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P. 2017: Top Thrill Dragster RETIRED!?!?!?

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I was at the park for a while yesterday and I have to say it was a great time. I'm up from AZ visiting family this week for my birthday and decided I'm going to treat myself to a few days at CP while staying at a buddies house a few miles away. The group I went with was as GP as it gets so I kept my inner nerd inside for most of the day just becasue it was tiring trying to correct everything said haha. We got in around 1pm with some decent looking crowds, but nothing too major, parked back by Soak City and what's the first thing we see? Magnum stuck on the lift. That's depressing because it's usually what I hit first and it's my favorite coaster of all.

 

So we headed straight to Maverick since I've only gotten two laps on it in previous years. Waited around an hour for it and it's still worth a wait in my opinion. Next up was MS since we were right there and we waited maybe 10 minutes, the line was just to the bottom of the stairs. I've always liked riding MS and this time was no exception. The first half of the ride was very enjoyable, at least in the front row, and it was the smoothest I've felt it in years. But a few hundred feet before the MCBR is where the noticeable change occurred and the violence began. At this point my buddy who is beyond scared $%!@less of coasters (he spent the day distracting himself with jokes and now refers to MS as "Michael J Fox -The Experience" and refused to ride anything with wood on it for the rest of his days) has ridden two and is getting to the point of not really wanting to ride anymore, but he stuck with it and rode the rest of the day, even though he would have much rather sampled every fried cheese stand in the park .

 

So after MS we made our way back towards Magnum, skipping Gemini per Johns request and found Magnum still closed . Later I found out from a friend who works at the park that the lift motor went. So we hopped in line for dragster and how sweet it was. The line was only to the bottom of the ramp and it seemed to stay that way all day. This lap on Dragster was the best I think I've ever had with tons of air going over the top hat and it looked like they had her cranked up a couple more notches for the day because every train was flying over the top. From Dragster we wandered up to the Matterhorn, Scrambler, Dodgems area and found my friend working to see what kind of goodies she could get us. She could only manage a free ride on Iron Dragon but there was no line for it anyway so it was pointless.

 

After a quick burger at the Coaster cafe we did a lap on Iron Dragon then Mantis. This was the first time I'd ever ridden Mantis towards the back and I will never do it again. I've never had a big problem with headbanging on Mantis until that lap, I thought my ears were bleeding and it damn near shattered my shatter-proof sunglasses. From Mantis to MF and sat in the back car for some great floater throughout. My only complaint was the train seemed to be running real rough, we were on the red train and was shaking quite a bit. So at this point it was kind of a group decision to check Raptors line and head home for some beer and steak.

 

Walking up to Raptor I was pleasantly surprised by the beautiful beach and no "12-E" towering over that midway. My inner nerd was trying deperately to just run to the Giant Wheel to get a better look but I managed to keep that urge down. I guess some DT track was layed out on the beach in the morning and removed throughout the day. I'm going again on Friday with my brother and his girlfriend who are both a little more interested in coasters and what my nerd has to say so I'll geek out then. Another surprise of the day was Raptor had virtually no wait, at least when we rode, the line started where the fast lane enters. We decided front row was a must to check out the DT site and I silently studied the site and front gate and have realized just how great GateKeeper is going to look there. After what was quite possibly the best lap on Raptor I've ever had we made our way back to the car and found the bar for the rest of the evening.

 

All in all it was a pretty great day, 1pm to just before 6pm and we managed to hit just about everything. TTD and Raptor were running absolutely fantastic and stole the day. Tomorrow I'm meeting my brother and his group and we're going to try out the Fast Lane since he got tickets from a friend for next to nothing.

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^ I was At the park for my B-DAY on 8/29 as well. The night before the E-12 was standing and suddenly was gone that morning! Magnum was down all day! Thanks for the lift motor research cause I wondered what happened. Magnum ran a little at 11am on opening but was down all day right after that. I rushed over from TTD's second shot of the day with park guest and Magnum was already down. This was the REAL bummer of the day although I applaud Cedar Point as maintenance was at least making an attempt to get it operating most of the day! Also the park was only running the red side of Gemini!

 

I also hopped on Windseeker so I could see the Disaster Transport destruction!

