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^There are plenty, but not newly-built ones. They could definitely do it, with their commitment to guest satisfaction (fast-moving line). Also, in the case of this Vekoma or B&M junior coaster (even though it's someones imagination), it's almost more of a middle-coaster rather than kids coasters. It would be like the next step up from Woodstock, filling in the gap before Corkscrew (along with CCMR and Iron Dragon). I think this model would be very popular at CP.

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I know my kids would love it. A high capacity children's coaster would be wonderful for CP, whenever they do decide to build one. There's absolutely nothing this park needs--they virtually have one of everything already--but something like this would really do well for sure.

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I know my kids would love it. A high capacity children's coaster would be wonderful for CP, whenever they do decide to build one. There's absolutely nothing this park needs--they virtually have one of everything already--but something like this would really do well for sure.

 

For the average park-goer or casual enthusiast, sure they have a top-notch collection. And then there's the geeks. I know I know "they don't need to cater to us" or some tired line like that. Point understood, accepted and taken. But to some of us, they are missing some key things. For example, they had a classic wooden coaster then added ratchet lap bars, seat dividers and headrests. And although still popular, I can promise you it was a MUCH different ride when it ran as a classic until 1995.

 

Don't take this as a complaint (I know how much people LOVE to jump on others they think might be complaining, and then ... complain about them), it's just one opinion. I still LOVE Cedar Point and their collection. It's such a breath of fresh air to walk into the Point and experience a clean park with top-notch operations. Especially after going to some other big thrill parks.

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That’s a nice idea, and I’d love to see it come to fruition. Cedar Point really needs more family coasters. A Firechaser-type ride and a GCI woodie would round out their collection beautifully.

 

Cedar Point seems to be in the habit of building giant record breaking coasters, which has been bringing in the crowd. It would be more difficult to market a small scale coaster or GCI after years of bigger and 'better' coasters. In my opinion, the park has plenty to do for children and families, even if in not necessarily in equal proportion to their major thrill rides. Let CP bring in the giants, while still catering sufficiently, but not exceedingly, to children and families. Let parks like KI pick up the slack.

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That’s a nice idea, and I’d love to see it come to fruition. Cedar Point really needs more family coasters. A Firechaser-type ride and a GCI woodie would round out their collection beautifully.

 

Cedar Point seems to be in the habit of building giant record breaking coasters, which has been bringing in the crowd. It would be more difficult to market a small scale coaster or GCI after years of bigger and 'better' coasters. In my opinion, the park has plenty to do for children and families, even if in not necessarily in equal proportion to their major thrill rides. Let CP bring in the giants, while still catering sufficiently, but not exceedingly, to children and families. Let parks like KI pick up the slack.

 

 

THIS. I'm not saying we'll never see a smaller GCI woodie, or a smaller family attraction, but at the same time, when Ouimet came in, he really took a view of each park that looked at what their individual strengths were, and what their potential, and focus should be. And CP IS a thrill park. It's THE thrill park. And no matter how many "know it all enthusiasts" I heard talk about how CP "needed" to balance out their additions back about 5 years ago, and move away from large coaster additions for more family friendly ones, that's just not what CP is all about, and I said so back then. And the last 5 years have proven that, with the addition of Valravn and now Steel Vengeance. We'll see what the future holds, but as Zach said, when you set a standard with your additions of being "bigger and better", it's harder to sell something smaller to the masses. That's what the smaller CF parks are able to do, and have done. That's why a place like KI is able to co-exist well in proximity to CP, because it really is a very different style of park, with a different targeted demographic that it's focusing on - much more family friendly - so CP doesn't need to be.

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That’s a nice idea, and I’d love to see it come to fruition. Cedar Point really needs more family coasters. A Firechaser-type ride and a GCI woodie would round out their collection beautifully.

 

Cedar Point seems to be in the habit of building giant record breaking coasters, which has been bringing in the crowd. It would be more difficult to market a small scale coaster or GCI after years of bigger and 'better' coasters. In my opinion, the park has plenty to do for children and families, even if in not necessarily in equal proportion to their major thrill rides. Let CP bring in the giants, while still catering sufficiently, but not exceedingly, to children and families. Let parks like KI pick up the slack.

 

I kind of loved how the two children's coasters are right across the walkway to each other (and close to Mine Train and Gemini. . which are coasters "older children" can ride)

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Time to say goodbye to part of my CP collection. Lots of good stuff in here... and frankly, some bad stuff too! But I'm sure it will make someone happy. I posted it in the "auction watch" thread but figured I would also post in here where all the rabid CP fans are. Me being one of them.

 

Cedar Point memorabilia on eBay

 

Park maps, brochures, postcards, employee ride night flyers, etc. etc. etc., A few pictures of the goodies:

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^Thank you! It was hard work being a Blue Streak guy, but very rewarding. Completely manual operation. However popular the ride is now, it was so much better and popular back then... the changes made to the trains have completely changed the feel of the ride. Many a fan who "grew up" on the ride through the 80s can easily see it's not the same. Of course, they could always retrofit. It was a nearly perfect out and back woodie. Designed so well, it hardly ever needed new track - so smooth! We were expected to do 1,250 an hour, I think they do between 600-700 these days with all the "gear" that has been added. Not to mention air gates, and a ridiculous load/check routine (still light years better than most Six Flags parks, ugh!)

 

 

^Very cool! If I wasn't strapped for cash right now, I'd consider bidding, but I'll leave it to the fanboys. Why are you getting rid of it all?

I'm passing this stuff on because I have so much and it sits in boxes for years, or decades! I look at it once in a while, then store it away again. Much of it should be archived and displayed somewhere, something I'm not up to at the moment. Years ago, I threw away probably what would amount to a couple more boxes of stuff. Oh well! Live and learn. All those different colors of employee sweatshirts... they were donated so they probably brought someone happiness!

 

I'm keeping only my very favorite items. The original Blue Streak 1992 crew shirt was done by a friend who died much too early and unexpectedly in 2000. He was only 29. The hand made prototype he did and his personal shirt have gone down south to be with his parents. My crew shirt that is part of the auction was offered up to a somewhat important person at the Point, but I never heard back from them. They probably already have one stored away... well, I hope they do!

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1992 was the year my wife and I rode Blue Streak 24 times in one hour. It was in May and the only other people riding it were Cedar Point workers. We would take turns riding the front and back seats. Get off and then get back on the same train we just got off of. I think that may have been the first year they put the seat belts on it but no one was wearing them. I don't ever remember it being rough until the trains were changed out. Hate the new trains after riding the original trains with just the buzz bars. I've been riding Blue Streak since 1965, the first year my brother dragged me on! I was 7 years old and it scared the crapped out of me. My brother dragged me on again and since then I've been hooked on roller coasters.

 

Jim

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^I was probably working that day! Slow days before school lets out .. thank you for sharing that awesome memory!

 

As far as the seatbelts go... in 1992 we would announce "The seatbelts are optional you do not have to wear them." The very next year, 1993, we were no longer allowed to say that.

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