Holiday World (HW) Discussion Thread

[cfc]

While I'm not a fan or Gatekeeper or X-Flight, I do rather like Wild Eagle; so, if Thunderbird is a launched version of Wild Eagle, that would OK by me. Plus, like Wild Eagle, Thunderbird has a very nice setting.

[mike541x]

Shame about the MCBR on Voyage as that was my second most anticipated ride at HW. When I watched POV for the ride, I was astonished by how much it was hauling ass after the brake run. It still looks like a great ride regardless.

[Woodie Warrior]

It just makes me more glad to be visiting during Holiwood Nights. The Thunderbird and Voyage ERT is going to be awesome!

 

Glad to hear TB is an awesome ride. I love Gatekeeper, so if this is far better than that, it should be incredible.

[coasterjunkie1975]

Booooooooo to a full stop at the MCBR on The Voyage but yay to what looks like a rousing success in Thunderbird. Can't wait to get back down to Holiday World in the not too distant future.

[KristenLeigh]

Seeing all the positive reviews about Thunderbird is awesome. I won't get to the park until June to ride it so I'm feeling pretty anxious about it. I'm actually curious to see how quickly the line will move as this is gonna be majorly popular this season.

[WildStangAlex]

How many cars are on Voyage today 6 or 7?

[Koasterking48]

How many cars are on Voyage today 6 or 7?

6. They will sometimes add the 7th towards the end of the season.

[NunChaser6685]

Thunderbird looks great! I determined I like B&M's so much because I find some of them relaxing, lol. Sad I won't be able to ride this one anytime soon.

[RCjunkie]

Yeah, considering the flak wingriders get it's extremely promising to hear people already raving about it!

 

It is good to hear people like this winged coaster! But I don't think wingriders get that much flak. I think that most people over react to so-so reviews of previous winged coasters and equate that with sucking for some reason. I have only been on X-Flight and Gatekeeper and found them be OK to good but not very good or great and people misinterpret that as I think they suck which I don't think that at all. I really like the shorter trains and track layout on this one though, looks to be a much more thrilling and fun ride than the other two winged coasters I have been on. May be time for a road trip to Indiana now.

[Thrilryder29]

I will say out of x-flight, wild eagle, and thunderbird, Tb has the strongest forces. I think people will feel the same way as they did after riding Banshee, when comparing it to older B&M inverts.

[Superbatboy]

That's really a shame about The Voyage, hopefully it's just temporary

[FilmoreISnAZN]

Just finished some great ride time this morning on TB and Voyage! TB was a huge surprise! The launch isn't super forceful, but it gives enough speed through the Immelmann that the valleys of the loop have some great power! Both sides have a bit different ride feels. The left side I found to be a bit more +force while the right side felt more -forces through the Immelmann and the buckle. Overall, great ride!

 

This was also my first time riding Voyage and, OH MY GOD, I was blown away. I was told by a few people that they just retracked a lot of the ride and it feels almost as if it was when it opened. The first ride was amazing with only a touch of trims. The following 2 rides were heavily trimmed. A bit dissapointing but the 4th and 5th rides were pure bliss. No trims. Absolute insanity and airtime monster.

[Ed Farmer]

Sad to read this about Voyage. Big bummer.

[kyleparks77]

This was also my first time riding Voyage and, OH MY GOD, I was blown away. I was told by a few people that they just retracked a lot of the ride and it feels almost as if it was when it opened. The first ride was amazing with only a touch of trims. The following 2 rides were heavily trimmed. A bit dissapointing but the 4th and 5th rides were pure bliss. No trims. Absolute insanity and airtime monster.

Pardon my lack of knowledge of the usual workings of MCBRs, but why trims on some cycles and none on others?

[DJeXeL]

Part of it depends on speed of train. An empty/light train will get minimal/no trimming whereas a heavily loaded train will be heavily trimmed.

The other part of it is PLC programming.

[FilmoreISnAZN]

Pardon my lack of knowledge of the usual workings of MCBRs, but why trims on some cycles and none on others?

As it was said previously, I believe their intent this season is to run it with the MCBR set to almost complete stop which is what we experienced our 2nd and 3rd rides. But somebody simply asked if they could switch the trims off and, probably only for such a quiet day like this, they switched them off.

[HolidayWorldFTW]

To be completely honest I like the brief pause in the middle. There have been times in the past where making it to the end of the ride was almost impossible. This makes it a bit easier.

[prozach626]

Glad to hear about Voyage. The triple down was painful for me.

