Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

[Skycoastin Steve]

I was hoping it wouldn't be of the B&M variety, but we'll see how it turns out. Hopefully they take a cue from the other wing riders and put all kinds of crap in the way along the course to make the ride more exciting.

[Tbcoasterfan]

We can all rest assured that CP management is aware that they have already removed one family coaster and will be removing another. I wouldn't be "shocked" to see replacements for those in the coming years.

[Montu Maniac]

( From Facebook ) Cedar Fair stands ready to spend big money on a new roller coaster for 2013 at Cedar Point that will change the park landscape.

 

Code-named “CP Alt.Winged,” the coaster will have the “longest drop, run the fastest and be the longest ride” of its kind, Cedar Fair CEO Matt Ouimet wrote in Feb. 15 memo to Cedar Fair’s board of directors.

 

The total projected cost of the project is $25 million, a price that includes removing the park’s Space Spiral and Disaster Transport rides and restructuring the park entrance.

 

Ouimet was unavailable for comment Tuesday.

 

Lee Alexakos, corporate vice president of marketing, declined to confirm the information in the memo.

 

“We have not announced any plans for 2013 but we did announce a $25 million investment,” Alexakos said. “This will be one of the largest capital expenditures ever.”

 

 

 

 

Alexakos said that with any ride or attraction Cedar Point undertakes, the company is always looking to set records.

 

The Swiss-based Bolliger & Mabillard Consulting Engineers is set to design the new ride, which was described in the memo as having a “Front Gate Statement— a roller coaster that flies overhead, rolls and flies back— highly visible above guests entering the park.”

 

The firm designed Cedar Point’s Raptor.

 

A winged coaster is designed to suspend riders on wings to the sides of the rails so there is no track above or below the guest.

 

Engineering schematics show a proposed coaster with gravity defying twists, curves and rolls.

 

“Rob Decker (Cedar Fair VP of planning and design) and others have done a great job of creating a compelling, economically attractive new coaster for Cedar Point,” Ouimet wrote. “We believe this particular ride design with this particular manufacturer balances the desire for marketable innovation and risk associated with early adaptations of prototypes.”

 

Bolliger & Mabillard designed the first winged coaster for installation in Italy at a park known as Gardaland. The Six Flags Great American park outside of Chicago also has one of the company’s winged coasters, called X-Flight.

 

The new ride at Cedar Point could promise to be a work horse available to guests at almost any time they are in the park.

 

“Rob talked to operators of the first one in Italy and found no unanticipated negatives and very high ride reliability (less than 1 percent operational downtime).

 

Design plans show the new ride with a 170-foot tall lift that will fly overhead of park guests entering the park. It will have the longest track and longest ride time of any coaster of its style as it flies overhead, rolls and then fly back.

 

The huge roller coaster will dominate the front gate and the track will travel over a large parking area at the park.

 

“We have several coasters that cover parking lots,” Ouimet wrote. “Not necessarily ideal, but certainly acceptable given tight site constraints and the amount of land such attractions require.”

 

Disaster Transport and the Space Spiral both would have to come down if the site plan currently under consideration is chosen.

 

Part of the $25 million investment will also include renovations and upgrades at the park entrance from the parking lot.

 

Cedar Point general manger John Hildebrandt was not available for comment on Tuesday.

[Manic Monte]

I haven't been on any of the B&M winged coasters yet, but this sounds awesome!

[KDcoasterMAN]

From what I can gather from the story, the coaster will take up a good chunk of space...

 

EDIT: wrong pic

Edited May 30, 2012 by KDcoasterMAN

[jmicha]

Hopefully "interaction with the gate" means there will be a long, drawn out roll that passes either directly overhead of guests entering, or even passes through the interior of a new entrance building. Now THAT would be even crazier than the keyhole elements and would certainly make a statement to people entering the park.

[Skycoastin Steve]

I think interaction with the gate should involve machine guns on the side of the train that you can shoot at guests as they enter the park.

[ernierocker]

Hopefully, the restraints on this ride won't suck too much. I hate restraints that suck.

[Mr Clutch]

I'm looking forward to hear the B & M roar from the square base for the track!!! Sounds like uptime will be 99%!!! from Sandusy Register "and very high ride reliability (less than 1 percent operational downtime)".

