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Great pics! Assuming the MCBR doesn't kill off too much speed, (not ridden NTG but I've heard more than a few feel it scrubs off too much speed) this could easily be the baddest RMC yet. So glad the biggest will be at CP as it should be!

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It looks just....lovely so far.

 

 

Maybe they'll let us ride the part that's finished when we're there in 10 days?

 

After all the horrible things I did in RCT, guess it's only fair

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Great pics! Assuming the MCBR doesn't kill off too much speed, (not ridden NTAG but I've heard more than a few feel it scrubs off too much speed) this could easily be the baddest RMC yet. So glad the biggest will be at CP as it should be!

 

I don't know how anyone who has ridden NTG could feel that the MCBR takes off too much speed. Half the time you barely even know you're going through the MCBR (aside from the flat track) Of the 200+ times I've been on the coaster I've never felt the MCBR "grab." (You can tell from the POV below that the train flies through the MCBR!) I'm assuming New Mean Streak will be the same way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zTKtho3ZJI

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he was probably just trying to diffuse a situation before it escalated further and he had to figure out what to do on the fly. Was that the right way to handle it? No. But this was someone who just started a new seasonal job, most likely doesn't get paid enough for this sh*t and probably didn't want to be confrontational with that guy either... he probably just wanted to diffuse things and had no clue how to do so.

 

I just imagine some poor kid who was put into a situation for the first time and had no idea what to do. I always try to extend the benefit of the doubt before shaming them. It sucks to be blindsided by a situation like this, have to make a quick response, and then be judged by people who will be able to take time and analyze what you did right or wrong.

 

Anyways, can we move on to rollercoasters before this devolves?

 

The bartender might have been put in an unanticipated awkward position early in the season, but this was about people skills, and not about not knowing where the rocks glasses are kept or him being imagined as a pitiable poor kid. He wasn't the victim or the culprit, but he should be better educated on what to do. There were alternative reactions the bartender could have had, which includes at least apologizing privately to the offended guests. This could signal a responsibility gap in training that might be remedied by the park more thoroughly considering these kinds of uncomfortable scenarios & teaching employees on how to better handle them. It might also entail a need for the park to be more transparent in spelling out some basic social values for employees to uphold and guests to exhibit.

 

I love seeing the RMC updates, but this is actually a pretty darn valuable discussion.

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I feel like you overreacted a bit. Then again, I couldn't care less what some guy at a bar says about me. I probably would have laughed and agreed with whatever was said. Maybe even added to it a bit. Ignorance isn't going to be solved by confrontation, that usually just makes it worse. Look at all the ignorant people rioting because they don't agree with the president. It's not solving anything and just makes them look hysterical.

 

 

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess by your reply that you are a 20-40 year old straight male white dude?

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^^ Well, I'm kind of hoping for a "near-close-up tour," but you never know.

 

not COUNTING on it..but for Coastermania!. . I'd be shocked if there wasn't something (even just a Q&A) about Mean Streak.

 

either way. . 10 days! (and will actually BE there in 9)

 

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Ignorance isn't going to be solved by confrontation, that usually just makes it worse.

 

Ignorance is DEFINITELY not going to be solved with "haha guess so" remarks from the bartender... Maybe some people can't just laugh it off so easily. It sucks to feel criticized and made fun of, especially in public. Have some empathy

 

Look at all the ignorant people rioting because they don't agree with the president. It's not solving anything and just makes them look hysterical.

 

Bringing up politics in a theme park forum is distasteful.

 

1. The bartender was likely just attempting to not escalate the situation. I wouldn't fault him at all. Even if he could have handled it better.

 

2. Give it a rest, chicken.

 

-- Sucks that you had a bad experience gearbm95. There are some terrible people out there, even at Cedar Point. I don't think you overreacted, but I'm not sure what the park can do to rectify that situation.

