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So... on the subject of loving rides with “traditional banks”... it’s funny. I got off of Steel Vengeance in total disbelief. I love the ride to death. It’s one of the best coasters I’ve ever ridden, I have nothing but praise for that masterpiece of a coaster.

 

Right after we rode it we made our way to Millennium Force and ended up on the first train of the day in the front row with half the rows empty. I figured that a half empty ride in the morning on Millennium Force immediately after riding the most insane ride ever built would be the perfect storm and I would finally come to my senses and have a respectable #1 so you could all stop giving me sh*t but...

 

Yeah, Millennium Force is just perfection. I was super close to being a respectable coaster fan but that coaster just never stops blowing my mind. Sorry guys

Millenium Force may be the perfect coaster.

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So... on the subject of loving rides with “traditional banks”... it’s funny. I got off of Steel Vengeance in total disbelief. I love the ride to death. It’s one of the best coasters I’ve ever ridden, I have nothing but praise for that masterpiece of a coaster.

 

Right after we rode it we made our way to Millennium Force and ended up on the first train of the day in the front row with half the rows empty. I figured that a half empty ride in the morning on Millennium Force immediately after riding the most insane ride ever built would be the perfect storm and I would finally come to my senses and have a respectable #1 so you could all stop giving me sh*t but...

 

Yeah, Millennium Force is just perfection. I was super close to being a respectable coaster fan but that coaster just never stops blowing my mind. Sorry guys

 

I love how much you love Millennium Force! It's not my number 1 coaster anymore, but it's still pretty dang close, and there is truly something special about it, that is almost impossible to describe, but has to be experienced! I'm so sick of all the haters, and naysayers... So you go coasterbill! Keep the MF love alive! It's great!

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So yeah... Steel Vengeance... holy sh*t

 

Yeah, I agree. Now, it may not be the greatest ride in the world, but it's hands down relentless.

 

The ride has so many direction changes, the airtime: it just never stops. As a veteran roller coaster rider, the entire experience was euphoric. I remember thinking when riding, when does this thing STOP going? Holy crap!

 

Still though, with TTD, Maverick, and MF in the same park, it's kinda something you have to be in the mood for. There's really nothing like that Dragster launch, and MF is just fun although the blue train was running SUPER vibration shakey last weekend. I think if MF had a steeper first drop instead of being so drawn out and floater, I would like it much better, because the relentless speed is just a lot of fun.

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This was our first enthusiast event and the people were weird AF. During SV ERT some of the dudes literally looked like they reached sexual climax when the train rolled into the brake run. We were weirded out.

The enthusiasts I met at the passholder preview for Hangtime at Knott's were pretty strange and, frankly, annoying. The people I met when I left Hangtime to mix in with the rest of the crowd on some other rides were way cooler and more fun to talk to. It made me a little worried for what CoasterMania will be like.

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Is this the first time you've experienced enthusiasts first hand? They've been like that for about 2 decades. When I bring a girl I try to distance myself...

 

I've seen people who appear to be enthusiasts wearing coaster tee shirts and what not. I'm not Joe Cool by any means, but they always appeared to be pretty nerdy. That doesn't necessarily mean I wouldn't be able to carry on a conversation with them or would completely avoid it. However, a healthy fraction of the people who attended the event had bizarre behavior. They would whoop and holler as they Queue'd up for their second round of ERT. We just let them run past us. The clapping, screaming, and cheering was a little intense for me. The thing that really weirded us out the most was the expressions we saw as the train moved into the station. Like... I know people joke about other people getting boners about roller coasters, but I think this may have been for real. Some of them looked absolutely sexually satisfied.

 

The campout was really low key, though. The majority of the crowd were families. The rest were some kids just having a good time. We were just two normal gown adults having a good time and we really didn't fit into any group. I'm glad they didn't play the spooky music and have a group of scare actors go around after midnight. I don't sleep well, especially not in a tent. I needed all seven hours of the scheduled sleep. Luckily the spooks stayed away and we were able to get 5-6 hours of ambien assisted sleep.

 

So... on the subject of loving rides with “traditional banks”... it’s funny. I got off of Steel Vengeance in total disbelief. I love the ride to death. It’s one of the best coasters I’ve ever ridden, I have nothing but praise for that masterpiece of a coaster.

 

Right after we rode it we made our way to Millennium Force and ended up on the first train of the day in the front row with half the rows empty. I figured that a half empty ride in the morning on Millennium Force immediately after riding the most insane ride ever built would be the perfect storm and I would finally come to my senses and have a respectable #1 so you could all stop giving me sh*t but...

