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I'm going to call it now: I think this will definitely debut in the top three in the Mitch Hawker poll. Lap bars only and no seatbelts (by the looks of things), low sweeping turns, nice pacing and hopefully amazing air time will make this one of the best coasters in a decade.

 

I think there are seat-belts. If not I'm trying to figure out what those black straps are. (particulary on the 3rd seat from the left)

Those aren't seat belts, per say. They are straps that connect to the lap bar itself. Similar to over the shoulder lap bars. There doesn't appear to be an seat belt for riders from what we see however.

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I'm going to call it now: I think this will definitely debut in the top three in the Mitch Hawker poll. Lap bars only and no seatbelts (by the looks of things), low sweeping turns, nice pacing and hopefully amazing air time will make this one of the best coasters in a decade.

 

I think there are seat-belts. If not I'm trying to figure out what those black straps are. (particulary on the 3rd seat from the left)

Those aren't seat belts, per say. They are straps that connect to the lap bar itself. Similar to over the shoulder lap bars. There doesn't appear to be an seat belt that would go over riders laps

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Don't know if this would need it's on topic or has been discussed in it's own topic but I have a quick question...

 

Does Hershey Park own the Skyrush layout, meaning if I had my own park that has nothing to do with Hershey could I request from Intamin to build me a clone of Skyrush? Can Intamin sell exact clones of Skyrush without Hershey's approval or do they even have to get approval from Hershey if they wanted to sell an exact clone?

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Don't know if this would need it's on topic or has been discussed in it's own topic but I have a quick question...

 

Does Hershey Park own the Skyrush layout, meaning if I had my own park that has nothing to do with Hershey could I request from Intamin to build me a clone of Skyrush? Can Intamin sell exact clones of Skyrush without Hershey's approval or do they even have to get approval from Hershey if they wanted to sell an exact clone?

 

I wouldn't see why not. Hershey may (I repeat may) have a special contract with the new trains, but honestly I think if another park wanted a clone they could get it. But if you were sinking in that much money, you'd probably want to get a custom layout (at least I would).

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I was sold on trying to get to Hershey this summer by watching the construction, now I HAVE to be in one of those outer seats.

 

I think Intamin may have a great train design on their hands. I wonder if it could be possible for parks with other Intamin mega, mega-lite, or giga coasters to possibly kind of exchange their existing trains for a train model similar to this?

 

I love that idea but isn't the SkyRush track a lot wider than the standard intamin track? In order for the idea to happen another version of the trains would have to be designed.

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I don't think it's any wider than I305's track (but who knows how that compares to the box-spine); I think it's just beefier to account for the larger trains.

 

It is about 30% wider than the i305 track, at I believe 4 feet. R.D. can correct me on the specifics...

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Yeah, this track is wider than normal Intamin track.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong here -

 

As for seat vibration, it shouldn't be too much of an issue because the structure supporting the outer seats is short and stout. Furius Baco, by comparison, has structures that are essentially just long sticks with heavy seats placed on top of them. The small amount of vibration that you would feel sitting in the inner seat gets stronger and stronger as you move further outward.

 

By comparison, B&M Diving Coaster track is wide enough that you can fit six-wide trains to it with little to no vibration, and still not a lot (at least to me) of vibration when you fit eight- or ten-wide trains (I've ridden Griffon on the outer seat comfortably). Curiously, Krake at Heide Park appears to use standard-width B&M track.

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Does Hershey Park own the Skyrush layout, meaning if I had my own park that has nothing to do with Hershey could I request from Intamin to build me a clone of Skyrush? Can Intamin sell exact clones of Skyrush without Hershey's approval or do they even have to get approval from Hershey if they wanted to sell an exact clone?

 

Skyrush was specifically designed to fit into that little corner of Comet Hollow. The layout had to work around (and over) the Comet structure, existing buildings, the creek bed, and the hill on the far side leading to the road. In another park or setting that layout would be awkward.

 

As to who owns the layout, that would be determined by the contract between Hersheypark and Intamin, which we are not privy to. I know in my line of work some of our customers want to own the intellectual property for the design, and we are happy to give them that for a price. Others don't want the IP, and we can reuse that design on a product for another customer.

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^Thanks for answering my question, I was just using Skyrush as an example it could apply to any custom coaster really.

 

As to who owns the layout, that would be determined by the contract between Hersheypark and Intamin, which we are not privy to. I know in my line of work some of our customers want to own the intellectual property for the design, and we are happy to give them that for a price. Others don't want the IP, and we can reuse that design on a product for another customer.

 

Yes this is how I thought it may work, wasn't 100% sure again thanks for confirming it for me.

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This may be a REALLY stupid question but do you think there will be some sort of retractable floor in the station, for shorter people to get in the winged seat?

 

Do you mean like in the stations of floorless coasters? At first I thought that there would be a similar mechanism for the winged seats, but now I'm thinking that they'll just hang over the station platform. Although now that I think about it, that'll leave people's legs dangerously close to the floor when the train dispatches... anybody have insight on the dispatch procedure for the trains?

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This may be a REALLY stupid question but do you think there will be some sort of retractable floor in the station, for shorter people to get in the winged seat?

 

There is no retractable floor. If you look at the picture of the train, the outer seats sit lower than the middle ones. This is to allow riders to load more easily. I'm sure they are reclined too, to keep feet off the floor, much like the impulse coasters, which has been mentioned.

 

The downside of this arrangement is that the person sitting in the opposite winged position will have to climb over the middle section to get to their seat.

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Well, hello awesome. 2012 is the most exciting year for coasters in a long time. Skyrush looks absolutely fantastic. Kings Dominion is my home park and I'm STILL jealous of your guys up in Hershey. I'm going to try to get up there before the summer is over. I haven't been since Storm Runner opened.

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I'm going to call it now: I think this will definitely debut in the top three in the Mitch Hawker poll. Lap bars only and no seatbelts (by the looks of things), low sweeping turns, nice pacing and hopefully amazing air time will make this one of the best coasters in a decade.

I agree, this ride has the potential to be one of Intamins best hypers. And considering pretty much all of their hypers have made it into the top 20 on the Mitch Hawker Poll, that is saying a lot.

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