[KDcoasterMAN]

Hopefully, the noodles on this ride won't suck too much. I hate noodles that suck.

 

post of the day

[Hilltopper39]

I think interaction with the gate should involve machine guns on the side of the train that you can shoot at guests as they enter the park.

 

That would make wait times for most attractions more bearable ever since fast lane screwed everything up.

[blade1]

I had a feeling this what Cedar Point would get. Hopefully the seats rotate. Xflight is really compact, so hopefully they can get the bulk of this thing inside the current park boundaries and not lose parking lot. I really feel that a wooden twister, either a GCI or Intamin prefab, would be better for this area, and then come back in a few years and put a huge B&M 4D where Mean Streak is.

[ScottyVizz]

Humbug! I was crossing my fingers for a Rocky Mountain/Intamin Plug N' Play, but this Wingrider could potentially crap all over the rest of the existing wingriders. Height, speed, obstacles, and right beside the lake...I can already see it being a favorite for many..

[OISU8P]

Next Cedar Fair Announcement:

 

New for Dorney Park in 2013 is Avalanche Run. A new thrilling alpine experience in a trackless bobsled style ride. The ride is being built in celebration of the 2014 Winter Olympic Games being hosted in Russia.

 

EDIT: ADDED SO NO ONE THINKS THIS IS SERIOUS.

Edited May 30, 2012 by OISU8P

[CoasterPrince]

a roller coaster that flies overhead, rolls and flies back

Sounds like a Vekoma Boomerang to me

[VACoasterdude]

And to think, a week ago people were doubting what I heard Matt say at the ACE dinner.

 

Sounds like it could be a great coaster with lots of exciting elements! A return trip to CP is definitely on my radar for 2013.

 

Regards,

 

RIP...

[Someotherguyuser]

First Wildcat and now Disaster. I loved Disaster Transport as it was such a unique ride. At least I got to ride it before it's getting relocated to Dorney as an outdoor coaster.

 

I agree with someone else that said that the park needs another dark ride. Without Disaster, the park will now lack a themed ride of any sort. They should bring back the Pirate ride in a more modern form or something.

[kidcoaster 2]

And to think, a week ago people were doubting what I heard Matt say at the ACE dinner.

 

Sounds like it could be a great coaster with lots of exciting elements! A return trip to CP is definitely on my radar for 2013.

 

Regards,

 

RIP...

 

Well now i'm sorry for doubting you.

[chargersmichael]

Wow! This looks great! I wonder what the ride name and theme will be.

[Meteornotes]

I think interaction with the gate should involve machine guns on the side of the train that you can shoot at guests as they enter the park.

 

This is the sort of thinking I approve of.

 

dt

[Intimidator305]

I wonder what the ride name and theme will be.

 

I'm also curious of what this will be since that is a very generic area of the park. The color scheme is also going to be a big deal since it will be flying over the entrance gates and will be one of the first things you see now.

[Skycoastin Steve]

^Other than Frontier Trail, what part of the park isn't generic?

[RaptorBoyASU]

Excited by the prospect of this coaster, but disappointed that they're removing a ride with no height restriction, and a coaster with a 46" height restriction.

 

Yes they will probably replace these with some sort of family ride, but I'm not sure it will be something the whole family can ride. They did eventually replace White Water Landing with Shoot the Chutes, but WWL had no height restriction when riding with an adult, just a restriction against lap children. They basically replaced a family ride that 3 year olds could ride, to a ride that you have to be 5-6 to ride. Yes they have Windseeker, but the whole family (even infants) could ride Space Spiral.

[DarienLaker]

Next Cedar Fair Announcement:

 

New for Dorney Park in 2013 is Avalanche Run. A new thrilling alpine experience in a trackless bobsled style ride. The ride is being built in celebration of the 2014 Winter Olympic Games being hosted in Russia.

 

EDIT: ADDED SO NO ONE THINKS THIS IS SERIOUS.

 

I don't believe it, until Cedar Point makes this official!

[rckrazy06]

I wonder what the ride name and theme will be.

 

I'm also curious of what this will be since that is a very generic area of the park. The color scheme is also going to be a big deal since it will be flying over the entrance gates and will be one of the first things you see now.

 

Well we can speculate green track possibly with the recent discovery at the B&M plant in Ohio.