Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

[DoinItForTheFame]

. . . as Intamin seems to no longer manufacture them. . .

 

I'm pretty sure Intamin does still manufacture them. . . And there is a park opening one for 2017, so I'm assuming up until now there just hasn't been a park interested in one in a while.

 

Well, the only reason I could see on it leaving is to put a S&S/Intamin 2nd gen Free Spin. It would fit in the footprint, it would be cheaper to open and maintain and CGA would be satisfied.

 

If that's the case why wouldn't Cedar Fair just build an S&S/Intamin 2nd gen Free Spin at CGA instead of paying to relocate WT, and then paying to build a new coaster at CP??

[ytterbiumanalyst]

Sorry if these appear to be off-topic, but a friend of mine informed me today that Wicked Twister is being relocated to California. Has anyone else heard of this rumor? Or is it even valid?

This rumour comes from a recently published expansion plan for California's Great America, which calls for an Intamin impulse coaster that looks remarkably like Wicked Twister, including the unique double spiral. Intamin hasn't made a coaster like that for a while, and CGA is a fairly small market, so some people have speculated that Cedar Fair may be relocating Wicked Twister rather than purchasing a new coaster.

 

The rumour does have some internal logical consistency, so it's not completely out in left field. I doubt that Wicked Twister is leaving any time soon, though. It's still fairly popular, is as reliable as a launched Intamin usually is, and is in a spot that few other things would fit in. A Schwarzkopf shuttle loop, a Premier Skyrocket II, or a Ferris wheel are the only ones I can think of that would fit neatly in that spot; the shuttle loop would be considered a step down, and they've already got a Ferris wheel in basically that same spot. The Skyrocket might be okay, but it's not a much different experience and not really worth the hassle.

 

I'm leaning toward, if CGA does get an Intamin impulse, that it's bought new. They don't cost that much as coasters go, and the cost of tearing down, transporting across the country, and rebuilding it in the new location, isn't that much cheaper than just getting a new one.

[DirkFunk]

That plan goes out so long that Ouimet may not be CEO by the time much of it is instituted. I'm expecting that in 15 years from now on some holographic internet forum we bring this thing up as an archaic piece of trivia.

[CaptainUnknown]

I'd be for relocating Wicked Twister to CGA if and only if they angle the front spike like SFDK's. WT's double spiral combined with V2's angled front spike would be the ideal Intamin Impulse in my opinion.

[Cavs Fan]

Just kind of dreaming here, but if Wicked Twister was removed and that aquatics stadium was removed, we'd have ourselves a nice little plot of land on the beach there without having to build further out. That area is pretty dead as is.

 

But I also like Wicked Twister so I can't tell if I would want the above to come true.

[ytterbiumanalyst]

That plan goes out so long that Ouimet may not be CEO by the time much of it is instituted. I'm expecting that in 15 years from now on some holographic internet forum we bring this thing up as an archaic piece of trivia.

Nah, you know 15 years from now we'll still be talking about that damn boat.

[DoinItForTheFame]

Nah, you know 15 years from now we'll still be talking about that damn boat.

 

THE boat!?!

Oh how you will forever be missed.

[Ed Farmer]

Sorry if these appear to be off-topic, but a friend of mine informed me today that Wicked Twister is being relocated to California. Has anyone else heard of this rumor? Or is it even valid?

 

I really can't see Cedar Point parting with Wicked Twister. Compared to most coasters, it has a relatively small foot print. I can't imagine what the park could/would replace it with that would be comparable.

 

Also, I love Wicked Twister, so I'd hate to see it leave the park.

 

Rumor is false because it would be relocated to Dorney, if anywhere. Michigan's Adventure would get those tarps that cover parts of the queue.

Edited January 9, 2017 by Ed Farmer

[Vonni]

Personally, I'm on board for WT to be relocated. I don't feel like it fits CP and would be better suited for one of the smaller parks. I'd love to see what CP would continue to do with that beach front.

[Afterburner]

Sorry if these appear to be off-topic, but a friend of mine informed me today that Wicked Twister is being relocated to California. Has anyone else heard of this rumor? Or is it even valid?

 

I really can't see Cedar Point parting with Wicked Twister. Compared to most coasters, it has a relatively small foot print. I can't imagine what the park could/would replace it with that would be comparable.

 

Also, I love Wicked Twister, so I'd hate to see it leave the park.

 

Rumor is false because it would be relocated to Dorney, if anywhere. Michigan's Adventure would get those tarps that cover parts of the queue.

 

I hear they're going to use it to replace Stinger when they ship that ride off to MiA.

[CaptainUnknown]

Rumor is false because Wicked Twister would be relocated to Dorney, if anywhere. Michigan's Adventure would get those tarps that cover parts of the queue.

