MrSum1_55 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Canyon Blaster is...interesting. It is not as bad as the other Arrow loopers, and it thankfully does not have that death transition into the Corkscrews that the others do. It is also far more intense than the other Arrow loopers. I was surprised by how strong the G’s in the loops are. Overall, I would say Canyon Blaster is one of my favorite Arrows, and my second favorite Arrow looper after Tennessee Tornado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Are those the same type trains that went on Drachen Fire? They look the same. Sort of interesting some other newer Arrows didn't get those trains (like Tennessee Tornado), but maybe that's because Drachen's reception wasn't too positive. Tennessee Tornado did get the new-generation train design, but I believe that they went with the old-style blocky body for thematic purposes. There are some giveaways, such as the taller headrests. From what I understand, Arrow built five coasters with the new-generation train. I believe that Tennessee Tornado and the roller coaster at Al-Sha'ab in Kuwait have the new chassis with the old-style body; Drachen Fire and Canyon Blaster had / have the new chassis and new-style body. The fifth is the Hot Wheels SideWinder at Dreamworld in Australia. When it was the Cyclone there and the Big Dipper in its previous location, it had the new chassis / new body, but a few seasons ago they put the new Vekoma trains on it. I would assume that the Adventuredome bought the old trains to use for spare parts. Obviously, Arrow started using a new track rail / spine / tie design in the mid-90s too. Al-Sha'ab's coaster and Tennessee Tornado have it, and Road Runner Express at Fiesta Texas has it as well. Those, and X at Six Flags Magic Mountain, were the only "big" coasters that Arrow built with the newer designs before they went down the toilet for the last time. It kind of makes me wonder about the kinds of coasters we'd be seeing from Arrow today if A) they were still around and B) Schilke was still doing work for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_s Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 ^^-- best I can tell from videos, the restraints are padded, unlike Drachen Fire's. I never understood why they didn't do something about them, one good bang and it was obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgeboy Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Canyon blaster is only slightly less rough than a typical arrow looper. It’s fun for what it is, but it’s still an arrow looper with newer trains. I personally think it deserves more credit than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I have a trip report on the way but I liked Canyon Blaster a lot. It's the best coaster in Vegas in my opinion. I slightly prefer it to El Loco. It's super intense, the cheesy tunnel is cool. Yeah it throws you around once or twice, but I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcoaster Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I have a trip report on the way but I liked Canyon Blaster a lot. It's the best coaster in Vegas in my opinion. I slightly prefer it to El Loco. It's super intense, the cheesy tunnel is cool. Yeah it throws you around once or twice, but I like it. Canyon Blasteer is an awesome little coaster. The positive g’s on the loops kick arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11slataus Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Are those the same type trains that went on Drachen Fire? They look the same. Sort of interesting some other newer Arrows didn't get those trains (like Tennessee Tornado), but maybe that's because Drachen's reception wasn't too positive. Tennessee Tornado did get the new-generation train design, but I believe that they went with the old-style blocky body for thematic purposes. There are some giveaways, such as the taller headrests. From what I understand, Arrow built five coasters with the new-generation train. I believe that Tennessee Tornado and the roller coaster at Al-Sha'ab in Kuwait have the new chassis with the old-style body; Drachen Fire and Canyon Blaster had / have the new chassis and new-style body. The fifth is the Hot Wheels SideWinder at Dreamworld in Australia. When it was the Cyclone there and the Big Dipper in its previous location, it had the new chassis / new body, but a few seasons ago they put the new Vekoma trains on it. I would assume that the Adventuredome bought the old trains to use for spare parts. Obviously, Arrow started using a new track rail / spine / tie design in the mid-90s too. Al-Sha'ab's coaster and Tennessee Tornado have it, and Road Runner Express at Fiesta Texas has it as well. Those, and X at Six Flags Magic Mountain, were the only "big" coasters that Arrow built with the newer designs before they went down the toilet for the last time. It kind of makes me wonder about the kinds of coasters we'd be seeing from Arrow today if A) they were still around and B) Schilke was still doing work for them. That’s very cool! I never noticed the other new-train ones. I didn’t think there were even 5! