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I feel like Universal is getting ruined. First they have the idiotic idea of removing most of the theming on dueling dragons when 're theming' it, then they remove disaster, and replace it with a Jimmy Falon ride, then they remove twister.

 

I love how you cherry pick these 3 things (at least one of which is very debatable... especially when we're talking about rides that aren't open yet) and then ignore the fact that during the same time frame they built a really cool Simpsons land, an awesome Transformers ride and 2 of the most amazing themed lands and ride experiences anywhere in the world anchored by 2 of the most incredible rides ever built anywhere ever with Diagon Alley, Hogsmeade, Gringots and Forbidden Journey. How can you ignore all of that and claim that Universal is "getting ruined" because they removed 2 crappy rides in Disaster and Twister?

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I feel like Universal is getting ruined. First they have the idiotic idea of removing most of the theming on dueling dragons when 're theming' it, then they remove disaster, and replace it with a Jimmy Falon ride, then they remove twister.

 

I love how you cherry pick these 3 things (at least one of which is very debatable... especially when we're talking about rides that aren't open yet) and then ignore the fact that during the same time frame they built a really cool Simpsons land, an awesome Transformers ride and 2 of the most amazing themed lands and ride experiences anywhere in the world anchored by 2 of the most incredible rides ever built anywhere ever with Diagon Alley, Hogsmeade, Gringots and Forbidden Journey. How can you ignore all of that and claim that Universal is "getting ruined" because they removed 2 crappy rides in Disaster and Twister?

 

I'm not even sure he knows what he's complaining about.

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I feel like Universal is getting ruined. First they have the idiotic idea of removing most of the theming on dueling dragons when 're theming' it, then they remove disaster, and replace it with a Jimmy Falon ride, then they remove twister.

 

I love how you cherry pick these 3 things (at least one of which is very debatable... especially when we're talking about rides that aren't open yet) and then ignore the fact that during the same time frame they built a really cool Simpsons land, an awesome Transformers ride and 2 of the most amazing themed lands and ride experiences anywhere in the world anchored by 2 of the most incredible rides ever built anywhere ever with Diagon Alley, Hogsmeade, Gringots and Forbidden Journey. How can you ignore all of that and claim that Universal is "getting ruined" because they removed 2 crappy rides in Disaster and Twister?

 

 

I was simply correcting your previous statement. I think anything is better then Disaster and Twister.

I'm confused. You first you say that anything is better than Disaster, and Twister, and in your last comment you said twister, and Disaster is better than something.

Also is a chinese knock off SLC, with cactus seats, and sandpaper restraints better than Disaster and Twister.

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Dueling Dragons - > Dragons Challenge

 

Disaster - > Fast and the Furious

 

Twister - > Fallon

I dunno, I kind of see it more like this....

 

Dueling Dragons SLIGHTLY > Dragon Challenge

 

Disaster = Fast and the Furious

 

Twister = Fallon

 

Remember that Dragon Challenge didn't start out not dueling. So it's entirely possible that had Dueling Dragons continued in existence, this same thing might have happened to the ride. DD's theming of course was WAAAAAAY better than DC's, but honestly, I've ridden both sides of it recently, and they are both still pretty kick ass coasters!

 

I've been through Disaster/Earthquake three times in the last 10 years, and two of those were to help someone film it during the last week.

I don't think I've been into Twister in probably 15 years.

 

So neither one of those attractions I ride at all, and I'm expecting (only do to my interest level of the properties) that I will not ride F&F or Fallon much more often than I did Twister or Disaster, so in my mind both of them are a wash. They aren't replacing something I frequent, and they aren't something I probably frequent once they are built.

 

But who knows? I'm willing to give them a chance. Maybe they will surprise me and end up being a bit of fun!

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Dueling Dragons - > Dragons Challenge

 

Disaster - > Fast and the Furious

 

Twister - > Fallon

I dunno, I kind of see it more like this....

 

Dueling Dragons SLIGHTLY > Dragon Challenge

 

Disaster = Fast and the Furious

 

Twister = Fallon

 

Remember that Dragon Challenge didn't start out not dueling. So it's entirely possible that had Dueling Dragons continued in existence, this same thing might have happened to the ride. DD's theming of course was WAAAAAAY better than DC's, but honestly, I've ridden both sides of it recently, and they are both still pretty kick A$$ coasters!

