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P. 2017: Top Thrill Dragster RETIRED!?!?!?

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This is my first time posting in here but I just wanted to say I went to Cedar Point for the first time last week and spent five days there. First off let me say I enjoyed Cedar Point but with that said, I was a little disappointed too. I went Memorial Day through Friday and the weather pretty much sucked. Cedar Point is a bunch of nazis when it comes to weather...they shut everything down with the slightest breeze...it's ridiculous! I was also disappointed to see Skyhawk shutdown. I hadn't seen it reported on any website so I sent an email to screamscape to let people know. So it's a good thing I stayed so many days, it gave me a chance to ride everything around all the bad weather spells along with checking out the water park and challenge park too. About the water park, I expected a little more...it was rather small...but still fun. But Cedar Point isn't known for their water park, it's known for rollercoasters...And driving up to the park for the first time was an impressive sight. It was coasters galore. Here's my review of them all....

 

Started with Gatekeeper first of course...a long walk back to the right for it to be at the gate too...lol. Now I have rode both X-Flight at SFGAm and Wild Eagle at Dollywood and Gatekeeper pretty much combines the two with a little extra...it's a good ride. And all this talk about the restraints, let me say I loved them. I'm 6 '4 and 250 pounds and they fit me like a glove. I wished more coasters had restraints like this...especially Maverick...because the restraints on that thing sucks!

Next would be Wicked Twister making my way around the circle and this coaster is fun. I didn't even think about this coaster being the fourth coaster at Cedar Point over 200 feet until some fun trivia at Millennium Force. But still, it's pretty much the same ride as other coasters like it.

Next would be Corkscrew and let me say that these are the worst coasters...not quite as bad as Ninja at SFOG but it still sucks. Regardless if it's a Arrow or Vekoma, they all hurt. Ouch!

TTD was next on my radar and it definitely lived up to the hype...By far my favorite coaster at the park. It was an incredible experience...but the weather can shut this puppy down in a heart beat which makes it suck if you're in line waiting to ride.

Magnum XL 200 is a joke. I was expecting a good ride, but ended up with bruised legs instead. The restraints on this ride not so nice. Cedar Fair needs to move this to another park, one without a hyper like Michigan's Adventure, and build another hyper here, something like diamondback at Kings Island.

Gemini was a cool coaster, I really enjoyed it. Didn't get to ride Jr. Gemini though...too big. However I did ride Woodstock Express...Kind of cool for a kiddie coaster.

Mean Streak was next...It was one large ass wooden coaster, but tame as hell. The front was smooth but slow as a snail...too much brakes. The back was too rough. All in all, this coaster just sucked. Rocky Mountain Construction could make this an incredible coaster if Cedar Fair would let them rebuild it.

As for Maverick, let me say this...it's a cool ride. But it's not "The best ride in the park" like people kept saying it was. Now it could be, but it despartely needs new restraints. It's a tortue device for your head during the "TWISTY" parts. The only way to enjoy this ride is brace yourself...and in my opinion, coasters are so much more fun when you can let go and not worry about a beating.

Cedar Creek Mine Ride was a good mine train...a lot better than others I have ridden. Most adjust your spine...but this one was alright. The only one I've rode that was better was the one at Carowinds.

Next was the one I was most looking forward too...Millennium Force. The one they claim is the best coaster on the planet. I disagree. Maybe in the top ten, but not the best. Really only a few moments of air time, it's really just about the speed...which is cool and Iike it...but I could think of a few other coasters better than it.

Mantis was pretty much like all other stand up coasters...suckage. I just don't like that B&M design.

Iron dragon was a cool ride...liked it a lot. Blue Streak was the best wooden coaster in the park...nice old ride. And last but not least...Raptor. My favorite inverted coaster I've rode so far. Montu has always been my fav...but Raptor is now the reigning champ.

 

As for flat rides, nice collection. I liked them all. MaxAir was lots of fun. I wished Skyhawk was open but no dice. Overall, a cool park. But I'd still have to say Kings Island is my favorite Cedar Fair park. It's hard to beat a one two punch from Diamondback and Beast. Not to mention they have a better water park too. But I'd visit Cedar Point again.