 

I hear they're going to use it to replace Stinger when they ship that ride off to MiA.

 

A. How sad would it be that MiA would get a cast-off from Dorney that was a cast-off from CGA?

B. Stinger=Vekoma Invertigo. Possessed=Intamin Impulse. Wicked Twister=Intamin Impulse.

[whatabeast]

We (MiA) already got a hand-me-down SLC, so................ the bar is very low.

[coasterbill]

Or is it even valid?

 

No, person with no credible source and 21 posts. It's not.

 

Why are we still talking about this 2 pages later?

 

. . . as Intamin seems to no longer manufacture them. . .

 

I'm pretty sure Intamin does still manufacture them. . . And there is a park opening one for 2017, so I'm assuming up until now there just hasn't been a park interested in one in a while.

 

Thank you.

 

PS: While I've seen the master plan for CGA, could they have picked a louder coaster type for a park where the neighbors are insufferably annoying about noise to the point where Gold Striker is now covered in sound walls and tunnels? Short of relocating an old school B&M I really don't know if it's possible. The LIMS on impulse coasters sound like they're screaming bloody murder, even when parking the train in the station at only a few MPH.

Edited January 9, 2017 by coasterbill

[Superbatboy]

Sorry if these appear to be off-topic, but a friend of mine informed me today that Wicked Twister is being relocated to California. Has anyone else heard of this rumor? Or is it even valid?

 

I really can't see Cedar Point parting with Wicked Twister. Compared to most coasters, it has a relatively small foot print. I can't imagine what the park could/would replace it with that would be comparable.

 

Also, I love Wicked Twister, so I'd hate to see it leave the park.

 

Rumor is false because it would be relocated to Dorney, if anywhere. Michigan's Adventure would get those tarps that cover parts of the queue.

[bluestreak]

Or is it even valid?

 

No, person with no credible source and 21 posts. It's not.

 

Why are we still talking about this 2 pages later?

 

. . . as Intamin seems to no longer manufacture them. . .

 

I'm pretty sure Intamin does still manufacture them. . . And there is a park opening one for 2017, so I'm assuming up until now there just hasn't been a park interested in one in a while.

 

Thank you.

 

PS: While I've seen the master plan for CGA, could they have picked a louder coaster type for a park where the neighbors are insufferably annoying about noise to the point where Gold Striker is now covered in sound walls and tunnels? Short of relocating an old school B&M I really don't know if it's possible. The LIMS on impulse coasters sound like they're screaming bloody murder, even when parking the train in the station at only a few MPH.

 

This is so true... I can hear WTs from the main midway if I really listen for it. Thankfully CP doesn't have ridiculous neighbors.

[thrillrider]

Or is it even valid?

 

No, person with no credible source and 21 posts. It's not.

 

Why are we still talking about this 2 pages later?

 

. . . as Intamin seems to no longer manufacture them. . .

 

I'm pretty sure Intamin does still manufacture them. . . And there is a park opening one for 2017, so I'm assuming up until now there just hasn't been a park interested in one in a while.

 

Thank you.

 

PS: While I've seen the master plan for CGA, could they have picked a louder coaster type for a park where the neighbors are insufferably annoying about noise to the point where Gold Striker is now covered in sound walls and tunnels? Short of relocating an old school B&M I really don't know if it's possible. The LIMS on impulse coasters sound like they're screaming bloody murder, even when parking the train in the station at only a few MPH.

 

I was thinking the exact same thing.

[coasterbill]

Thankfully CP doesn't have ridiculous neighbors.

 

When most of your neighbors are fish it does tend to cut down on the bitching and moaning.

[bluestreak]

Thankfully CP doesn't have ridiculous neighbors.

 

When most of your neighbors are fish it does tend to cut down on the bitching and moaning.

 

It's the only way... humans suck.

[Ed Farmer]

Thankfully CP doesn't have ridiculous neighbors.

 

When most of your neighbors are fish it does tend to cut down on the bitching and moaning.

Why would they if PETA will do it for them.

[DorneyKid14]

Where the hell is the boat?!?

 

 

 

sorry

 

Well you, webcam 1 is pointed at 12 o'clock. In order to properly see and/or look for the boat, Mr Tony Clark would have to position said webcam at about 2 o'clock to 3 o'clock.

 

Now he just has to zoom out a little bit.

[coasterbill]

Sorry if these appear to be off-topic, but a friend of mine informed me today that Wicked Twister is being relocated to California. Has anyone else heard of this rumor? Or is it even valid?

This rumour comes from a recently published expansion plan for California's Great America, which calls for an Intamin impulse coaster that looks remarkably like Wicked Twister, including the unique double spiral. Intamin hasn't made a coaster like that for a while, and CGA is a fairly small market, so some people have speculated that Cedar Fair may be relocating Wicked Twister rather than purchasing a new coaster.