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking86 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Are those the same type trains that went on Drachen Fire? They look the same. Sort of interesting some other newer Arrows didn't get those trains (like Tennessee Tornado), but maybe that's because Drachen's reception wasn't too positive. Tennessee Tornado did get the new-generation train design, but I believe that they went with the old-style blocky body for thematic purposes. There are some giveaways, such as the taller headrests. From what I understand, Arrow built five coasters with the new-generation train. I believe that Tennessee Tornado and the roller coaster at Al-Sha'ab in Kuwait have the new chassis with the old-style body; Drachen Fire and Canyon Blaster had / have the new chassis and new-style body. The fifth is the Hot Wheels SideWinder at Dreamworld in Australia. When it was the Cyclone there and the Big Dipper in its previous location, it had the new chassis / new body, but a few seasons ago they put the new Vekoma trains on it. I would assume that the Adventuredome bought the old trains to use for spare parts. Obviously, Arrow started using a new track rail / spine / tie design in the mid-90s too. Al-Sha'ab's coaster and Tennessee Tornado have it, and Road Runner Express at Fiesta Texas has it as well. Those, and X at Six Flags Magic Mountain, were the only "big" coasters that Arrow built with the newer designs before they went down the toilet for the last time. It kind of makes me wonder about the kinds of coasters we'd be seeing from Arrow today if A) they were still around and B) Schilke was still doing work for them. Since you mentioned it, I must say that I find Roller Coaster @ Al-Sha'ab Leisure Park a very intriguing ride. At first glance it looks like your standard Arrow loop/corkscrew coaster, but it's definitely not. Not only does it have the newer track style, but the track shaping appears to be a lot more advanced and smooth compared to the rides Arrow built just a few years earlier. I wonder how well it rides... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 So, as I was going through the coaster poll adding coasters from Japan, I discovered that the Corkscrew at Toshimaen in the Tokyo area (one of Arrow's older coasters) also received a second-gen Arrow train sometime during or before 1999. Pretty cool! https://rcdb.com/1204.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF15 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Not completely Adventuredome related, but does anyone know why Desperado at Buffalo Bill's is listed as "closed until further notice" on their website? I'm going to Las Vegas in a few weeks and would like to take a ride on Desperado if I can get the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Stratosphere Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 ^ Desperado has a status of SBNO since December. Haven't heard as to why yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRice92 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 ^ & ^^ Buffalo Bills is closed for a renovation currently. I was in Las Vegas at the very beginning of this past December and the website still said the coaster would be open. My friends & I drove out there to ride and that’s when we found out the whole resort and casino is closed for now. They must not have an estimated time for completion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 ^^If you read some recent reviews of Buffalo Bills you'll see that it sounds pretty bad over there. Entire complex closed, hotel closed, shops closed, restaurants closed, all different combinations of this on different days. People even showed up with reservations only to find a sign that said "go across the street to one of our other properties and we'll help you there"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 ...People even showed up with reservations only to find a sign that said "go across the street to one of our other properties and we'll help you there"! Yikes! That's REALLY not a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmeister Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I was at Buffalo Bill's a couple of years ago and it was in really bad shape. While Desperado was a decent ride in it's early days it was one of the roughest rides I've ever had on a coaster on this last visit. It's a shame because Buffalo Bill's has such a unique atmosphere when it's run properly. I think when it was run by a company called Terrible's the name was appropriate because all of the Primm Valley Resorts are absolutely terrible. I think the only reason Desperado won't be the first defunct Arrow hyper (I'm not counting Steel Phantom) is because Titan at Space World barely beat it to closing first. I wouldn't be surprised if Desperado is closed for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgeboy Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 According to news reports dated around the end of November, the entire resort closed for renovations (we saw it ourselves, as we were in Vegas just before then and saw it all fenced off), but was scheduled to reopen Christmas Eve of last year. Their website says they're currently taking reservations... can anyone else confirm? Or know of the status of the rides? Update: just saw on their website that "all amusement rides are closed until further notice". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterlvr Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 ^ & ^^ Buffalo Bills is closed for a renovation currently. I was in Las Vegas at the very beginning of this past December and the website still said the coaster would be open. My friends & I drove out there to ride and that’s when we found out the whole resort and casino is closed for now. They must not have an estimated time for completion. Buffalo Bills was open in January. I stopped by just to see if it was open, and look around. It was dead inside, but also a weekday. Arcade was closed but all lit up. I think at least one fast food place was open near the Desperado. Not sure what they are renovating, i guess the rooms. the casino looked like i had remembered the last time i was in there. I usually never stop in but was taking my sweet time driving into vegas. they still have the same exact shirt from when it was new. i probably owned around 5 of these 20 years ago. lol btw, sorry, i also have no information of when it might be open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRice92 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Buffalo Bills was open in January. I stopped by just to see if it was open, and look around. It was dead inside, but also a weekday. Arcade was closed but all lit up. I think at least one fast food place was open near the Desperado. Not sure what they are renovating, i guess