[Thrilryder29]

Slow motion Thunderbird launch video.

trim.965FAC40-9C52-4766-83A3-ECDAE69613EE.MOV

[Ape]

The relentless ride is what makes Voyage stand out and why I like it so much.

[JJLehto]

Just finished some great ride time this morning on TB and Voyage! TB was a huge surprise! The launch isn't super forceful, but it gives enough speed through the Immelmann that the valleys of the loop have some great power! Both sides have a bit different ride feels. The left side I found to be a bit more +force while the right side felt more -forces through the Immelmann and the buckle. Overall, great ride!

 

This was also my first time riding Voyage and, OH MY GOD, I was blown away. I was told by a few people that they just retracked a lot of the ride and it feels almost as if it was when it opened. The first ride was amazing with only a touch of trims. The following 2 rides were heavily trimmed. A bit dissapointing but the 4th and 5th rides were pure bliss. No trims. Absolute insanity and airtime monster.

 

When you say trims, do you mean just the MCBR?

Well, this really is a bummer, sounds like there's no chance of an unrestrained ride outside of luck of the draw or apparently asking to turn the trims down lol and it's either OMG AMAZING or "a bit disappointing" depending on what you get. As your first time riding, is it still good at least even with them on "full"? Because everyone is saying you could barely make it through one ride previously, but it it's a letdown now...I'm not sure I'd want to ride more than once...it'd lose the point (in my book) of taming the ride if I wouldn't want to re ride anyway, Or is it still good enough even on full?

[PaTim]

Just finished some great ride time this morning on TB and Voyage! TB was a huge surprise! The launch isn't super forceful, but it gives enough speed through the Immelmann that the valleys of the loop have some great power! Both sides have a bit different ride feels. The left side I found to be a bit more +force while the right side felt more -forces through the Immelmann and the buckle. Overall, great ride!

 

This was also my first time riding Voyage and, OH MY GOD, I was blown away. I was told by a few people that they just retracked a lot of the ride and it feels almost as if it was when it opened. The first ride was amazing with only a touch of trims. The following 2 rides were heavily trimmed. A bit dissapointing but the 4th and 5th rides were pure bliss. No trims. Absolute insanity and airtime monster.

 

When you say trims, do you mean just the MCBR?

Well, this really is a bummer, sounds like there's no chance of an unrestrained ride outside of luck of the draw or apparently asking to turn the trims down lol and it's either OMG AMAZING or "a bit disappointing" depending on what you get. As your first time riding, is it still good at least even with them on "full"? Because everyone is saying you could barely make it through one ride previously, but it it's a letdown now...I'm not sure I'd want to ride more than once...it'd lose the point (in my book) of taming the ride if I wouldn't want to re ride anyway, Or is it still good enough even on full?

 

It's quite an overwhelming ride for most people. I rode it in 2006 and 2007 and I found it to be extremely aggressive with intensity, forcefulness, lightning-quick directional changes, and physicality. There are several other coasters like that, but the only difference is that the Voyage is very long. I heard someone describe it as "too much coaster for me" for which I found to be a good analogy. Personally, I absolutely love the ride, it's like it was designed with the attitude of if it's too intense, well too bad.

 

With all that being said, I think the stop on the MCBR might be beneficial to the average rider, as it will give them a breather. When I first rode it, while I was waiting, I watched back to back arriving trains have a rider run to the trash can on the exit ramp. It's on the same intensity plane as coasters like I-305 and Sky rush, albeit for some different reasons.

[JJLehto]

Just finished some great ride time this morning on TB and Voyage! TB was a huge surprise! The launch isn't super forceful, but it gives enough speed through the Immelmann that the valleys of the loop have some great power! Both sides have a bit different ride feels. The left side I found to be a bit more +force while the right side felt more -forces through the Immelmann and the buckle. Overall, great ride!

 

This was also my first time riding Voyage and, OH MY GOD, I was blown away. I was told by a few people that they just retracked a lot of the ride and it feels almost as if it was when it opened. The first ride was amazing with only a touch of trims. The following 2 rides were heavily trimmed. A bit dissapointing but the 4th and 5th rides were pure bliss. No trims. Absolute insanity and airtime monster.

 

When you say trims, do you mean just the MCBR?