 

The rumour does have some internal logical consistency, so it's not completely out in left field. I doubt that Wicked Twister is leaving any time soon, though. It's still fairly popular, is as reliable as a launched Intamin usually is, and is in a spot that few other things would fit in. A Schwarzkopf shuttle loop, a Premier Skyrocket II, or a Ferris wheel are the only ones I can think of that would fit neatly in that spot; the shuttle loop would be considered a step down, and they've already got a Ferris wheel in basically that same spot. The Skyrocket might be okay, but it's not a much different experience and not really worth the hassle.

 

I'm leaning toward, if CGA does get an Intamin impulse, that it's bought new. They don't cost that much as coasters go, and the cost of tearing down, transporting across the country, and rebuilding it in the new location, isn't that much cheaper than just getting a new one.

 

Yeah, apparently this stupid rumor is popping up everywhere but basically you nailed it but let's kill it once and for all because it's going to keep popping up otherwise...

 

The rumor comes from this graphic in their master plan presentation where they obviously used images of Cedar Fair rides that were similar to the ones they were proposing.

 

 

They included images of Patriot and Diamondback also even though Patriot looks nothing like Vortex because they just picked random images and put very little thought into it because it doesn't matter at all. Of course enthusiasts took these images literally and decided to freak out.

 

The entire presentation features generic ride images like this...

 

 

And this...

 

 

But nobody took any of these images which are EVERYWHERE in the presentation literally except the Wicked Twister image... why? I don't know. Maybe because they believe their own BS that Cedar Fair can't possibly work with Intamin ever again so it must be a relocation, and even though there are 2 other rides just like it on the chain they just went with Wicked Twister because it's most likely to stir the pot.

[Superbatboy]

A used mediocre ride installed an hour away from an even more mediocre version of the same ride. Hmmmmm...

[storms555]

Thankfully CP doesn't have ridiculous neighbors.

 

When most of your neighbors are fish it does tend to cut down on the bitching and moaning.

 

Apparently the people near by dont appreciate what they have! Heck I dream of living super close to an amusement park! Also if they knew it was going to be noisy not sure why they moved their in the first place! But yea good thing CP does only have fish for neighbors!

[Samuel]

A used mediocre ride installed an hour away from an even more mediocre version of the same ride. Hmmmmm...

 

Good launch, great back spike, and some strong forces...I know it isn't as complete as other coasters, but I'd never consider WT mediocre.

[prozach626]

Sorry if these appear to be off-topic, but a friend of mine informed me today that Wicked Twister is being relocated to California. Has anyone else heard of this rumor? Or is it even valid?

This rumour comes from a recently published expansion plan for California's Great America, which calls for an Intamin impulse coaster that looks remarkably like Wicked Twister, including the unique double spiral. Intamin hasn't made a coaster like that for a while, and CGA is a fairly small market, so some people have speculated that Cedar Fair may be relocating Wicked Twister rather than purchasing a new coaster.

 

The rumour does have some internal logical consistency, so it's not completely out in left field. I doubt that Wicked Twister is leaving any time soon, though. It's still fairly popular, is as reliable as a launched Intamin usually is, and is in a spot that few other things would fit in. A Schwarzkopf shuttle loop, a Premier Skyrocket II, or a Ferris wheel are the only ones I can think of that would fit neatly in that spot; the shuttle loop would be considered a step down, and they've already got a Ferris wheel in basically that same spot. The Skyrocket might be okay, but it's not a much different experience and not really worth the hassle.

 

I'm leaning toward, if CGA does get an Intamin impulse, that it's bought new. They don't cost that much as coasters go, and the cost of tearing down, transporting across the country, and rebuilding it in the new location, isn't that much cheaper than just getting a new one.

 

Yeah, apparently this stupid rumor is popping up everywhere but basically you nailed it but let's kill it once and for all because it's going to keep popping up otherwise...

 

The rumor comes from this graphic in their master plan presentation where they obviously used images of Cedar Fair rides that were similar to the ones they were proposing.

 

 

They included images of Patriot and Diamondback also even though Patriot looks nothing like Vortex because they just picked random images and put very little thought into it because it doesn't matter at all. Of course enthusiasts took these images literally and decided to freak out.

 

The entire presentation features generic ride images like this...

 

 

And this...

 

 

But nobody took any of these images which are EVERYWHERE in the presentation literally except the Wicked Twister image... why? I don't know. Maybe because they believe their own BS that Cedar Fair can't possibly work with Intamin ever again so it must be a relocation, and even though there are 2 other rides just like it on the chain they just went with Wicked Twister because it's most likely to stir the pot.

So what you're saying is that Diamondback is being relocated, right?.......