 

Yeah, Millennium Force is just perfection. I was super close to being a respectable coaster fan but that coaster just never stops blowing my mind. Sorry guys

 

I think MF is our favorite ride there. It's big, it's fast, it's fun, and it's incredibly easy to re-ride. If I get tired of a coaster like that it will be time to take a break from visiting parks.

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Oh good, I'm not completely crazy. Don't get me wrong, SV is an incredible ride, but it's not as easy to marathon. I think that's also the reason Maverick never got very high on my list, even though it's a perfect storm of elements. MF has that general "fun" factor without sacrificing intensity, and stays exciting without sacrificing comfort.

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Going to be at the park solo this coming up Wednesday and most of Thursday if anyone else wants to meet up pm me. Also to whoever got a bit freaked by an enthusiast event try coming out to west coast bash sometime it's less hardcore and way more fun.

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^^For the record, I’m awful at ranking coasters but Steel Vengeance is probably a top 5 for me. The fact that I prefer Millennium Force doesn’t mean I don’t love the sh*t out of Steel Vengeance and think it’s one of the best coasters in the world.

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Prozach,

 

I quoted some of your words to my Fiancee because it was spot on 100% exactly what she has described to me about her experience with coaster events and some enthusiasts and we completely agree. Got a good laugh but as you said it's absolutely true.

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What coasterbill wrote,

 

I got off of Steel Vengeance in total disbelief. I love the ride to death. It’s one of the best coasters I’ve ever ridden, I have nothing but praise for that masterpiece of a coaster.

 

Yeah, Millennium Force is just perfection. I was super close to being a respectable coaster fan but that coaster just never stops blowing my mind. Sorry guys

 

What he was actually thinking,

 

I got off of the Sky Ride at CP in total disbelief. I love the ride to death. It’s one of the best sky ride's I’ve ever ridden, I have nothing but praise for that masterpiece of a sky ride.

 

Yeah, CP's Sky Ride is just perfection. I was super close to being a respectable coaster fan but that sky ride just never stops blowing my mind. Sorry guys

 

I think coasterbill may even dream of the Sky Ride getting the RMC treatment someday.

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^^For the record, I’m awful at ranking coasters but Steel Vengeance is probably a top 5 for me. The fact that I prefer Millennium Force doesn’t mean I don’t love the sh*t out of Steel Vengeance and think it’s one of the best coasters in the world.

 

My top coasters were El Toro and Skyrush, so it’s no surprise SV became my favourite. Back seat at night was incredible. What I love about Cedar Point is the world class variety you mentioned. MF is a fantastic ride, that I also love, but very different than “balls to the wall” SV.

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I've seen people who appear to be enthusiasts wearing coaster tee shirts and what not. I'm not Joe Cool by any means, but they always appeared to be pretty nerdy. That doesn't necessarily mean I wouldn't be able to carry on a conversation with them or would completely avoid it. However, a healthy fraction of the people who attended the event had bizarre behavior. They would whoop and holler as they Queue'd up for their second round of ERT. We just let them run past us. The clapping, screaming, and cheering was a little intense for me. The thing that really weirded us out the most was the expressions we saw as the train moved into the station. Like... I know people joke about other people getting boners about roller coasters, but I think this may have been for real. Some of them looked absolutely sexually satisfied.

 

whooping and hollering, clapping, or cheering when they come back to the station. They sound like awful people.

 

I get what your saying, but this post comes off a bit condescending to me. These people are happy doing something they (and apparently you) love.

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It made me a little worried for what CoasterMania will be like.

 

There will be a variety of different types of people. No matter where we go in life, there will always be knuckleheads. Why focus on them? If you're friendly, you shouldn't have any problem finding new coaster/park friends that fit your temperament/likes, etc..

 

You will have fun, it's a great event!

But not as fun as Holiwood Nights.

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^^ I get where Zach is coming from.

 

While we have met some cool people at coaster events, we have also met several that displayed very awkward and bizarre behavior when it came to their passion for theme parks.

 

Not bizarre in a way to where I ever felt threatened, or these people were breaking park rules, but some enthusiasts appear like it's more of a fetish or a generalized obsession than a hobby...if that makes sense?

 

And I certainly am not making fun of them if they could have a mental illness or anything like that. As long as they are friendly, courteous, and follow all park rules, I am okay with it.

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^By chance, have you guys ever been in the Western NY Coaster Club? I see that is your location...

