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P. 2017: Top Thrill Dragster RETIRED!?!?!?

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So a small hitch in my plans for this weekend has occured. Originally we were getting FL+ on Saturday but because of family now joining us on Sunday we're delaying the passes. How screwed am I gonna be on Saturday? We get early entry thanks to the breakers and I'll give GK a few laps but I have a feeling it's gonna be croweded all day. My new plan is to ride a few coasters, a large portion of flats and play with my new camera Saturday then Sunday kick A$$ and take names with the FL. Does this sound like a decent plan to the CP regulars?

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^The only problem with waiting is weather. You never know what the weather will be like (or random breakdowns) and I'd hate for you to pass up riding stuff on Saturday and then get screwed over by weather or maintenance on Sunday.

 

We always tell people on TPR Trips that you never know what could happen, if credits are important to you, GET THOSE FIRST!

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So, a couple things. First, Harper. You're going to LOVE FastLane+ that was the smartest thing we did, and I won't hit CP again without it. Secondly, expect lines even during the early entry for GK. EVERYONE rushes there immediately. I would almost recommend just waiting until Sunday when you have the FL+ and you'll literally only wait like 15 minutes max.

 

Now, just wanted to express a few things. I just moved from California to Ohio, and since we had not time constraints for the drive, we hit SFFT and SFOT and got to ride Iron Rattler, New Texas Giant, and GateKeeper on our way to our final destination. Of all three new coasters, GK was the least exciting. I couldn't quite compare GateKeeper to anything, so I didn't, but as soon as we hit the brakes, my partner and I looked at each other and said,"we'll that was underwhelming..."

The ride looks so epic, and it looks like such a fun ride, but the overall experience is just nothing special. It wasn't force less, as some are saying, but after riding in the front and the back, we couldn't quite figure out why we weren't enjoying it. It was comfortable and everything. All was there for a great ride, but I feel as though it was a miss. The keyhole wasn't even an exciting element. It sucks because I want to love the ride so badly. Even the GP throughout the day in other lines didn't think the ride was very exciting.

All in all, good ride, just not very exciting. After the first drop and the inversion immediately after, the rides excitement does off.

 

So, there are my feelings lol

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I agree with above... Gatekeeper is a fun ride, but it was underwhelming for me as well. I really love the first half up through the keyhole, but then the ride fizzles out quite a bit. I don't really like the ending of the ride and I just wish the layout was a bit different after the first keyhole. I really dig the first few elements though.

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I don't think I could ever be underwhelmed by a Beemer because I never really have high expectations for them, with a few exceptions (like Kumba, Nemesis, and Katun). I think most people could've told you not to have high expectations for Gatekeeper, to just go in to it expecting a fun ride - even thinking you'd come out of it as thrilled as you were coming out of one of the RMC woodies was your first mistake!

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As a direct result of this thread, I was able to finalize my plans with Jessica for our three days in the park. Will be staying at the Maples Motel and FastPass Plus on Wednesday is all paid for and printed. Thank you TPR, for the great advice!

 

I'll be doing the Starlight entry Monday the 17th, a full day Tuesday the 18th, and FP+ on Wednesday, driving home on Thursday.

 

I am reading these reviews of Gatekeeper and I'm still as excited as I was for it the day I saw the concept art. I suppose I'm a rare breed, but I much prefer a ride with stunning visuals and the sensation of flying versus raw, intense elements. With some of my favorite coasters being Tatsu and Griffon I expect this one will be just what I look for in a coaster!

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About ready to visit Cedar Point tomorrow! I'm hoping that none of the rides will be down, nor will any be very long. Do you guys recommend beginning at the back of the park, then working our way towards the front? I'd expect the lines for the coasters in the back of the park to be shorter in the morning, so I might wait less for a ride on Maverick.

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Yeah go to the back of the park first and ride maverick... Later in the day mavericks line gets long and i would get millennium out of the way earlier in the morning too since most of crowds will be at gatekeeper.. Make your way to the front at like 1-2 if you want shorter lines up front..... Btw if its your first time riding gatekeeper ride it in the back left.... Its the best experience on that ride...hopefully everything is working and also get dragster out of the way quick too since it tends to brake down a ton for wind or mechanical promblems.

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First time at Coastermania, and second time at Cedar Point (First time was at Gatekeeper media day. Did that count?). Had an absolute blast on all of the coasters I got to ride!

 

*Gatekeeper's nice! Very enjoyable and fun!

*Somehow placing myself in the possible minority, my favorite coaster in the park turned out to be Wicked Twister in the front or backseat thanks to the launch, the sharp upward turn, and the *ahem* wicked twists!

*Top Thrill Dragster had one hell of a unforgettable launch and drop! It's just too short.

*I love stand-up coasters, but Mantis turned out to be a harsh choice because of the pain in my legs from the g-forces it gave me, probably thanks to the amount of walking I did beforehand.