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Whatever you do, FOLLOW TONY CLARK ON TWITTER. He can score you front-of-the-line passes on either TTD, Millennium, Maverick, or Gatekeeper. We scored ones for Dragster after two failed attempts to get on. It definitely made our day. Thanks very much for them Tony!

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So could Maverick work with removing the OTS restraints and use only lap bars? I've never ridden it so I dont know what its like.

Unless you want a strained neck or lateral whiplash it would not work. I dont like them on any Intamin coasters but it is the safest and needed.

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Can anyone tell me how efficient fastlane is? Unfortunately, I'm only going to get one day to head to the Point this year and I want to ride as much as possible. Can anyone tell me the average wait times for fastlane users and the amount of rides they were able to get on in a full day. My only must rides are: Gatekeeper, Wicked Twister, Windseeker, Raptor, MF, Dragster, Maverick, Magnum, Power Tower, & Maxair. Will I be able to accomplish them all?

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^^ Depends on the ride. Most rides had a 1 or 2 train wait. Gatekeeper, Millenium and Raptor were about 15 minutes (the GP lines were over an hour).

With Fastlane Plus, we rode every single (non kiddie) coaster in the park - Some of them 3 times. We also rode several flats. This was in early May.

 

I can't recommend it enough.

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Just for the fact that you are only going once this year, i would get Fast Lane Plus! You will be able to get a lot of rides on all those! Wicked Twister isnt included in Fast Lane.

 

If you already purchase fastlane and decide later on you want the plus will they let you upgrade?

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Can anyone tell me how efficient fastlane is? Unfortunately, I'm only going to get one day to head to the Point this year and I want to ride as much as possible. Can anyone tell me the average wait times for fastlane users and the amount of rides they were able to get on in a full day. My only must rides are: Gatekeeper, Wicked Twister, Windseeker, Raptor, MF, Dragster, Maverick, Magnum, Power Tower, & Maxair. Will I be able to accomplish them all?

 

Buy fastlane + it's totally worth it especially when you have only one day to try to ride all of those, like mentioned previously Wicked Twister is pretty much the only ride not included just keep an eye on the line when you walk by and you'll be able to ride it a couple times (**Don't know if GK is affecting WT's line). FL will greatly reduce your wait on a busy day from over an hr to usually 5-10 mins. The longest I waited was about a half hour for Maverick last summer with a 2 hr plus full queue.

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Can anyone tell me how efficient fastlane is? Unfortunately, I'm only going to get one day to head to the Point this year and I want to ride as much as possible. Can anyone tell me the average wait times for fastlane users and the amount of rides they were able to get on in a full day. My only must rides are: Gatekeeper, Wicked Twister, Windseeker, Raptor, MF, Dragster, Maverick, Magnum, Power Tower, & Maxair. Will I be able to accomplish them all?

 

I just used the Fast Lane Plus last Monday and I can say that it saved us a lot of waiting time. The park was pretty crowded (90 min waits for both Gatekeeper and Maverick) and it cut down our wait for them to about 10 minutes. FYI, Wicked Twister and Iron Dragon are not Fast Pass so you may want to hit them as early as possible. Dragster and MF was about a 15 minute wait for either, but that really depends on how many trains are running. CP really makes it a point to have fast operations, so they should not be more than that. I was with a first timer and he was able to get all of his credits (with multiple rides) as well as many other attractions in that day. I should also say that the weather was perfect that day, so nothing shut down due to that.

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Can anyone tell me how efficient fastlane is? Unfortunately, I'm only going to get one day to head to the Point this year and I want to ride as much as possible. Can anyone tell me the average wait times for fastlane users and the amount of rides they were able to get on in a full day. My only must rides are: Gatekeeper, Wicked Twister, Windseeker, Raptor, MF, Dragster, Maverick, Magnum, Power Tower, & Maxair. Will I be able to accomplish them all?

