StealthFan Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 This looks like a very interesting idea from RMC and will be very interested to see one being built. If parks are willing to be imaginative they could do some seriously amazing artwork on the track to tie in with whatever theme they would choose for the ride. Cant wait to hear more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keetz Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I think ibox with full steel supports would be ugly and inefficient. Â Totally agree. I love the way Goliath's lift hill structure looks like, it's gonna be cool to see what support system the come up with to go with this new track style. It looks like they might be able to make it even boxier for long stretches of unsupported ribbon track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midgetman82 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I like the coaster track, even with as funky as it looks. It reminds me of these Lego Duplo Highway bricks I used to play with as a kid. Â Like others have mentioned, I'm betting that this track type might be able to support itself with support spacing similar to B&M (I'm no engineer, I'm only guessing). Â ^^ it can use steel supports. Ibox doesn't use steel supports. They could. See the Free Spin. Â I don't think this new track will provide new elements or revolutionary rides (definitely not decreasing the roll length, and I don't think I want to see that anyway). The pros of that system are more on the manufacturing side. Could this mean cheaper coasters? Also with that, could this mean parks could inevitably build much bigger/longer with RMC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCT3Bross Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Well this is interesting, Wonder what the general ideas are for this concept. That said, there is something to get used to though. When the first coaster will be announced I might need to get used to the bulky T-Rex track, but if that's everything this could really become something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blk_mamba Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I think it does look cool, it just looking kinda heavy and thick. I assume that the track pieces are hollow so it might be a little loud in a park. With all that being said I think it would look cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devious Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Well, judging by what RMC has done in the past, a quick cheap track type that could self-contain most of the machinery & wiring to run the actual ride (Lift chain/motor, brakes, launch track, sensors, etc.) seems like an insane winner for them. Â Think about it. all you have to do is build small access areas into the bottom of it to get at the mechanics and you could even hide support structure inside the box structure of the track, allowing long arches or hills over obstacles that don't require building supports under them (Great for hopping paths or other rides, for instance) Which at more crowded parks could be one hell of a selling point. Â In short, looking at just the basic renders, you get a bit of a "Why?" moment, but thinking about it, it's the kind of thing RMC Can really push the limits with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyRCT3 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 ^ I don't see how you could get both a support structure and a mechanic inside that space. And then still have the required space to operate on anything that needs fixed. Â GateKeeper's keyholes were first shown to sheathe the supports in the same manner you mentioned, however plans changed to make it easier to maintenance the columns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Lift motor + gearbox won't fit inside the box track. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbatboy Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 The lift hill doesnt necessarily have to be the same shape/form as the rest of the course. Even some of the early Intamin hypers have different track shapes throughout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COASTER FREAK 11 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Its just not reasonable to enclose the mechanics of the ride. If a park ever wants to, they normally hid it under the station. There is just simply no reason to make maintenance harder by enclosing the mechanics for ascetic reasons. Really, why bother... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marney Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I could swear there's another type of coaster that uses this same track design that's in China or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyknottsville Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 When I see that new track and trains I visualize something built for extreme speeds, maybe heights. I would love for this to turn into RMCs version of the Giga or Stratacoaster they're calling the concept T-Rex with a name like that it has to be a RMC stunner in the makings. I wouldn't be surprised if it's SFMM 20th either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Password121 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Looking at the trains, the headrests to me signify either a very powerful launch or more extreme inversions that those we've seen on there I-box/wooden coasters. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Hero Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 ^I believe the rendering isn't official, and it's made by Coaster Lab on NLE (which is about as close as you can get to official ). Meaning, it may very well not have headrests, or it may. We'll have to see until one of these things is actually built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenbowl Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Looking at the trains, the headrests to me signify either a very powerful launch or more extreme inversions that those we've seen on there I-box/wooden coasters. Just a thought. Â Lightning Rod's trains will have the same headrests if you look at the rendering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRCT3 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 ^I believe the rendering isn't official, and it's made by Coaster Lab on NLE (which is about as close as you can get to official ). Meaning, it may very well not have headrests, or it may. We'll have to see until one of these things is actually built. Â They do are made by Coaster Lab, but he works for/with RMC here. So these are official and made by Coaster Lab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickstroberg Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 ^^good! My girlfriend has an extremely weak neck, from rumetoid arthritis and having steel rods in her spine up to the base of her neck. She hasn't been able to ride an RMC yet, because without head support, her neck just bends backwards really far and painfully in any high Gforce section. So if this and LR get headrests, she'll finally get to experience an RMC!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1ch0las Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 One of the reasons RMC is so hot with chains like Six Flags is because they offer very good value for money in terms of thrills - this looks like an extension of that business plan. This track looks versatile, strong and able to support a full, ground up built steel coaster with plenty of "next level" elements that we probably haven't even seen before. Most importantly, it might be able to be produced cheaper than competitors in the steel coaster market, and that's a win for the company. Next step is improving their products with each iteration and providing a more reliable experience for parks with better capacity. Â It's already been said but it reminds me of B&M track spine without the rails - either way its really neat to see this company create so many patents in such a short period of time. I wonder when they sleep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timetrial3141592 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 It is also worth pointing out that tubular steel is expensive. This box design can be fabricated from steel plates, making it much cheaper. Â Just my .02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterkid124 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I could swear there's another type of coaster that uses this same track design that's in China or something. Â I don't know the name of it, or its park, but I know there is one built like this. It's basically a small shuttle loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster-Lab Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Hi Everyone!  These are the official renders. Robb got them from RMC.  I've been working with Alan Schilke from RideCenterline and RMC for a while now and I was assigned to do the design of these trains.  I'm very glad to read that most of you like the design  Regards,  Camiel Bilsen Coaster-Lab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Stratosphere Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Agreed with the statements of how awesome it is to see a company be so innovative!! I love the trains that are used on RMC coasters, they feel super secure, but you have a lot of freedom. Â I cannot wait to see an attraction using this track type in a park! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Hero Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 ^Fantastic work! Congrats on getting selected to do the renderings, I really like the design of the trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingleRiderCam Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 With the 2 by 3 cars, I have a great idea that they might iron horse arrow hypers with this track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Password121 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 ^Obviously I'm not in a position to say this with any certainty, but because of the weird support structures of Arrow/Morgan hypers it would seem like way too much effort and money to make the same product with custom supports and a better layout. There are no traditional hyper coasters that come to mind that are so unpopular that a conversion of such scale and cost would be warranted. Wooden coaster support structures are a major expense, Arrow hyper supports are not as intense in terms of amount of material. A custom layout is a better idea, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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