Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

[BigDipper 80]

I do have to hand it to CF for doing some great retracking work on their big wooden coasters. Beast ran phenomenally this past season, and Mean Streak has been a lot smoother over the past couple of seasons. But to echo everyone else, MS isn't a good ride. It's got a gorgeous structure, certainly, but it meanders in and around itself without really doing anything exciting. I'd be fine if they tore it down and expanded Camper Village or expanded Frontiertown further out and added a Splash Battle or some other family rides.

[coasternut]

^ Nooo, if they tear it down (I'm hoping), they need to add a GCI Woodie. I love the Blue Streak , but they need a good big Woodie!

[cfc]

^ Nooo, if they tear it down (I'm hoping), they need to add an Intamin or RMC Woodie. I love the Blue Streak , but they need a good big Woodie!

 

Fixed.

[traincrossin]

Blue Streak has more airtime than Millennium Force.

[DJeXeL]

^True story.

[rcjp]

^^ MF basically has 4 airtime moments, only one of which actually provides some decent air (the last small hill). The drop and two big hills didn't really give me much negatives when I rode it, even though it was running a lot better in the afternoon than in the morning.

[coasternut]

I'm utterly amazed looking at the previous 3 posts on Blue Streak. I've made this comment on my love of Blue Streak, and was slammed for it. It's my favorite ride in the park because of the airtime, comfortable seats, and normally no lines.

[kidcoaster 2]

^ Agreed with everything you just said, each visit I make it a point to ride it several times!

[coasterfreak101]

I remember riding Blue Streak last year at Coastermania, I think just after they replaced the trains over the off-season, and it was absolutely amazing. Much better than I remembered it from just the year before - it felt fast and totally out-of-control from the top of the lift to the brakes at the end!

[coasternut]

I hope they do something special for it's 50th birthday in 2014!

[cfc]

Blue Streak was running very well back in June. I was pleasantly surprised.

[BigDipper 80]

Blue Streak is my avatar, so I clearly enjoy that ride . It's very underrated because everyone is so tuned to assume that at CP, the taller the ride the better at is (at least amongst my GP friends), so many blow it off as a "kiddie" ride. Which is a shame, considering how great it is!

 

Going back to MS being torn down for a second, I agree that CP needs a good large wooden coaster, but I don't know if building one in the same spot as Mean Streak would be the best idea. Aren't there some GP folks who still think that Psyclone and Apocalypse are the same coaster? That doesn't have to be the case, but the park would need to make the new woodie pretty different.

[coasterbill]

The way enthusiasts talk about the GP you would think these people couldn't even wipe themselves. I highly doubt that people think Psyclone and Apocalypse are the same coaster. If they did... how come the line for Apocalypse is always so long when the line for Psyclone was always non existant? Unless the line consists of only enthusiasts I think people must have figured it out.

 

That being said, if there was ever any mass confusion about something like this then it would really be on the park for not marketing themselves properly. If Cedar Point demolishes Mean Streak and replaces it with a new coaster and they don't get the word out, then shame on them.

 

As far as Blue Streak goes, I agree that the coaster is underrated. It's always a walk on (probably due in part to it's location) and it's a lot of fun. We always ride it a lot when we go to Cedar Point.

[DanTheBooker]

^ Nooo, if they tear it down (I'm hoping), they need to add an Intamin or RMC Woodie. I love the Blue Streak , but they need a good big Woodie!

 

Fixed.

 

 

Lol. Have the Intamin woodies had any significant downtime issues? Not trying to be funny, asking a serious question.

[coasterbill]

Great Adventure is my home park and I go about 5-10 times a year and El Toro has always been open. It had a lift motor issue that caused it to go down for a few months this year but to my knowledge it's never had an issue like that before, and that could really happen to any coaster.

 

I've seen the coaster go down for half hour periods here and there but I wouldn't call it unreliable by any stretch. I would even say it's more reliable than Batman which is amazing since it's a B&M coaster but for some reason that thing breaks down all the time (never for the whole day, but for prolonged periods throughout the day).

 

There is absolutely no reason why Cedar Point shouldn't get an Intamin wood coaster. Every park that can afford one should go and buy one right now. They're amazing.