 

I just used the Fast Lane Plus last Monday and I can say that it saved us a lot of waiting time. The park was pretty crowded (90 min waits for both Gatekeeper and Maverick) and it cut down our wait for them to about 10 minutes. FYI, Wicked Twister and Iron Dragon are not Fast Pass so you may want to hit them as early as possible. Dragster and MF was about a 15 minute wait for either, but that really depends on how many trains are running. CP really makes it a point to have fast operations, so they should not be more than that. I was with a first timer and he was able to get all of his credits (with multiple rides) as well as many other attractions in that day. I should also say that the weather was perfect that day, so nothing shut down due to that.

 

I was thinking maybe if we caught gatekeeper around 10 or 1030 sometime close to opening that the line might not be that long and we could simply just wait it out along with TTD. Or are the lines still pretty unbearable regardless of the time?

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You know...there's recently been a trend with parks removing Arrow/Vekoma roller coasters...I wonder if that means the Corkscrew will sometime be next...I do doubt it, however; Corkscrew is a good coaster for those wanting to experience their first inversion.

 

This has been bugging me for a while, but I was recently looking up videos of Maverick testing (2007; before the heartline roll was removed). What exactly is the difference between a heartline roll and an inversion? How does one create more stress on the trains than the other?

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You know...there's recently been a trend with parks removing Arrow/Vekoma roller coasters...I wonder if that means the Corkscrew will sometime be next...I do doubt it, however; Corkscrew is a good coaster for those wanting to experience their first inversion.

 

This has been bugging me for a while, but I was recently looking up videos of Maverick testing (2007; before the heartline roll was removed). What exactly is the difference between a heartline roll and an inversion? How does one create more stress on the trains than the other?

 

I doubt CS will be going anywhere for quite awhile. Theres a difference between CS and the other Arrow loopers. CS is fairly slow and very basic layout which probably isn't very stressful on track/train, compared to something like Viper at MM or Vortex at Kings Island. Same goes for Iron Dragon and Flight Deck/Big Bad Wolf, look at the speed difference between them. Iron Dragon is older but will probably outlast just about all the suspended coasters and FD will probably be used to refurb Iron Dragon when the time comes.

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I'm going to ark on the 18th and 19th of this month. I haven't been in some time, could someone tell me which (if any) rides have a single rider line? I'll be going with my girlfriend but we don't mind splitting up for a few minutes instead of waiting an hour or so...

 

Also, could anyone recommend a good (clean!) hotel that is reasonable and closeby? Due to recent car repairs I'm going on a budget and fastlane may not be an option for me. I can imagine for two people it is very expensive for fastlane plus.

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I'm going to ark on the 18th and 19th of this month. I haven't been in some time, could someone tell me which (if any) rides have a single rider line? I'll be going with my girlfriend but we don't mind splitting up for a few minutes instead of waiting an hour or so...

 

Also, could anyone recommend a good (clean!) hotel that is reasonable and closeby? Due to recent car repairs I'm going on a budget and fastlane may not be an option for me. I can imagine for two people it is very expensive for fastlane plus.

1) Very few. Maverick is the only one I can think of, but it's more than half way through the queue (In fact, its almost right at the station). Ride ops will yell over the microphone if there is an empty seat available at the moment, but you must be in the station to take it and it's first come, first serve.

2) There are a few cheap hotels within a 5 minute drive. I would recommend a CP hotel, but they are pretty expensive.

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What exactly is the difference between a heartline roll and an inversion? How does one create more stress on the trains than the other?

A heartline roll revolves around a persons heart(hence the name) and stays on the same axis as it entered. So your heart stays in the same general place during the inversion.

 

It was removed from Maverick because it was going too fast and put an excessive amount of stress on the train, supports and would have on people. The hearline roll is still used and in my opinions is a lot of fun cause it feels awkward!

 

Here is a picture with the heartline roll on the right opposed to another inversion

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Here is a picture from Wikipedia with discription in German! From Stengel himself?

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