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Going into the future, I believe a modern "large" wooden coaster would fit this park perfectly. Not necessarily 200 ft tall, but on a larger than average scale. It should have no ties to The Beast in terms of how it would be branded. I do know that the word "giga" has been mentioned, and I think a gigacoaster would be amazing. If a giga were to arrive, I think an experience resembling I-305, or something that focuses on intensity, would perfectly complement the airtime machine that is Diamondback. This coaster does not have to be Intamin, as I have heard about the unoffocial scheme Cedar Fair has with manufacturers of certain coaster types. On the long term outlook, whatever replaces that SoB should not entirely close off that unique area of land Kings Island is privileged to have.

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Going into the future, I believe a modern "large" wooden coaster would fit this park perfectly. Not necessarily 200 ft tall, but on a larger than average scale. It should have no ties to The Beast in terms of how it would be branded.

 

You can rest assured knowing that anything wooden built on that plot of land will be associated with SOB.

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Overall, the ride was just a terrible idea to begin with. They invested a $20 million budget into building this thing, had it take up space that could fit several smaller coasters and for what? A ride that lasted just nine seasons. (And only ran in its original form for six). I hate to think of how this would be now if CCI or GCI, or even possibly Intamin designed it (depending on if the prefab was on the market by the time this project was brought up. I doubt it was, but even a regular Intamin wood coaster is still better than most other regular wood coasters)

 

Although, they could do a lot with the space. I, like everyone else, am glad to see this go.

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A wooden structure that hasn't had any proper maintenance on it for the past 3 years and many sections of it are over 100ft tall, the way they're taking it down is the safest and most "constructive" way to do it. The design of the support system and the way that timber had aged, it just wouldn't hold up very well if they were to do a normal demolition on it, meaning tearing small chunks out of the structure using a giant claw machine.

 

With the way that structure was designed and put together, it always worried me that something bad was going to happen to it, and look what happens in 2006. I've noticed that all of the RCCA coasters that were built, the cross support boards are very far apart. The structures for them don't look very dense, as let's say CCI's or GCI's were, and they built smaller coasters. Son of Beast is an extreme example though, and since RCCA's other coasters don't experience the same forces and height, their other coaster are much better off than SOB ever was.

 

Now I'm not saying that the structure itself was unsafe, just that it was pretty much designed to support what it was expected to do, nothing more. It's no wonder why during the investigation of the 2006 incident that they wanted a forensic investigator to come out and do a CAD model of the coaster to measure the forces on it. Having a support beam break and actually splinter during normal operation, and only 6 years after it's open, means that something isn't right with the structure. I know they added to the structure after 2006 in the "weak points" where the structure experienced the most forces, and even did the switched to lighter trains. I think after doing the math after this last 2009 incident, the cost of keeping this coaster for much longer wasn't possible. This also gives me to believe that an Iron Horse conversion was not even possible without major support modifications and the cost would probably be the same as adding a completely new coaster.

 

All I know is that in 2000, all the technology to build Son of Beast like it should of been was there, and it should of been used. The ride probably would still be running, with loop and original trains. Sorry for the babbling, it's just that everything fits together in my mind on why Son of Beast ended it's operations prematurely and is now being taken down.

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I really am sad to see this go down. Although it was poorly ridden, it looked really cool and dominated the coaster skyline at King's Island (which is rare for a woodie). It can only make me hope that another wooden coaster goes in its place. I, although I know the chances are slim of it actually happening, am hoping to see a Gravity Group woodie similar to Holiday World's The Voyage pop up in its place.

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I think SOB was one of those "looks great on paper" type of things. I have to agree with everything Lareson said. I think back when the park was PKI, they wanted something to draw the crowds away from CP. A looping wooden coaster would do just that. also, from what I gather RCCA wasn't known for smooth wooden coasters.

 

The only reason I am sad is because it is the credit I never got. Now I get to wonder what will be put on that nice big plot of land.

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Let me first say I never had the change to ride SOB, but it certainly sounded brutal, and there is no denying ride certainly looked the part.

 

I've been reading up on it the last several weeks and when it opened it was intended to break and set all kind of records, which it did. However, I'm not sure I agree with the statements that if CCI or GCI had built it whether or not it would have survived. I use The Boss at SFSTL. That's a CCI that is by far the worst wooden coaster beating I have ever experienced in my very long coastering career.

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I always wanted to ride Son of Beast back when it had the loop, mainly out of curiosity. I was bummed when they took out the loop. I guess I wasn't missing much after hearing it was such a horrible ride. But I am mainly bummed that a ride that looked so visually appealing turned out to be such a dud. What a waste of all that wood and what could of been an exciting ride through scenic woods with record breaking heights if it were designed correctly. Hopefully Kings Island makes good use of this now vacant space with well thought out planning and a quality coaster/attraction design.

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Skip to 1:45 to see footage of The Bat roller coaster at Kings Island. Now defunct Arrow suspended.

That looks like a fun ride! Too bad it was a maintenance nightmare... It looks like it would have a chance to have topped Eagle Fortress.

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Skip to 1:45 to see footage of The Bat roller coaster at Kings Island. Now defunct Arrow suspended.

That looks like a fun ride! Too bad it was a maintenance nightmare... It looks like it would have a chance to have topped Eagle Fortress.

 

If Arrow had a tiny bit of foresight perhaps.... Those cars look like a wolf was throwing around a rag-doll. But yes, if the turns had been banked, and a number of other variables were under control, I think it might have been up there with Eagle Fortress.

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