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Was 12-E collapsed or something? I guess we'll find out when that person posts the next weekly timelapse (look on PointBuzz, I think in the GateKeeper forum).

 

On another note, how many lateral g-forces does Maverick pull in the QDCs (quick direction changes)

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I'm not sure it pulls as many lateral Gs as you'd think. I've never ridden it (let alone strap an accelerometer to myself) though.

 

The directional changes most likely feel more forceful (and painful) for the same reason people complain about Skyrush at Hersheypark - a really small contact point. I know I feel the same way when going through the tight corkscrews on Fahrenheit - the side of my tiny waist is jammed against the lap restraint.

 

The lateral Gs on a Mack Wild Mouse could be considered more comfortable because the force is distributed along the side of your entire upper body. If Arrow Corkscrews had the open trains that Intamin coasters use, I'd bet that the transition into the corkscrews would be unbearable. I can't even imagine what Screamroller at Worlds of Fun felt like with the standing trains.

 

Typical "I could be wrong" disclaimer.

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Since the track is heartlined the forces will be different throughout the train. I wouldn't really consider them typical laterals like on a Wild Mouse. It's not like the entire train is being thrown to the side, it is merely rotating quickly. I have never personally experienced any horrible laterals on Maverick, but as AJ said, the contact points with the restrain make them uncomfortable. The only thing that's unbearable about the transitions is having your head thrust to one side; especially on the outside seat (in other words, if the train is switching from right to left, the right-side seat will feel more of the forces). I personally overcome this by turning my head before the transition occurs, then rotate my head accordingly so it doesn't hit the otsr's. I know that sounds retarded but it works rather well for me.

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Was going to go to Kings Island today but since they may have some of Isaac to deal with I decided to head west. Though quite busy it wasn't too bad overall except for Maverick. It felt like the line would not move for almost an hour and a half (that was the posted wait time). I also think Fast Lane is a joke for Maverick as that line was almost to the entrance and didn't seem to move either.

 

Magnum was running today, had a great back seat ride. Only rode Magnum, Raptor, Maverick, Corkscrew, Gemini, Windseeker, Power Tower (Space Shot, which it seems no one likes as there was no line for it) and Calypso. Don't ride Millennium Force or Dragster for fear of the "walk of shame".

 

Here's a photo I took of the games midway minus 12E. What a huge difference now that it's gone.

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So as I said before, I was headin to CP again on Friday 8/31 for a second day of nerding. It was a much better day as the group I was with was willing to marathon a few of the coasters with me rather than hit them once and leave. We decided to fork up the $50 per person for the fast lane which wasn't really necessary crowd-wise for the day, but did make for a truly great and relaxing day.

 

We pulled into the lot at 10 as the park was opening, Magnum was up and running so we hit it first and I got my great front row ride on her. It's still my all time favorite because of the sentimental values it holds. Next we went to Maverick for a couple of laps with no lines, thank you fast lane. The more I ride Maverick and as I learn how to ride it with as little defense as possible I'm realizing that it's quickly climbing my favorites list. Even though I haven't felt the softer harness like on I:305 I can see how a little bit more padding would make Mav a much more enjoyable ride for the average person. After Maverick we hopped on the CP & LE RR to hit up Mantis and MF. Mantis was still running very rough like on Wednesday. I'm not sure if we got the worse of the two trains both times but I had a serious headache afterwards and the headbanging was just out of control. Next, another great lap on MF and got the red train again like Wednesday. Still a little shakey in the back but nonetheless a great lap.

 

Today as we were walking up to Raptor I did wander a little more towards DT's site to paint the mental picture of what GateKeeper could look like during that walk. I think it's going to look absolutely fantastic and will change the look of the front of the park for the better. We rode Raptor in the last row which I very rarely do and got a nice, smooth, powerful ride. Next the gang wanted to ride WT and I was about 99% sure I wouldn't be able to. I sat in the test seat and needed a good 3 inches to connect the belt, disappointing but I was prepared for the shame. So I sat and watched a few trains while having a smoke then wandered to WIndseeker to snap a few pics of it. Windseeker never did open on Friday due to high winds and I still havent been able to ride it. Haha the seeker of wind can't seek because of wind . Another surprise was they had taken down all of the Gatekeeper teaser posters. I understand it's been officially announced but all that was on the wall by the site was the overview and stats poster.

