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My closest park that could barely compete with CP is a 10 hour drive from my house (SFOT). I don't see what you have to complain about...if I lived an hour from Cedar Point I wouldn't give a crap about having any other parks close by. Count your blessings, dude.

 

To quickly answer your question, I definitely do take advantage of living only 80 miles away from Cedar Point (compared to other people which is much farther) but in this case it doesn't matter to me, I still really enjoyed my home park.

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The only thing I am worried about with Matt is this...

CP has been known for its great thrill rides. Matt seems to be more focused on the family aspects of the park. And I feel this might mean that we wont be seeing any great thrills as often. . And dont get me wrong, family attractions are very important, but with Kinzel here, it seemed to be thrill rides first, family rides second. Matt seems like he is more family attractions first and thrills second.

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^You just supported my point. Kinzel is portrayed, by some including the kid i was responding to, as someone who did bad things in the industry. Not sure why people are celebrating his departure from the business. He did great things and as a thrill ride enthusiast, Im grateful for all he has done for CP and the amusement community.

 

Ididn't say that it was a bad thing,at least in the beginning but I would have to say that it has gotten somewhat out of hand in recent years....I mean look at how much different & possibly better) many of the regional parks in the US might be had the two major player(SFI & CF) not gotten involved in spending millions on just coasters & used that same revenue to focus on other aspects of their parks.

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The only thing I am worried about with Matt is this...

CP has been known for its great thrill rides. Matt seems to be more focused on the family aspects of the park. And I feel this might mean that we wont be seeing any great thrills as often. . And dont get me wrong, family attractions are very important, but with Kinzel here, it seemed to be thrill rides first, family rides second. Matt seems like he is more family attractions first and thrills second.

 

I 100% agree. While I do enjoy family oriented attractions, thrill rides are what I really enjoy. It makes sense, however, that Matt would bring in more family rides rather than thrill rides. Honestly though, I really do enjoy Disney rides because of their theming. If Matt brought in rides with theming like Disney attractions, I'd be a happy camper. I'm not saying that I want him to turn Cedar Point into a Disney park, I'm just saying that if he builds more family rides I would be content if they were well themed.

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It's funny how I state one thing to answer a question and then say that I didn't want to start any arguments...yet people seem to still start them.

 

Anyways, I am also excited to see what Matt has in store for the company.

It's even more funny how you failed to realize that you were indeed setting yourself for another argument. This is obviously a touchy subject and it seems that you've been here long enough to realize that. I mean come on, did you seriously expect another talk about "Mr.Kinzel" to not draw ANY reaction at all, none? Seriously? After ALL the debates that people have had about this (that I know I've certainly had something to do with in some of them) and make their points, and then not say anything when the same "issue" is brought up again. It's this reason why a whole new thread was created just for this one subject (whether we should all hate Dick Kinzel for closing down GL.) So with all that in mind, DON'T start another argument like this that many people (probably myself as well) will likely get in to by stating something along the lines of

One of the main reasons why I stopped liking Mr. Kinzel is because he made the final decision to close down my home park (Geauga Lake).
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It's even more funny how you failed to realize that you were indeed setting yourself for another argument.

 

The only reason why I mentioned the GL thing in the first place is because people asked why many people don't like him. That's one of the reasons why. That's it, end of story.

 

Back to talking about Cedar Point.

 

The biggest problem with Matt bringing family rides like "Disney rides" to Cedar Point is this... Disney has Imagineers, Cedar Point does not.

 

That's completely understandable. It would still be cool IMO to see something along the lines of Disney-like theming in the park.

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The biggest problem with Matt bringing family rides like "Disney rides" to Cedar Point is this... Disney has Imagineers, Cedar Point does not.

What makes you think that Matt couldn't do the same? Perhaps not on the scale of Imagineers, but still something similar exclusivley for Cedar Point. Not guaranteeing that would happen, but I don't think we should rule out the possibility of a former Disney exec doing something great that has never been done before. Matt and Kinzel are very difference people, I don't think things are really going to remain the same once Matt takes over. Just my two cents.

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While Matt is the President and CEO, people fail to realize that Cedar Point still has its own team of management and execs (which have probably been the same for years) that will most likely be the ones making all of these decisions (not Matt), along with every other Cedar Fair park. People acted the same way when Kennywood was purchased by a corporate entity, like everything was going to be paved and multiple B&Ms and Intamins were on their way, yet nothing much has changed and it is still the same park with the same outlook and values.

 

In short, I don't see much changing unless a complete management overhaul is performed. Cedar Point will still be the same "Cedar Point, America's Rockin' Roller Coast" we all know.

 

 

Edit: And looking at Cedar Fair's website, Kinzel still remains on the board of directors anyway, albeit not as CEO and/or chairman of the board.

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^^ Cedar Point is already one of the country's greatest amusement parks, but IMO one of these reasons is because of the coasters, I agree removing only one coaster to build more family rides would be O.K. but CP is always going to be switching along to a different type of plan, which would either be building the meanest , tallest coaster or adding the mild, wild family type rides/coasters..

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^ and ^^ If you have heard something tell us who you heard this from and what position of authority or knowledge they hold. I doubt you heard anything from a reputable source.

 

In 2004 I heard from a nice lady checking my passes at Cedar Point that CP would be getting a wooden coaster longer than Son of Beast.

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Asking for a source is not being mean. You are in for a rough life, if you think I'm being mean in my posts.

 

If posters would learn to state their sources it would make it much easier for everyone to have an intelligent discussion.

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