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Did I miss something?

 

They are doing some re-tracking on a few parts of Mean Streak.

 

Personally I enjoyed Blue Streak much much more.

 

Blue Streak does have some really good airtime, definitely more than Mean Streak. I do like MS more though; I think mainly because it's a longer ride.

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Did I miss something?

 

They are doing some re-tracking on a few parts of Mean Streak.

 

In that case, that is nothing more than routine maintenance done every off season as part of Mean Streak's yearly upkeep. As is the replacement of any other structural supports wherever needed. I highly doubt anything noticeable will be performed, and Mean Streak will ride exactly the same in 2012 as it did in 2011.

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I rode it for the first time in this summer, I didnt think it was a bad ride at all. Ill admit its a bit rough, but its nowhere near as rough as some of the woodies ive ridden in the past. I remember thinking that it was a shame that no one is riding it, since it was as good as the boss and that ride always has a one of the longest lines at my home park.

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^Seconded. The first drop and fan turn didn't jackhammer for the first time in a while, but even that can't save it from simply meandering around and not doing anything. At least it's got an impressive structure to look at; I only wish that it did something.

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It truly is a beautiful structure to look at and having ridden it opening year, I couldn't agree more that it just meanders through the course. At least opening year, it was faster, but no less thrilling than it is today. It's a shame the ride is so bad, and hope it gets a topper track make-over cause in my opinion, it truly could be a thrilling ride with a major make-over.

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It truly is a beautiful structure to look at and having ridden it opening year, I couldn't agree more that it just meanders through the course. At least opening year, it was faster, but no less thrilling than it is today. It's a shame the ride is so bad, and hope it gets a topper track make-over cause in my opinion, it truly could be a thrilling ride with a major make-over.

 

A total transformation might help, the layout just sux.

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^Yes, we are aware, but routine maintenance can still improve the quality of a coaster. The track they replaced last year has really helped as well.

 

Mean Streak is going to "improve" the same amount it did last year. It's the same routine maintenance that has been done over the past X amount of years, and it rides the same every year. Nothing is going to change with Mean Streak unless something astronomical is done, like an NTAG makeover. Sure it will be "less jerky" in some spots here and there, but it's still the same Mean Streak as last year.

 

My point is, some are acting as if it is getting this new revolutionary "retracking" that is going to drastically change the ride, when in reality it's just the same routine maintenance that has been done every offseason for probably the past 10 years, if not more. This retracking is just as significant as seeing someone welding the track on one of Cedar Point's steel coasters.

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This retracking is just as significant as seeing someone welding the track on one of Cedar Point's steel coasters.

 

Apparently you didn't ride Mean Streak last season then because where they did the re-tracking for last year is really noticeable. If they keep this up, the whole coaster should be pretty smooth.

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This retracking is just as significant as seeing someone welding the track on one of Cedar Point's steel coasters.

 

Apparently you didn't ride Mean Streak last season then because where they did the re-tracking for last year is really noticeable. If they keep this up, the whole coaster should be pretty smooth.

 

lol like all of the 1000ft they did? Then it was rough by end of year? Yea, I noticed it was better.

 

It still is braked heavily and thus, loses the ONLY thing it had going for it, speed. That ride has no airtime and little lats. It was meant to be big and go fast. The fast has been taken away and as a result, its not only slow but pretty rough.

 

 

The maintenance done is usually only enough to fix a few rough areas. But soon as those are fixed, new ones pop up. This design is flawed and failed. It needs to be torn down or redesigned (like NTG)

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The maintenance done is usually only enough to fix a few rough areas. But soon as those are fixed, new ones pop up. This design is flawed and failed. It needs to be torn down or redesigned (like NTAG)

 

Just torn down is OK by me

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It needs to be torn down or redesigned (like NTAG)

 

Just torn down is OK by me

 

Most people need to realize that Cedar Point is not going to tear down Mean Streak any time soon. If they are planning on tearing it down soon, why would they be going to these great lengths to re-track a lot of the track? It's not just 'seasonal maintenance' because seasonal maintenance is just fixing something here or there, not a big bulk of track at one time like what they are currently doing. While many people would like Cedar Point to tear down Mean Streak, the reality is that the coaster is staying for a while.

 

Even if they did tear down Mean Streak, think about it this way. Between tearing down Mean Streak and building a new coaster in its place, it would take about what? 2 full years to complete? That means Cedar Point's coaster count would go down by one and that would most certainly start a riot about how SFMM would have more and blah blah blah.

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It's not just 'seasonal maintenance' because seasonal maintenance is just fixing something here or there, not a big bulk of track at one time like what they are currently doing.

No, not seasonal, but very necessary. And yes I agree, it will most likely be around for a while longer. It still brings in enough riders to be considered popular to keep; just as all the coasters most enthusiasts dislike do.

 

The maintenance done is usually only enough to fix a few rough areas. But soon as those are fixed, new ones pop up. This design is flawed and failed.

I think it has a lot more to do with the integrity of the wood that has been there for so long than making the coaster smooth. Hence why they are replacing a great deal of the structure as well.

 

It still is braked heavily and thus, loses the ONLY thing it had going for it, speed. That ride has no airtime and little lats. It was meant to be big and go fast. The fast has been taken away and as a result, its not only slow but pretty rough.