 

After they did WT we went back to hit up Dragster and once again the line was no more than 20 minutes all day. One of the girls with us had never been on it and it's always fun to watch the fear build as each train goes. She wound up loving it after about an hour and the adrenaline wore off somewhat but she was visibly shaking as we were checking out the photo booth haha. We'd hit everything major and it was only 2pm, what to do now? It was a hot day, much hotter than Wednesday so we wandered back to STR (I don't count this as a credit, to me it's a glorified Snake River Falls type ride). Having never been on STR i found it a pretty fun ride with decent drops. As long as you don't sit in the front row you don't get too wet and even then I noticed there isn't too much of the unecessary-amount-of-wetness factor going on.

 

So after cooling off we started to lap the park again. Walking up towards the front I stopped to ask my friend what the best food for your buck. Usually we'd hit the Midway Market by Raptor because it used to be decent food for about $15 per person but I was told it has gotten to be lesser quality and more expensive. So I made the final decision and we went over to the marina and enjoyed a very delicious meal at Famous Dave's. Nothing like a two meat combo with chopped pork and brisket, potato salad, corn on the cob and a sweet tea for the same price as any "meal" you're going to get inside the park. Not to mention a very fun waiter, Nick from Flint MI. Thanks Nick!!

 

After our delicious meal we stopped to see my friend again and her ride was "down for mechanical reasons". I put it in quotes because she was having fun with the guests who'd keep walking up and ask what was going on. We chatted and laughed until she had to get back to work and then we lapped the park again hitting Raptor, Iron Dragon, MF (this time I had the yellow train and it was much smoother than the red), Skyhawk. I'd completely forgotten how awesome skyhawk was. I'd only been on it once before and it wasn't enough to let it sink in. I'm going to have to make it a point to ride it many times during my next trip. Then on to Maverick, MS (which at night the first half wasn't as smooth as Wednesday haha), Gemini (still only running the red side), and another lap on Magnum. This put us at around 8:30pm and we had until 10. So at this point we split and half of us went to marathon MF and the other half went to Maverick. I went to Maverick to up my count, I got it up to 12. I have to say, Maverick at night is a completely different beast. I thought I'd experienced ejector airtime before but the camelback before the horshoe roll in the back row was INSANE!!!!1!!!!!111!!! We lapped Maverick several times before meeting up with the rest of the group and making the 2 hour drive back home to Detroit.

 

Overall a very sucessful two days at CP and after getting back to my moms, and realizing that pretty much everybody I know has left the state of Michigan, I'm seriously considering a trip to Michigan's Adventure tomorrow. Fast Lane, like many have said before about fast lane and flash pass, is worth every penny IF you don't frequent the park. If I still lived in MI and frequented CP I don't think it'd be necessary to buy the fast lane. But to each his own opinion.

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I'm very excited about Gatekeeper. It looks amazing!!

Fixed

 

^^Based on your review of Maverick, it could use some of the I-305 restraints. If you could enjoy it without it karate chopping you every transition, then it might beat out Millennium Force for the "Best Coaster in the World" (Not like that means much...).

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^^^^ What really bothers me on Maverick's restraints isn't the Head/Neck banging, but rather how it gets much tighter on my thighs by the end of the ride.

 

And I am really excited for Gatekeeper! It reminds of Hollywood Dream at Universal Studios Japan with the way is crosses over the entrance plaza. The whole area is going to change for the better.

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I generally hate autostapling (which is why I don't like Millennium Flyers or Skyrush), so I'm sure I would've noticed if it affected me on Maverick. For me the issue is all about the infamous neck (and arm) chops. And hair pulling.

 

But there is really nothing about Maverick that takes away from my love for it. I can handle the minimal annoyances.

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I'm very excited about Gatekeeper. It looks amazing!!

Fixed

 

Sorry about that. thanks

 

Why did this need to be fixed, because he put the word 'The" in front of it? So what, that's not going to ruin the ride or anything. If that needs to be fixed then all these rides' names that are butchered, like "Maggie", etc. then needs to also be fixed.

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