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coasterbill
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That's just to throw you off before the big reveal that it's coming back...

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What year is it?

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Being a CLE local I've been keeping an eye on these projects.  The housing development currently under construction on the old Sea World side also looks very nice, and in an area with excellent school

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And some of you say your industry veterans. What a joke. If that were true, you would know of the importance of GL

 

If it were truly important, people would have visited it, and it would still be open

 

and the BD

Well here you are correct, Big Dipper does have an importance, it will make great firewood for the cold Ohio winters.

 

 

This is great, I can't believe I missed this topic. Had there been a plan at the time of purpose, I might have wished those involved luck, but I can't stop laughing at what is being done. Why the hell would you buy a wooden coaster that's been SBNO for a couple years(evidence that no one wants it), and then buy it without any kind of plan?

 

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I'm Bored.

Prince Desmond are you around to share your feelings on these recent events?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chris onnnolly

 

 

 

ITLLATENIGHT - Transcript - "That Pisses me off. That is sh*t. Those people are too effing stupid....... "

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Good call Scot.

 

 

I just donated $179.01 (a penny more than the total donations at .org) to the Anaheim Chapter in honor of PRINCE DESMOND. Wes, I wanted your contact info for this but my ADD kicked in and I just made the donation.. I'll forward your the e-mail confirmation.

 

 

 

I expect everyone reading this to do what they can!

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A note from Robb & Wes -

 

Hi, this is Wes. You may know me from my somewhat frequent postings on here.

 

Let me just break down everything that happened:

 

Over the weekend, my girlfriend and I went up to visit Robb and Elissa. At some point the conversation turned this very thread, which I admittedly hadn't been paying attention to. I read the thread and got the lowdown on savethebigdipper.org and their "plans", so to speak. I thought it was pretty amusing.

 

I personally have no strong feelings about the issue. I've never ridden the Big Dipper, and if Kat and New Zealand guy want to make their goal to resurrect this puppy, more power to them. Personally, I'd love to see the money go to more noble causes, but people are free to do with their money and free time as they wish. Most of the humor came out of the fact they were blatant in asking for donations without much anything in place. I mean, that first website was pretty tremendously horrible. Establishing a presence on Facebook or Twitter would have been a more logical first step than throwing up those pages. Their new site is certainly a step up, but when your entire plan revolves around asking people to send their money to YOU, it would be my top priority to present my business or project in a professional manner. I think this is most people's issue with their project as well, and I don't think we need to dwell on this much more. I have no ill feelings towards Kat or the New Zealand guy.

 

As for "Prince Desmond"...

 

On Tuesday, Robb pointed out that the .ORG people had not purchased the .COM domain, and he snatched it up and wanted to do something funny/wacky with it. We bounced a couple ideas off each other ("Save The Big Dipper...FROM ALIENS!!!!") until I came up with a sort of parody of a Nigerian 419 scam email. I fired up Dreamweaver and threw together an absolute travesty of HTML in about 20 minutes. Even as I was creating this, I thought I was going way too over-the-top and most users would click it, either chuckle or roll their eyes and move on. I never expected anyone to take it seriously, I mean there's a GIF of cats dancing and C&C Music Factory playing! It was just supposed to be silly, merely poking fun at the "professionalism/asking for money gap" I saw in the initial .org site. We even had disclaimers on all three pages that pointed out this was a parody. Prince Desmond was supposed to be an overly enthusiastic but dumb goof, and it was never my intent that his character was actually mocking Kat/NZ guy. He was more a parody of the 419 emails than anything else.

 

I uploaded the site, set up a Twitter for the Prince Desmond character, and went about the rest of my evening.

 

Well, it seemed to explode overnight. We had some people with some Google and Facebook ad credit that went to the "fake" ads, like Robb said, he didn't spend much on those. The Facebook page got set up, and then it was like a giant tornado of posts on here, posts on various other forums, tweets, Facebook posts, getting called a "Scam", seeing Robb called every four-letter name in the book, etc. etc.

 

I was working most of yesterday, and didn't have much time to check in on the whole, so when I got home, all I could think was "I created a MONSTER". I was amused by the varying reactions, although honestly...I was shocked people thought it was a scam or something malicious. It was a joke. I created it as a joke. I can understand people thinking it wasn't funny (we all have different senses of humor...won't deny that), but the vitriol towards it was astounding.