the rooms. the casino looked like i had remembered the last time i was in there. I usually never stop in but was taking my sweet time driving into vegas. Okay gotcha, sad to hear the resort is open again but the coaster is not. The day of my visit was Sunday, December 3rd, I've been out of the loop since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterlvr Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Buffalo Bills was open in January. I stopped by just to see if it was open, and look around. It was dead inside, but also a weekday. Arcade was closed but all lit up. I think at least one fast food place was open near the Desperado. Not sure what they are renovating, i guess the rooms. the casino looked like i had remembered the last time i was in there. I usually never stop in but was taking my sweet time driving into vegas. Okay gotcha, sad to hear the resort is open again but the coaster is not. The day of my visit was Sunday, December 3rd, I've been out of the loop since then. i stop there to go to the shopping outlets. i knew it had been closed, but was driving by and saw cars, so decided to go see if it was open. everything looked normal. so i'm not sure how long it had been open when i went. might have been the day before for all i know. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSum1_55 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I know the "I survived____" on a coaster T-shirt is a cliche, but on Desperado it is actually an accomplishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterlvr Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I know the "I survived____" on a coaster T-shirt is a cliche, but on Desperado it is actually an accomplishment. LOL, very true. well, i haven't ridden it since it's gotten bad. long time ago, before you were born, it was pretty fun and smooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollercoaster Rider Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I know the "I survived____" on a coaster T-shirt is a cliche, but on Desperado it is actually an accomplishment. LOL, very true. well, i haven't ridden it since it's gotten bad. long time ago, before you were born, it was pretty fun and smooth. I'm probably spoiled but when I rode Big One or Desperado, I wondered how great it would be if they had Phantom's Revenge style restraints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF15 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Just got back from a weekend trip to Las Vegas and had a great time visiting the Adventuredome and the other area attractions for the first time. The Adventuredome was overall very good for an indoor park. It’s quite impressive how they were able to fit all of those rides and attractions into a five-acre space. I enjoyed both of the park’s roller coasters, particularly El Loco. This ride really impressed me with how intense it was with its great ejector air, funky outward banking, and lengthy hangtime. Favorite coaster of the trip for sure, and I wish more smaller parks would build coasters like El Loco. Canyon Blaster was very good for an Arrow looper, probably my second favorite of this kind behind Tennessee Tornado. Loops were fun, the double corkscrew isn’t too jarring, and the helix had some nice force to it. As for flats, I rode Choas, Slighshot, Disk’O, and Inverter, the first three were all enjoyable fun, while Inverter wasn’t so good due to the extremely tight restraints. Aside from rides I didn’t do much else in the park, but the other guests seemed to be enjoying the games and other activities. I also have to compliment the park’s ride operators on their excellent operations, especially on the coasters. They wasted no time on getting riders through, and usually dispatched trains in a minute or less. I also ventured down to New York New York to ride the Big Apple Coaster. I was completely aware of the near-universal hate for this ride and therefore went in expecting to hate it, but after riding it, I honestly didn't think it was that bad. Granted, I was riding it defensively in the front row, but I didn't experience much head-banging, and there were a few elements that I found enjoyable. I still think the price tag of $15 was a bit high for what I got though. All in all, it isn't exactly a good/great coaster, but I've ridden much worse. I was able to ride X-Scream and Big Shot at the Stratosphere (Insanity was closed for high winds). X-Scream had me scared for a second when the car approached the end of the track, especially since I was in the front row, and Big Shot was essentially the same as every other S&S Space Shot I've ridden, just 900 feet in the air (though the ejector air pop at the top was a nice surprise). Additionally, I was able to experience the Stratosphere SkyJump, which was very expensive but worth it in the end. Getting to jump off a building 855 feet down to the ground is an amazing exhilarating experience that I'll never forget. Overall I had a fantastic time in Vegas, and I look forward to returning sometime in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThemeParkJunkie51290 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 ^ I'm glad to hear great news about Adventuredome! I'm finalizing all my plans for my west coast trip, and Adventuredome is on my list for sure! I'm just thrilled about riding El Loco and Canyon Blaster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Stratosphere Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 ^^ Awesome I am glad that you had a great trip, I agree that ops at Adventuredome are great and they get people through on those rides, even on the busiest day, your wait times are never bad. As far as The Big Apple Coaster, you got on it just after it reopened from its annual maintenance, it is the best time to ride it, and it's amazing what a little layer of fresh paint can do to a ride (and re-tracked sections)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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