[coasterfreak101]

I'm always surprised there aren't more pre-fabs out there. I know they're a decent bit more than your average wooden coaster, but the overwhelming response from the GP after El Toro hits the brakes is something that no non-Intamin (or, I imagine, non-RMC) woodie is going to get you.

[BigDipper 80]

The way enthusiasts talk about the GP...

 

Having never actually experienced either Apocalypse or Psyclone firsthand, I made the mistake of parroting back what some members had brought up in the past about those two particular rides. Cedar Point of all places would probably figure out a proper way to market it, and I haven't heard of many cases of people confusing Texas Giant and NTAG, or Rattler and iRat. That being said, when I worked at Cedar Point, I had plenty of guests point up at Mantis and ask if it was part of Millennium Force, so mixing up two wooden coasters wouldn't be too far out of the question. I kid, I kid. Most folks don't go to parks to nerd out, and as long as everyone is having fun and not doing anything idiotic or dangerous, I have fun too.

[Rollercoaster Rider]

^ Nooo, if they tear it down (I'm hoping), they need to add an Intamin or RMC Woodie. I love the Blue Streak , but they need a good big Woodie!

 

Fixed.

 

 

Lol. Have the Intamin woodies had any significant downtime issues? Not trying to be funny, asking a serious question.

 

 

When I went in 2011, It was down for about 10-15 minutes.

[Aceattack52]

^ Nooo, if they tear it down (I'm hoping), they need to add an Intamin or RMC Woodie. I love the Blue Streak , but they need a good big Woodie!

 

Fixed.

 

 

Lol. Have the Intamin woodies had any significant downtime issues? Not trying to be funny, asking a serious question.

 

 

When I went in 2011, It was down for about 10-15 minutes.

Even though it's a wooden coaster, it's still made by Intamin, and Intamin rides have had a long history of a lot of UPTIME.

[rcjp]

I'm always surprised there aren't more pre-fabs out there. I know they're a decent bit more than your average wooden coaster, but the overwhelming response from the GP after El Toro hits the brakes is something that no non-Intamin (or, I imagine, non-RMC) woodie is going to get you.

Definitely agree. I was even going to say the same.

[Aceattack52]

I hope they do something special for it's 50th birthday in 2014!

It's probably not going to be much. A banner and maybe a mention of it on the park maps. 50 is a big year, though...

[singemfrc]

I'm always surprised there aren't more pre-fabs out there. I know they're a decent bit more than your average wooden coaster, but the overwhelming response from the GP after El Toro hits the brakes is something that no non-Intamin (or, I imagine, non-RMC) woodie is going to get you.

I see that reaction on almost every ride on Gold Striker. I don't think it's better than El Toro or Outlaw Run, but it definitely gets that "Wow that was so much better than it looks!" reaction. My point is just that it's possible to have a GCI or "classic" coaster that still wows people. Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk's Giant Dipper was built in 1924 and still gets that reaction from folks who haven't ridden it.

 

The best recorded example of that reaction is from Robb's video from Starry Sky Scraper/Scrapper in China.. you can hear when the train hits the breaks the people behind him sound so surprised it was so awesome its like disbelief!

Edited December 6, 2013 by singemfrc

[djboss302]

Maybe if parks actually took care of their woodies and addressed the issues maybe people would actually like them. Or maybe the twister layout is just hard to do without the ride becoming a death machine.

[GwaziBSRider1]

I hope they do something special for it's 50th birthday in 2014!

It's probably not going to be much. A banner and maybe a mention of it on the park maps. 50 is a big year, though...

 

I'd doubt they'd even do that much. There was one year that a lot of rides had anniversaries (2011, I believe), and they barely mentioned anything about it. I think they just gave them all special ERT during CoasterMania and nothing else.

[DanTheBooker]

I had a dream a few weeks back.

 

They tore down Mean Streak and replaced it with a record breaking GCI. It was the tallest, longest wooden roller coaster in the world. It was an out and back that went basically started near the current MS station, and wrapped around to the go-kart track the turn around was a 180° overbank.

 

Thought it was pretty neat.

 

I was doing some messing around in an app for another thread and thought I would show what I dreamt.