 

And today, waking up and seeing the fake Robb twitter accounts, etc, I felt like I was way out of my league. When I posted as Prince Desmond (keep in mind, not everything posted under the guise was done by myself) even when we were met with criticism or complaints, I tried to stay humorous and light hearted. It was fun to try to come up with dumb things for PD to ask or request. I would like the think the majority of the people understood that it was a joke. But again, the amount of mud slinging (directed at Robb obviously) over the past day has put me in an uncomfortable place for something I thought would get laughed off in 12 hours. I don't necessarily agree with everything Robb has posted in this thread on the matter, but I believe we're on the same page on the weird response this joke has gotten, especially with regards to how the .org people responded.

 

So, yeah. That's basically it from my end. If you guys have any questions, let me know. I hope some of you enjoyed it. I had my fun.

 

Also, if the savethebigdipper.org are reading this, I will make you a deal. I get paid tomorrow, and I will donate $50 to your cause. That's my way of burying the hatchet. No strings attached. I will do this regardless.

 

What would be great is if you guys would maybe put up a link to donate to the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation on your site. Nothing big or fancy, just a link to donate to CFF. This is a foundation that is very near and dear to my heart. If there's anything that's "truly" worthy giving money to as far as worthy causes go, this is it.

http://www.cff.org/GetInvolved/ManyWaysToGive/MakeADonation/

 

Thank you, or as Prince Desmond would say MUCH APPRECIATION FOR READING THIS LONG POST OF WORDS

 

-- Wes

 

1. The post from Wes shows the kind of class TPR does actually have. Yes, we are sarcastic people, sometimes bordering on mean-spirited, but we also know how to have fun and do not take this hobby so seriously that can't poke fun at each other and even ourselves from time to time. Clearly there are too many people out there without a sense of humor and could not see see that we were joking.

 

2. I actually *DO* believe that what we did in the last 24 hours brought more attention to the http://www.savethebigdipper.org site than they would have done on their own. And the more people were hating on us, the more they probably donated to their cause. And if anyone from that organization bothered to read any of this thread, I actually think they'd take away some learning about putting together their business and promoting it. The members and staff here at TPR are a very smart group and people can learn a lot from this group. As Wes said above, a web presence is SO important to any organization, and in a roundabout way, I hope that we helped them understand that and they continue to move forward on their own.

 

3. While I know that Wes' post seemed a bit apologetic, I don't think we need to actually apologize to anyone. If it wasn't clear by the loud website, animated cats, Nigerian postal address and midi C&C Music Factory that what we were doing is a joke, then you probably don't have a sense of humor. And I don't think we took the joke too far. The only people who would think that are people that can't see the humor in it. It's fine that if you don't find the joke funny, but know that nothing we did was personal or meant to be malicious in any way.

 

4. Why do I think we don't need to apologize? Because we wouldn't have had the opprotunity to create the parody site in the first place has Kat & Kiwi not made themselves such easy targets. I have nothing against saving the Big Dipper, but I do not believe the efforts made by these people will ever be seen due to the lack of professionalism the organization has shown. Everything that we did in the last 24 hours was done for the sake of humor and to prove a point. We made our point and got a good laugh at the same time. That's what TPR is all about. Remember the disclaimer at the bottom of the page. YOU NEED A SENSE OF HUMOR to be a TPR member!

 

Now the real question is what to do with Prince Desmond's site. Personally, I think we should leave it, as a nice gesture we will put up a bigger disclaimer and a link to the official site at the top of the page, but I plan to leave the rest of the site because it is damn funny and it will go down in TPR history.

 

To all of our TPR members, I hope between Wes and myself we have explained our stance and why we did what we did. The joke is over, you can all now move on discussing the Big Dipper rescue effort as we were before Prince Desmond came into our lives.

 

--Robb

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While it is apparent that these people do not really understand the internet, I applaud you guys for ending the joke and keeping it classy here before it did go too far (although for some, it seems, "too far" happened a little while ago).

 

Glad to be part of this TPR lore though.

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