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I have a few questions for some of you. I make a annual trip out to Cedar Point every summer. Before I go I look around at hotels and read guests reviews about trying to find the best hotel in Sandusky to stay for a week. I'm going June 19 through June 24. I was looking at Hotel Breakers I booked a room on Sunday made a reservation for 4 nights. I'm doing the easy payment plan 4 equal payments the first one is charged to your visa to hold the room. My question is this will be my first time ever staying at Hotel Breakers I would like to know if it's worth making the investment trying to spend money and have a nice place to stay for a week at Cedar Point and I would like to here from some of you what it was like for the first time staying at Hotel Breakers and how are the rooms and beds? I got the standard room king bed non smoking. I have always wanted to stay at Hotel Breakers because it's right on the Lake front and within walking distance from the Magnum XL 200. I'm driving from Minnesota 15 hour drive my plan is to leave Sunday evening at 7:00 pm arrive around noon I'm also planning to stop at Conneaut Lake Park because it's 40 minutes away and I can't check in till 4:00 pm then go sleep for the night and Tuesday plan to stay at Cedar Point for the day.

 

Breakers is a great place to stay, regardless of the room. The old rooms were dated and crappy, but it was still awesome being on site. If this is like a once in a lifetime trip for someone, it's worth it, but if you go once a year or every couple of years, you may want to explore cheaper options off the peninsula.

 

One thing I noticed you mentioned Conneaut Lake Park. Just so you know, the amusement park is about 2.5 hours from Cedar Point...not 40 minutes!

 

 

Edit: Just for the record, I like hockey, football, heavy metal music...and guys too.

 

Sorry that this happened to the OP at one of the best places on the planet, but yeah...America and the world in general still has a long way to go to accepting the LGBTQ crowd. A lot of good progress has been made in recent years, but I hope that things don't start to regress due to all the bad sh%t that's going on in the world right now.

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Great pics! Assuming the MCBR doesn't kill off too much speed, (not ridden NTAG but I've heard more than a few feel it scrubs off too much speed) this could easily be the baddest RMC yet. So glad the biggest will be at CP as it should be!

 

I don't know how anyone who has ridden NTAG could feel that the MCBR takes off too much speed. Half the time you barely even know you're going through the MCBR (aside from the flat track) Of the 200+ times I've been on the coaster I've never felt the MCBR "grab." (You can tell from the POV below that the train flies through the MCBR!) I'm assuming New Mean Streak will be the same way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zTKtho3ZJI

 

I'd not be surprised. Ya know enthusiasts...we can be a weird lot This is why I really shouldn't take what people say too seriously without experiencing I guess. I have no do doubt New Mean Streak will do it right. Hell the speed it's carrying may even warrant a bit of a slow down. If we believe the estimations people are putting out there, thing will be hauling ass

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I don't think you overreacted, but I'm not sure what the park can do to rectify that situation.

 

The park just has to show that it sincerely cares. Really, that's it. It's not about retribution toward the guy with the remarks, but just about the park showing compassionate & authentic responsiveness.

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The park just has to show that it sincerely cares.

 

They have. We bitched and moaned about how awful Mean Streak was, and look at the thing.

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The park just has to show that it sincerely cares.

 

They have. We bitched and moaned about how awful Mean Streak was, and look at the thing.

 

I appreciate what you're trying to do here Boldy! Those pics of RMC Streak were glorious, and yes, CP has shown us they truly do care with how amazing this is going to be!

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Great pics! Assuming the MCBR doesn't kill off too much speed, (not ridden NTAG but I've heard more than a few feel it scrubs off too much speed) this could easily be the baddest RMC yet. So glad the biggest will be at CP as it should be!

 

I don't know how anyone who has ridden NTAG could feel that the MCBR takes off too much speed. Half the time you barely even know you're going through the MCBR (aside from the flat track) Of the 200+ times I've been on the coaster I've never felt the MCBR "grab." (You can tell from the POV below that the train flies through the MCBR!) I'm assuming New Mean Streak will be the same way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zTKtho3ZJI

 

I'd not be surprised. Ya know enthusiasts...we can be a weird lot This is why I really shouldn't take what people say too seriously without experiencing I guess. I have no do doubt New Mean Streak will do it right. Hell the speed it's carrying may even warrant a bit of a slow down. If we believe the estimations people are putting out there, thing will be hauling A$$

I've ridden it once, and the MCBR didn't kill much speed at all.