*Mean Strak... didn't hurt?! It was actually just tame for me, that's all. it was probably a different story for the people that sat on the car in front of me, though.

*Maverick was, hands down, the wildest roller coaster I have ever ridden. It has everything I love in a roller coaster, including its compactness. It's not my favorite though due to me having to brace myself so hard on some elements. I'd love for it to have the I305 restraints, like what someone else mentioned.

*Raptor's a great B&M!

*Power Tower's drop tower was nice. The speed at which it dropped felt much different from an Intamin's, but it still wasn't entirely thrilling.

 

Other than the rides, the weather was definitely not the best, the seagulls still tried to claim Gatekeeper to themselves, and there were bugs... everywhere! Still, I had a wonderful time at the event! I LOVE the Gatekeeper fleece they gave us, and I'm lucky to even have grabbed one VIP fleece for myself when they sent us into a free-for-all trying to grab multiples.

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The fleece, and the army of Coastermania Attendees!

*To complete the trifecta of snarky employees, the announcer at TTD said "We paid $25 million for this ride, but only got the rights to 20 seconds of this song [TTD's theme song]"

I rode Top Thrill Dragster 5 times on Coastermania day, and hearing that song over and over again made me wonder if the guys operating the coaster were sick of it yet or not!

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*Somehow placing myself in the possible minority, my favorite coaster in the park turned out to be Wicked Twister in the front or backseat thanks to the launch, the sharp upward turn, and the *ahem* wicked twists!

 

Count me in the possible minority, I love Wicked Twister it's right behind Maverick for me at the point.

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I love wicked twister as well, the last row and the whip you get coming out of the full height of back spike . Unfortunately I haven't been able to ride the last few years, gotten a bit rotund in the midsection haha. I'm just glad I don't get the walk of shame on dragster and MF anymore.

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Wicked Twisters belts are a joke! No reason for them to be THAT SHORT! I've seen a lot of people that should be able to ride, not fit because of the extremely short belt!

 

Similar Intamin impulse coasters like Possessed and V2 have two clips for the belt, one further forward on the seat. Wicked Twister just has the one at the back, so I think it's more that than the belt length. Still weird that the clip is on the side rather than between the legs.

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^ I would think the only reason for them being on the side versus between the legs is so the ops could check them quickly without getting a handful of junk.

 

I'm very much looking forward to Wicked Twister on Monday night. I don't think you guys are in the minority at all, WT is gettin' some love! My girlfriend is most excited about Twister than any other ride in the park, she has never been so doesn't yet know the awesomeness of Millennium Force.

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I admit I'm fat but not huge to where I should be restricted from riding certain rides. When I tried to ride Wicked Twister a couple of years ago I had some issue with the belt though I just barely got it fastened and last year I had no issue with Vertical Velocity at SFGAm and Volcano at KD. I also had some slight issue with Raptor's belt, just barely getting it fastened which also happened on Alpengeist last year, yet I had no issue with Batman's belts.

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Heh, and here I thought WT lost its glory. It's unfortunate that many Intamin rides like these have to turn away larger riders because they can't fit. Also, the coaster has two seat belts latches, not just one.

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^Nice!

 

I wouldn't consider myself fat, or a lot of the other people i have witnessed not being able to ride! My issues are my shoulders and height. An extra inch of belt would go a long ways!

 

Didn't mean to be too abusive. It's just one of those days. An extra inch in a lot of things in life would help...

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Similar Intamin impulse coasters like Possessed and V2 have two clips for the belt, one further forward on the seat. Wicked Twister just has the one at the back, so I think it's more that than the belt length.

This is 100% not true. It is exactly the same as all other impulse coasters.

 

There is a reason that seat belts are a certain length on coasters, and I'd think enthusiasts would understand that. If restraints are too loose, the rider would be able to slip out. It's not discrimination against fat people, it's safety...In order to accommodate larger guests, the entire seat would have to be re-designed, not just having the belt lengthened.

 

Also, I've mentioned this a few times, but it's worth mentioning again: The seats on Wicked Twister are NOT THE SAME. The restraints have warped over time to where some seats will accommodate larger guests with ease and some won't even fit skinny people. The two seats I know are most accommodating are (Car/seat) 6/4 followed by 8/4. The LEAST accommodating being 4/4. Try it!

 

This may sound a little bizarre, but there are also "methods" to fitting into seats at Wicked Twister. If you're a "well endowed" woman, so to speak, either squish together or put one out the side of the restraint. I've seen it done. Also, men if you have a gut, lift it up. the most pressure you'll experience with the restraints is low on your stomach. Long story short, the more of your body you can fit through the front of the restraint, the more easily it will buckle. Simple as that. If the belt is still a little short, don't just try to smash yourself in with the restraint, it won't work.

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