 

I've been through Disaster/Earthquake three times in the last 10 years, and two of those were to help someone film it during the last week.

I don't think I've been into Twister in probably 15 years.

 

So neither one of those attractions I ride at all, and I'm expecting (only do to my interest level of the properties) that I will not ride F&F or Fallon much more often than I did Twister or Disaster, so in my mind both of them are a wash. They aren't replacing something I frequent, and they aren't something I probably frequent once they are built.

 

But who knows? I'm willing to give them a chance. Maybe they will surprise me and end up being a bit of fun!

 

Do you know why they downgraded the theming?

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So yeah . . . Heard the news twister was officially closing. Went to the studios sunday morning for some cheap hhn gear and decided "well its no line, might as well e?perience it again".

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Left, came back for HHN and saw a huge crowd hanging around it. Realized it was the last day! I admit, I never made ot a must attraction but I did like the cheesiness of it.

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Do you know why they downgraded the theming?

J.K. Rowling.

Y'know, considering that they fabricated what's basically an original story for Forbidden Journey, I'm surprised that they didn't try to come up with one to tie into the Fire / Ice dragons thing instead of plucking the Triwizard Tournament story from the books.

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Do you know why they downgraded the theming?

J.K. Rowling.

Y'know, considering that they fabricated what's basically an original story for Forbidden Journey, I'm surprised that they didn't try to come up with one to tie into the Fire / Ice dragons thing instead of plucking the Triwizard Tournament story from the books.

From what I've heard she HATED the ride and wanted it removed. Universal had to fight to keep it, and I'm sure part of that was removing any theming and just keeping the minimal, bare bones attraction and what little story line they were allowed to have for it. My understanding is that they were told to downplay dragons to make Forbidden Journey seem like the feature ride in the area.

 

And that is pretty much exactly what happened.

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Fair enough. I actually like the current queue design even though it's a little dark, but I understand why people were so let down by the change. But, then again, I never got to experience the attraction when it was Dueling Dragons, so I really don't know.

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Fair enough. I actually like the current queue design even though it's a little dark, but I understand why people were so let down by the change. But, then again, I never got to experience the attraction when it was Dueling Dragons, so I really don't know.

 

Dragons had a pretty awesome queue line, but one of the issues is that the ride was both at a park that rarely had giant crowds and was a people eater. The queue line simply ended up being something to pass through quickly en route to the station and the almost constant walk on crowds (a bit like now, honestly).

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Fair enough. I actually like the current queue design even though it's a little dark, but I understand why people were so let down by the change. But, then again, I never got to experience the attraction when it was Dueling Dragons, so I really don't know.

 

Dragons had a pretty awesome queue line, but one of the issues is that the ride was both at a park that rarely had giant crowds and was a people eater. The queue line simply ended up being something to pass through quickly en route to the station and the almost constant walk on crowds (a bit like now, honestly).

 

Reminds me of Lotte World, they had an amazing queue line for Pharaohs Fury but because of graffiti you had to wait outside so people just passed through quickly when let in and they ending up ripping out most of it for a separate attraction, a trick art gallery, instead of passing a lot of exhibits, you now just end up in a tiny exhibit area and straight into the excavation section.

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Fair enough. I actually like the current queue design even though it's a little dark, but I understand why people were so let down by the change. But, then again, I never got to experience the attraction when it was Dueling Dragons, so I really don't know.

 

Dragons had a pretty awesome queue line, but one of the issues is that the ride was both at a park that rarely had giant crowds and was a people eater. The queue line simply ended up being something to pass through quickly en route to the station and the almost constant walk on crowds (a bit like now, honestly).

And most of the time, if you knew your way around the queue, you'd just enter on the bottom level anyway and go right into the "choose thy fate" room instead of the entire queue.

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Hulks renovation is not unprecedented, Disneyland did it to Space Mountain in 2005.