Yes! This is the same reason I dislike it most of the time. Minus those lucky trimless rides every now and then...

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It still brings in enough riders to be considered popular to keep; just as all the coasters most enthusiasts dislike do.

 

Or the fact that it is simply more economical right now to just leave it standing, rather than to pay an absurd amount of money to dismantle it (i.e. Son of Beast).

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Between tearing down Mean Streak and building a new coaster in its place, it would take about what? 2 full years to complete? That means Cedar Point's coaster count would go down by one and that would most certainly start a riot about how SFMM would have more and blah blah blah.

 

this makes me laugh. 1 full year to dismantle a ride? Why would you dismantle it? You think someone else is going to buy it? Demolition of a ride like that would be easy and a lot quicker than you think. Its called a few big pieces of machinery and possibly a wrecking ball if needed. It would only take a long time if you intended to resell it. Good luck finding someone to relocate that thing.

 

And we know that a ride in its place takes 1 winter to complete.

 

 

I also really, really doubt that the ride draws people. I am there 15-20 times a year, all seasons, weekdays and weekends and Ive even been there on some of the busiest days and the ride will have a 15min wait. It has literally zero ridership. Someone who op's it needs to verify my belief here with some numbers but I am almost 99% sure the ridership on that ride has plummeted in recent years.

 

 

I dont look at this from an enthusiast perspective. The only reason anyone is back in that part of the park is Maverick. Before that, no one was back there. Even then, Mean Streak didnt draw anyone. Financially, yes its a bit of money up front. But I still see the long term gain by installing something like a GCI or a TGG with Timberliners being far better for the park. It would mean the back area gets a new look. Fresh paint, fresh design. New, more realiable coaster. Saves money on maintenance. Draw more people and get more people to walk all the way around the park, spending more money on souveniers and food.

 

 

I look at it from the perspective of money. What is there to be gained. In this case - a lot. Right now, its a rotting shell of its former self. Most people do not like it, nor do they go out of their way to ride it. The reputation it has spans all peoples, enthusiast and once a year park goer.

 

They destroyed Hercules in about a years time and that had a whole section over water. Mean Streak being somewhat compact layout - thats an easy demo. Collapse on itself, bring in haulers, truck it away. Clean area, prep it and it could sit for a year and the new ride could be installed the next year.

 

I really dont think at this point the "most coasters" race is as focused on. If it were, Cedar Fair would have kept up with SFMM. Right now, with this economy, its about making PROFITS and securing long term cash flow. Capital expenditures that generate money (like water park additions/expansions) and quality rides. MS is not a quality ride. No one goes there specifically to ride it. I can however name people who specifically go to ride Raptor, TTD, MF, Magnum, Maverick, even Mantis. MS doesnt have that appeal.

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I really dont think at this point the "most coasters" race is as focused on. If it were, Cedar Fair would have kept up with SFMM. Right now, with this economy, its about making PROFITS and securing long term cash flow. Capital expenditures that generate money (like water park additions/expansions) and quality rides. MS is not a quality ride. No one goes there specifically to ride it. I can however name people who specifically go to ride Raptor, TTD, MF, Magnum, Maverick, even Mantis. MS doesnt have that appeal.

Agreed, the 'coaster wars' have basically been over for a while. In my opinion the number of coasters isn't what makes a park at all, and I think a lot more people are starting to see it that way.

 

When all coasters at CP come to mind, the one with lowest ridership/popularity is most likely Mine Ride. Why isn't anybody talking about tearing that down? It's not that people go specifically to ride certain coasters, it's that a fair amount of people actually enjoy them, yes even Mean Streak. It is rough, but that's the image the coaster as a whole portrays anyway. The only reason there are so many coasters people go to Cedar Point to specifically ride, is because it's Cedar Point. They break records and make great coasters. They're not just going to tear another one down because it's not at the same level as the others, that's ridiculous.

 

Also, to me, the Voyage was much rougher than Mean Streak, and it still ranks as my favorite wooden roller coaster.

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coasterlover - MineRide is a transitional ride. Its there to transition that younger generation into bigger rides - thats why it wont go anywhere.

 

Voyage is rougher but it actually thrills. It has airtime. It has everything (And lately, a dose of pain to go with it sadly) But Mean Streak doesnt give you anything to take away the pain. No great moments of airtime. No thrilling tunnels, etc.

 

 

Again, Dorney tore down one maintenance/eyesore and installed something that costs less to maintain and brings in more people. Cedar Point could do this easily. They could install a GCI that would last 5-6 years without replacing a single board, be smooth as silk, thrilling and fun and still have reasonable cost and increase ticket sales and people to the back of the park.

 

No one said theyd tear one down because its on the same level. Its all money related. You tear it down to install a ride that brings in more money, costs less to maintain (makes more money) and leaves your guests enjoying your park even more (again, makes more money).

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I'm one of the very few people left that truly enjoys Mean Streak but, and this is a big but (hehe "big but" ), Real just changed my mind. As much as I would hate to see it go, I would be perfectly fine with the removal of MS if I knew they were replacing it with a GCI or GG monster.

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