A.J. Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I was just on Kolmarden's Facebook page looking at the comments of reactions to Wildfire from April, and apparently, people over there aren't very happy about Wildfire. Everyone there is complaining that they aren't spending money on the animals because of Wildfire. The park responded saying that their first priority is still the animals, but that's not my main point. How on Earth can these people possibly be mad about a roller coaster like this?! Even though these people may not be aware that RMC coasters are mind-blowing, I thought that they would eat this up. I just don't get it. Contrary to popular belief, not everyone likes roller coasters. Also contrary to popular belief, some people like zoos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted August 26, 2014 Author Share Posted August 26, 2014 ^ People also just like to seem to complain about literally EVERYTHING lately. I'm just so sick of it. This is what the internet has done to the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolex Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Yes, I agree. Too bad they do. ( talk negative ) About Kålmården, I Think the ride is a good thing for the park. In a long way, its gonna give more PR, more visitors, more Money = More happy animals and people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF15 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Contrary to popular belief, not everyone likes roller coasters. Also contrary to popular belief, some people like zoos. I know that, but I'm just surprised that the original reaction was so negative. Even though this park is primarily a zoo, people will usually eat up anything resembling a roller coaster. ^ People also just like to seem to complain about literally EVERYTHING lately. I'm just so sick of it. This is what the internet has done to the world. Couldn't agree with you more, Robb. All of this internet negativity is just another reason why I'm losing hope in humanity . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajfelice Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Not to continue to stray away from the topic of the Wildfire coaster itself further, but a huge takeaway while completing my Marketing Degree was the pros and cons of the online world, particularly social media. With all of the great benefits of the internet and social media, there comes one huge downfall. The internet, primarily social media, gives a public platform to the complainers, and businesses now have to cope with a more public display of customer complaints which can reflect poorly on the business. Complainers have existed since the dawn of time, but the Internet has given them a new outlet to express their discontent. Unfortunately in our world, dissatisfied people are more likely to complain than satisfied people are to express their happiness with a business or product. I'm sure once the benefits of having Wildfire are realized, many of these naysayers will pretend they never had a problem with the coaster being built and they will have moved onto their next paranoid cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianparkfan Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 ^Very, very good point... In a way, however, just us talking about the complainers is almost as bad as the complaining itself lol. Anyway. Back on topic. This ride looks amazing! The first time I saw it, I thought of many people's "dream coasters" built in NL2, and was shocked this was being built. Can't wait to see all the reactions and POVs etc on the TPR 2016 Scandi trip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BugEyed Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Thank you for posting that ajfelice. With this recent batch of coaster announcements it's something that has been on my mind (and driving my crazy) a lot lately. Reading it expressed so well, and also knowing that others feel the same way, makes me feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil009 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Unfortunately in our world, dissatisfied people are more likely to complain than satisfied people are to express their happiness with a business or product. This is why I avoid reviews on google maps like the plague. Not very many people think, "I had a very pleasant and satisfying experience at that diner, I think I'll go give them a good review on the internet!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrlandoGuy Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Actually, while its a popular opinion for those who have the most basic understanding of marketing that complainers are the only people on the Internet, many outlets are changing this in big ways. A lot of review sites have implemented reputation systems so that people are motivated to review based on credibility rather than for the sake of complaining. If youre an avid user of a review site, you arent tempted to only complain, youre tempted to review as many things as possible to get your post counts up to achieve different "rankings" and then write your reviews honestly so you are marked up and "rewarded" with credibility points. Sure, a lot of one- or two-time Internet critics will write something online specifically to complain, but their low post counts damage their credibility and many sites are taking measures to make sure posts like this are buried under more honest, credible reviews. But OrlandoGuy, what about random Facebook posts with no such system? When you delve past basic marketing and into psychology, you will also begin to notice a trend for people to gravitate away from the general "groupthink". Certain people are more likely to defend something the majority shows disdain for, or criticize something receiving high praise, ESPECIALLY on social media. You can even see this sort of trend happen on this board. In the age of the Internet and social media, what used to be commonly known as groupthink is beginning to work against itself in quite an interesting phenomenon. Ive barely scratched the surface of these sort of sociological marketing principles, but they definitely exist. Not all people posting on the Internet are there to complain, nor are they as simple-minded as many might think. All that being said, lets look at this announcement. Its criticism could stem from many things--the fact that Scandinavian locals likely have little to no knowledge of what an actual RMC ride is like; people's general dislike of status quo change (in this case, several devoted fans may be troubled at a large roller coaster potentially destroying the charm of their original zoo); or the aforementioned anti-groupthink, where something that has attracted much praise combined with the two former-mentioned examples is bound to attract criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDG Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Looks like construction has begun... more photos here: http://www.coasterfriends.de/forum/8064-2016-neuheit-wildfire-kolmardens-djurpark-schweden-3.html#post159805 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 This is more exciting than TC and WC combined to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 ^Especially as (for me) it's a lot closer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBrylczyk Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Are plane tickets available two years in advance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_koppen Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) While everybody is excited for Wildfire remember that there is a Zierer coaster coming in 2015, they have started to manufacture the train in Germany. Looks like the theming will be great in this new kiddie area! Source Edited September 28, 2014 by _koppen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterschile Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Cant wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I think that even if the park had literally nothing other than the RMC, it would be worth a trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Has anyone seen this? (found it on Coasterfriends http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R897ulqjceA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 The kids area looks nice...will be a great compliment to Kolmarden! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_koppen Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Godiståget is up, and it looks great! Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyRush Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Who is the manufacturer for that?^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanTPM Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 ^Zierer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glouthan Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I actually really like those colors against the trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachclarke2 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Looks to be a clone of the Busch Gardens kiddie coasters: Must say I like those colors better than the Alpine Express colors. Nothing against pink though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Yeah, it does look suspiciously like Grover's Alpine Express. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRCT3 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Well, that's a Force 190... There are five coasters sharing that layout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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