Well, this really is a bummer, sounds like there's no chance of an unrestrained ride outside of luck of the draw or apparently asking to turn the trims down lol and it's either OMG AMAZING or "a bit disappointing" depending on what you get. As your first time riding, is it still good at least even with them on "full"? Because everyone is saying you could barely make it through one ride previously, but it it's a letdown now...I'm not sure I'd want to ride more than once...it'd lose the point (in my book) of taming the ride if I wouldn't want to re ride anyway, Or is it still good enough even on full?

 

It's quite an overwhelming ride for most people. I rode it in 2006 and 2007 and I found it to be extremely aggressive with intensity, forcefulness, lightning-quick directional changes, and physicality. There are several other coasters like that, but the only difference is that the Voyage is very long. I heard someone describe it as "too much coaster for me" for which I found to be a good analogy. Personally, I absolutely love the ride, it's like it was designed with the attitude of if it's too intense, well too bad.

 

With all that being said, I think the stop on the MCBR might be beneficial to the average rider, as it will give them a breather. When I first rode it, while I was waiting, I watched back to back arriving trains have a rider run to the trash can on the exit ramp. It's on the same intensity plane as coasters like I-305 and Sky rush, albeit for some different reasons.

 

Oh I totally get it, just I'm being selfish since I am not an average rider, and I was indeed looking forward to that "if it's too intense too bad" type thing. I mean, sucks for those people who had to run to the trash can every time and what not but well...that's not me lol so I'm pretty sad.

What is was like means nothing now, just curious what is the experience like now when they are on full.

 

And mainly just venting is all. Yet again I finally plan to visit a park (It's 13 hours from me, in not exactly a "hot spot" and during college and early years of work major travel isn't very easy, this is the first time I even can make it out here) and I may realistically end up with a disappointing ride. Or not, it may still be great even with it, that's all I'm fishing for.

[browr020]

Why are the generators still on site ?

[PaTim]

Just finished some great ride time this morning on TB and Voyage! TB was a huge surprise! The launch isn't super forceful, but it gives enough speed through the Immelmann that the valleys of the loop have some great power! Both sides have a bit different ride feels. The left side I found to be a bit more +force while the right side felt more -forces through the Immelmann and the buckle. Overall, great ride!

 

This was also my first time riding Voyage and, OH MY GOD, I was blown away. I was told by a few people that they just retracked a lot of the ride and it feels almost as if it was when it opened. The first ride was amazing with only a touch of trims. The following 2 rides were heavily trimmed. A bit dissapointing but the 4th and 5th rides were pure bliss. No trims. Absolute insanity and airtime monster.

 

When you say trims, do you mean just the MCBR?

Well, this really is a bummer, sounds like there's no chance of an unrestrained ride outside of luck of the draw or apparently asking to turn the trims down lol and it's either OMG AMAZING or "a bit disappointing" depending on what you get. As your first time riding, is it still good at least even with them on "full"? Because everyone is saying you could barely make it through one ride previously, but it it's a letdown now...I'm not sure I'd want to ride more than once...it'd lose the point (in my book) of taming the ride if I wouldn't want to re ride anyway, Or is it still good enough even on full?

 

It's quite an overwhelming ride for most people. I rode it in 2006 and 2007 and I found it to be extremely aggressive with intensity, forcefulness, lightning-quick directional changes, and physicality. There are several other coasters like that, but the only difference is that the Voyage is very long. I heard someone describe it as "too much coaster for me" for which I found to be a good analogy. Personally, I absolutely love the ride, it's like it was designed with the attitude of if it's too intense, well too bad.

 

With all that being said, I think the stop on the MCBR might be beneficial to the average rider, as it will give them a breather. When I first rode it, while I was waiting, I watched back to back arriving trains have a rider run to the trash can on the exit ramp. It's on the same intensity plane as coasters like I-305 and Sky rush, albeit for some different reasons.

 

Oh I totally get it, just I'm being selfish since I am not an average rider, and I was indeed looking forward to that "if it's too intense too bad" type thing. I mean, sucks for those people who had to run to the trash can every time and what not but well...that's not me lol so I'm pretty sad.

What is was like means nothing now, just curious what is the experience like now when they are on full.

 

And mainly just venting is all. Yet again I finally plan to visit a park (It's 13 hours from me, in not exactly a "hot spot" and during college and early years of work major travel isn't very easy, this is the first time I even can make it out here) and I may realistically end up with a disappointing ride. Or not, it may still be great even with it, that's all I'm fishing for.

 

If it makes you feel better it never really flew through the MCBR, so I doubt it negatively affects the ride too much. Your "selfishness" is warranted though, as I would prefer the most untamed version of the ride myself.