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Re: Valleyfair (VF) Discussion Thread

Postby RCjunkie » Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:00 am

CaliforniaPinto wrote:Am I allowed to post that I'm not surprised they went on the cheap as this IS Valleyfair after all or do I still have to pretend that I buy into the whole "VF is going to get $$$$$$$$$$ to get lots of stuff because Ouimet said so quite awhile ago"?


Sure, go right ahead. I was waiting to see what they were going to do with the water park expansion to see how serious CF was going to be with VF being a 'growth park'. With this announcement obviously it is not that serious and I am disappointed overall. I actually like the new slide complex over a Snake Pit because it looks much more thrilling and even I will go on that next year and get me back in the water park for the first time since the 90's. But the kiddie area is very underwhelming, local cities around the Twin Cities are better than that by far. With the removal of IMAX and Hydroblaster and possibly the old picnic patio I expected more. This is OK but not that exciting. If they would have also added a Tornado, or expanded the lazy river, or made a better kiddie area I might have been 'Wowed' but this just seems like they are just keeping pace to be average again. If they would have added a flat, removed the amphitheater or restored the carousel in addition to this expansion I would be much more excited but it just looks like CF went on the cheap with VF again. Just once I wish the park would get something thing that would make you go "OMFG I cannot wait to go and ride that!". This just does not inspire me to renew my season pass but I probably will one more year to support CF and see if they bring a coaster the following year. The good news is it does improve the water park (not very hard to do when your last in the chain) and it will be easily marketable and probably draw in more attendance which is good for the park and their ROI which is what CF is after at the end of the day. I think Looty summed it up the best in his post:

Looty wrote:In an industry that continues to grow and innovate, VF hasn't knocked any socks off since 1996. And to say that these waterpark additions are better than nothing is complete BS. Nowadays, people expect more and it's quite easy to take a look on the internet and see where else you could go and spend your money...in this case 3 hours east on 94 to visit some real waterparks. These new slides look like something Noah's Ark would have built 10 years ago.

It has been discussed so much about how VF is 1 of 3 parks slated for blah blah blah....and this is just not impressive at all.
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Re: Valleyfair (VF) Discussion Thread

Postby Coaster19 » Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:00 am

I am starting to get sick and tired of reading all of the complaints about these parks that put something new in. No matter what no one (as it seems) is happy.

If you all hate the addition so much, build your own amusement park, with exactly what you want.

I for one love this addition. Would it be could to see a large addition, sure. However, we got a much needed addition and it looks awesome!!
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Re: Valleyfair (VF) Discussion Thread

Postby VF15 » Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:07 am

Coaster19 wrote:I am starting to get sick and tired of reading all of the complaints about these parks that put something new in. No matter what no one (as it seems) is happy.

If you all hate the addition so much, build your own amusement park, with exactly what you want.

I for one love this addition. Would it be could to see a large addition, sure. However, we got a much needed addition and it looks awesome!!

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Re: Valleyfair (VF) Discussion Thread

Postby grsupercity » Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:07 am

Water parks are a big draw, it should be a good addition. Glad for VF
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Re: Valleyfair (VF) Discussion Thread

Postby danderson83 » Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:10 am

I know. It's easy for a lot of us to overlook the big picture sometimes, and just focus on what specific things mean to getting a new coaster.

Overall, any addition to VF is welcome, and can only help the park. And anything that is more of an attraction for the GP is good to increase attendance, and with increased attendance means a greater chance of us getting that new coaster.
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Re: Valleyfair (VF) Discussion Thread

Postby Mdcastle » Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:22 am

I think the difference in reaction is this:
Route 76, we weren't expecting much and got something decent.
Soak City Expansion, all the rumors led us to expect something spectacular and we got something decent.

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Re: Valleyfair (VF) Discussion Thread

Postby RCjunkie » Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:35 am

Mdcastle wrote:I think the difference in reaction is this:
Route 76, we weren't expecting much and got something decent.
Soak City Expansion, all the rumors led us to expect something spectacular and we got something decent.


I think with Route 76 we got a good new ride in Northern Lights, brought back a popular old ride (Antique Autos) that is all new and integrated with NL plus a refurbed Scrambler and Tilt-O Whirl. All this together brought life to a desolate area for the park with more room for flat expansions if they decide to do so.
With the Soak City expansion all the park got was a slide package (which I do like and think will be popular) and an underwhelming kid area (at least per the supplied artwork) that can be easily beat by local city water parks. With the removal of IMAX, Hydroblaster and possibly the old dining patio I just think most people were expecting more and that is why we are seeing more negative reaction. To me this expansion does not say "Growth Park", it just says "Were just trying the keep up with everyone else and nothing more." Of course I like anything new added to the park but this was not enough to get me that excited, Route 76 was better in my view.

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Re: Valleyfair (VF) Discussion Thread

Postby RCjunkie » Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:48 am

Coaster19 wrote:I am starting to get sick and tired of reading all of the complaints about these parks that put something new in. No matter what no one (as it seems) is happy.

If you all hate the addition so much, build your own amusement park, with exactly what you want.

I for one love this addition. Would it be could to see a large addition, sure. However, we got a much needed addition and it looks awesome!!


If your getting sick and tired of opinions or complaints I would stay away from the internet if I were you. :) No thanks on building my own park, too much time to raise all that capital plus the time and headaches to build and run the place. As always I will just vote with my dollar and reward parks that already have what I want. Unfortunately that is rides and attractions that VF rarely gets but most CF, Six Flags and Herschend parks already have.

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Re: Valleyfair (VF) Discussion Thread

Postby VF15 » Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:32 pm

After thinking about it, I think that VF will be having another waterpark expansion in the next few years. Even though I'm pretty excited about this expansion, the waterpark needs a bit more to it before it can really be considered an overall "good" waterpark. Another reason why I think that is because Carowinds got a waterpark expansion for 2014, they're getting Fury 325 for next year, they've already hinted at a new "splash" for 2016, and we're marked for expansion like Carowinds. I think it will probably happen in 2017 or 2018, but I wouldn't be surprised if comes in 2016. Hopefully 2016 is the year for the new coaster, but I'll be willing to wait an extra year if it means we'll get a good coaster. I think that our 2015 addition bumps up Soak City from "bad" to "decent", but another eventual expansion could make it a lot better.
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Re: Valleyfair (VF) Discussion Thread

Postby CaliforniaPinto » Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:47 pm

Every waterpark in the chain is getting the splash pad. VF wasn't even given the full Python Pit complex. Not to mention we have had it rammed down our throats that this year was going to be sooooo much more because Ouimet said so.

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