the station, you go up the exit and you will drop your monitor in a ADA pass specific loose article bin, ride immediately with your group, then get your monitor back right away. If you are alone, they will give you a pass where you go to a ride, get immeidate boarding, and then are given a wait time in accordance with the ride you rode that will signify the next time you may ride a ride using the ADA pass. So for example, you go ride SV right at 10am and it has a 30 minute wait already. You will get on SV right at 10am with ADA pass, and then they will write on your pass 10:30am. So then at 10:30am you can go to any other ride at get immediate boarding and then get another wait time and the cycle continues. All in all, I seriously doubt they'll allow you to take your monitor on the ride, but the ADA pass will allow you to spend minimal time without it. 

 

Hope all this helped!