I don't think anyone thinks it's unprecedented to be honest, I'm sure Space Mountain has even been mentioned in this thread already. I think it's surprised people because Hulk is quite a bit newer, but as has been touched on it hasn't actually had a major rehab, has certainly done a few miles in its lifetime, and I think because it's still popular, they're replacing it rather than patching it up for a few years and then removing it completely.

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Dueling Dragons - > Dragons Challenge

 

Disaster - > Fast and the Furious

 

Twister - > Fallon

I dunno, I kind of see it more like this....

 

Dueling Dragons SLIGHTLY > Dragon Challenge

 

Disaster = Fast and the Furious

 

Twister = Fallon

 

Remember that Dragon Challenge didn't start out not dueling. So it's entirely possible that had Dueling Dragons continued in existence, this same thing might have happened to the ride. DD's theming of course was WAAAAAAY better than DC's, but honestly, I've ridden both sides of it recently, and they are both still pretty kick A$$ coasters!

 

I've been through Disaster/Earthquake three times in the last 10 years, and two of those were to help someone film it during the last week.

I don't think I've been into Twister in probably 15 years.

 

So neither one of those attractions I ride at all, and I'm expecting (only do to my interest level of the properties) that I will not ride F&F or Fallon much more often than I did Twister or Disaster, so in my mind both of them are a wash. They aren't replacing something I frequent, and they aren't something I probably frequent once they are built.

 

But who knows? I'm willing to give them a chance. Maybe they will surprise me and end up being a bit of fun!

 

Oh, I wasn't commenting on what I think is greater or less then, I was just showing old to new attractions flow.

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I'm indifferent to what Universal has announced--and dubious as to the Fallon ride. But, as Robb said. maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised. It sounds like the park is becoming "Simulator Land," though.

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I'm indifferent to what Universal has announced--and dubious as to the Fallon ride. But, as Robb said. maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised. It sounds like the park is becoming "Simulator Land," though.

 

This has to be a concern... "ride the movies" not "watch the movies whilst being shaken".

 

I'm a little saddened by the ending of Twister and Disaster from a conceptual standpoint - hearkening back to "the good ol' days" when Universal used to show you how movies were made through physical sets and practical effects. Of course, today, that would be what, Skyping with folks over in Asia sitting around doing CGI?

 

But think about the glories of turning back the clock to pre-Twister... with a Universal Orlando classic - the Ghostbusters Spooktacular!

 

Actually, with the reboot coming out, that wouldn't be the worst idea ever...

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The old Universal was filled with simulator rides and static experiences in which standing or sitting groups of people watched something happen and pretended to be impressed. I'd rather "ride the movies" if that means I get more rides like Spiderman, Mummy, and Potter, I'm way more excited about that than I am the halcyon days of Backdraft and Nick Studios. And besides *EVERY* park is going to be focusing on rides with projection and synch'ed video. Nobody here really thinks the Star Wars stuff is gonna feature hundreds of clunky animatronics, do they?

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And besides *EVERY* park is going to be focusing on rides with projection and synch'ed video. Nobody here really thinks the Star Wars stuff is gonna feature hundreds of clunky animatronics, do they?

 

This is why I'm a bit more curious about Kong at IOA, as it looks like it'll be more of a dark ride (using 3D projections). I like to see a good mix of physical and digital sets and effects as part of a dark ride, but I'm not a big fan of sitting in a theater while my chair moves around.

 

Spider-man, which is still the Universal resort's best attraction, is a good example of what I mean.

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And besides *EVERY* park is going to be focusing on rides with projection and synch'ed video. Nobody here really thinks the Star Wars stuff is gonna feature hundreds of clunky animatronics, do they?

 

This is why I'm a bit more curious about Kong at IOA, as it looks like it'll be more of a dark ride (using 3D projections). I like to see a good mix of physical and digital sets and effects as part of a dark ride, but I'm not a big fan of sitting in a theater while my chair moves around.

 

Spider-man, which is still the Universal resort's best attraction, is a good example of what I mean.

 

I get what you're saying, but meanwhile, I look at the anchor for Avatar, Soarin' Over The World, Iron Man @ HKDL, and what I expect for at least one of the Star Wars rides, and it just seems like they're running at the forefront of the trend in the industry.

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