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Then again, I couldn't care less what some guy at a bar says about me. I probably would have laughed and agreed with whatever was said. Maybe even added to it a bit.

 

you just described my philosophy when in public perfectly, but I mean not in bars because I'm 17

 

But more importantly, TWO of the webcams were giving close-up views of SkyRide today

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There's far too many "devils advocates" excusing homophobia on here today.

 

A grand total of zero people are "excusing homophobia". We all think the guy who said that is the scum of the earth. All that's happening is that some of us are saying that we can understand why an untrained bartender who just started an entry level seasonal job less than 2 weeks ago might have been unprepared to deal with that type of situation which I would think is beyond the scope of his training because (let's be honest) it's not like he's a real bartender. He's working at a food service location that up until recently didn't even have a bathroom at a seasonal amusement park where I'm sure no actual bartending experience is required. Nobody's acting like he's the victim here but saying that you understand his situation isn't "excusing homophobia".

 

But more importantly, TWO of the webcams were giving close-up views of SkyRide today

 

Oh believe me, I noticed. I loved that angle on cam 1 today. It's always weird looking down at a Sky Ride. I don't know why since comparatively speaking they're not overly tall rides but I still think it's cool.

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There's far too many "devils advocates" excusing homophobia on here today.

 

 

hahahahahahaha

 

 

oh my. . I guess I don't know what "homophobia" looks like.

 

I'll have to ask my husband to learn me!

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There's far too many "devils advocates" excusing homophobia on here today.

 

A grand total of zero people are "excusing homophobia". We all think the guy who said that is the scum of the earth. All that's happening is that some of us are saying that we can understand why an untrained bartender who just started an entry level seasonal job less than 2 weeks ago might have been unprepared to deal with that type of situation which I would think is beyond the scope of his training because (let's be honest) it's not like he's a real bartender. He's working at a food service location that up until recently didn't even have a bathroom at a seasonal amusement park where I'm sure no actual bartending experience is required. Nobody's acting like he's the victim here but saying that you understand his situation isn't "excusing homophobia".

 

That's literally all speculation downplaying this. You don't know the age of the bartender nor do you know how long he's worked there. The devil's advocate stuff really downplays this customer's experience. Even if he might be under-experienced at his job, he should still face consequences for the way he treated customers.

 

That bartender should have AT LEAST apologized for the uncomfortable situation. But he should have honestly called his manager/security to remove the other patron for using slurs at another guest. IMO, the behavior of the bartender is completely unprofessional.

 

And who knows, maybe the bartender was actually homophobic? None of you were there. Either case, this is wrong and should definitely be brought up to park management.

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I can't believe I need to clarify.

 

I'm at an amusement park to have fun. And as much as ignorant words hurt feelings, it's not worth getting upset over and ruining your day.

 

The bartender probably should have addressed you personally, but he may not have noticed that you were disturbed by those comments or his reaction. I can't explain his behavior, but I can advise you to just let this kind of thing roll off your back. Life is much easier when you don't let people get under your skin.

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Sorry, I have a hard time buying "it's early in the season", "he's new at the job" etc; Common sense would tell you not to dignify hateful comments towards a paying guest with any response other than MAYBE a smirk. This bartender is at LEAST 21 years old, not a 16 year old high school sophomore working his first job. You should've had enough life experience at 21 to handle the situation with a little more tact.

 

I do feel Cedar Point should be contacted, not out of spite and/or revenge, but to assure this situation never happens again. A paying guest should never feel discriminated against by an employee, even if it wasn't the employee's intention.

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That's literally all speculation downplaying this. You don't know the age of the bartender nor do you know how long he's worked there. The devil's advocate stuff really downplays this customer's experience. Even if he might be under-experienced at his job, he should still face consequences for the way he treated customers.

 

That bartender should have AT LEAST apologized for the uncomfortable situation. But he should have honestly called his manager/security to remove the other patron for using slurs at another guest. IMO, the behavior of the bartender is completely unprofessional.

 

And who knows, maybe the bartender was actually homophobic? None of you were there. Either case, this is wrong and should definitely be brought up to park management.

 

Jesus Christ, dude. You need to relax. Can we just get this over with and go lynch the bar tender?

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