 

I've met all types over the years, but mostly nice. A couple that I seem to see everywhere, and it's better if I walk the other way when I see them. One particular trouble maker who... I don't know how they are even allowed in some parks anymore.

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Sorry if his has been talked about before, but today on three different occasions, I’ve seen a coaster stopped on the lift hill and a ride op run up and confiscate a phone from a guest who was recording. I saw it happen on Gemini, Magnum, and Corkscrew. It this a new policy or something? If it is, I kind of like it. Even if it makes the line a little longer, it’s still enjoyable to watch - and will hopefully dissuade more people from pulling out their phones

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^ As far as I know that's been around for a while, but it's probably gotten more frequent and noticeable due to the desire of every teen out there to snapchat every waking moment of their lives.

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^By chance, have you guys ever been in the Western NY Coaster Club? I see that is your location...

 

I've met all types over the years, but mostly nice. A couple that I seem to see everywhere, and it's better if I walk the other way when I see them. One particular trouble maker who... I don't know how they are even allowed in some parks anymore.

 

TPR is the only theme park/coaster enthusiast group that I am a part of. If the people you described above are part of that WNY coaster club, I don't see us joining it any time soon.

 

With regards to stopping coasters for people with cell phones, I have seen them do it on Maverick. The good part is that the ride op walked up the lift stairs where you could hear her scolding this person, confiscated their phone and was met with a round of applause when she came back into the station! Then she proceeded to issue the warning that if anyone is caught using their cell phone on the ride, that it could be cause for ejection from the park with no refund.

 

What sucked was that because of the launched lift, it took them about 10 minutes to get everything reset and bring them back to the initial launch point. We were the next riders up, so I had hoped that others gave this tool a razzing when they pulled back into the station.

 

Have to say that it was nice seeing clearly posted warning signs at Six Flags St. Louis where it mentioned instant ejection, no refund and if you had a season pass, you could stand to be banned for an entire year. Good for them, I say...I hope they enforce it too!

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Nearly every coaster enthusiast I've met in person at a park falls into one of two categories:

 

1) Those who seem to have a hard time blending into standard social situations and awkwardly talk about coasters with a little TOO much reverence, sometimes with borderline-sexual commentary. Usually I find these people pretty harmless, but some become awfully clingy, wanted to follow me around and talk only coasters when I display pretty clear body language that I wish to end the conversation and be left alone. I've also seen a few display behavior many would classify as "creepy" (think the TPR story of the guy who would hang around shirtless near the water park kiddie play area)

 

2) The obnoxious, rude, full-of-themselves kind with an entitled, inflated sense of self. Case in point - when I recently went to SFFT, I ran into a couple in line in Goliath where the guy happened to strike up a conversation with me and, once finding out I was an enthusiast, proceeded to bash nearly every park we happened to talk about, including how he would absolutely NEVER go back to SFA, despite his last visit being fifteen years AND completely free (he was a VIP guest with a friend or some bulls**t like that). Got pretty racist, too.

 

I swear, the only down-to-earth, normal enthusiast I've met in person so far is Josh (JRice) back when he visited SFGAdv a couple years back. Another reason to love TPR - their folks are truly the cream of the crop! Gonna have to meet more of you all in person at some point to help further support that there are in fact normal enthusiasts out there.

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The few people I met at East Coast bash a few years ago at Kings Dominion were awesome; but they were also very aware that not everyone at the event was as much fun. We saw people boo the poor park president over those temporary trims on Intimidator, and Robb had to yell at them. One couple in line at Dominator would not STFU about “millennium forceless.” No one is impressed.

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^^ You nailed it, Michael!

 

I have met the coaster nerd that claims to know everything about coasters like he was Dick Kinzel and Ron Toomer's grandchild. Then the ones that are just socially awkward or are just have nothing nice to say about anything. But to counter that, we have also met many cool people at the TPR events too.

 

^ Ugggh...hopefully Robb has weeded those people out, although I am sure that he did right after the event.

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Anyone have an update on SV? Flight leaves out Friday to Cincinnati for my 2 park CF trip and can't find any updates if they are on 1or 2 train ops since the new block brakes install.

 

Thanks in advance.

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They’re running one train. Even so, if you have Early Entry just go to the resort gate and make sure you get through the metal detectors and gate and into the holding area before 9:00. Once they open you should be on within an hour even if you just walk at a semi brisk pace to the ride.

 

We did that yesterday, and keep in mind that was a Saturday of a holiday weekend.

 

If you don’t have Early Entry, god help you.

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