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Re: Lagoon Discussion Thread

Postby Jakizle » Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:49 pm

I think you guys are way overthinking it. As the speed gets higher and the angle gets steeper the track just gets a wider radius to keep the negative g-forces in check. Also, positives kick in as soon as it reaches the inflection point (before it reaches 90 degrees on the pull-out).

Still looks really fun.

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Postby ThemeParkJunkie51290 » Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:11 pm

StuckInSD wrote:That looks more like hang-time than air-time to me. :Pr

That drop looks epic, but God, I hope they can make that tower look good.


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Postby gerstlaueringvar » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:52 pm

Jakizle wrote:Also, positives kick in as soon as it reaches the inflection point (before it reaches 90 degrees on the pull-out).

Doesn't the negative G force between the inflection point and 90 degrees point balance the positive G force? That's the point of having a parabolic shaped "Zero G section" I guess.

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Re: Lagoon Discussion Thread

Postby gerstlaueringvar » Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:56 am

I discussed the possibility of the 0G sensation with my study group earlier but we couldn't find the right formulas to correctly set up the parabola, can anyone help us with that?

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Re: Lagoon Discussion Thread

Postby Fooz » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:34 am

Look up kinematic equations, if you know the speed and angle to the entry to the section it should be easy. Of course, not knowing the resisting force of the fins on the approach, there's no way to calculate the speed going into it.

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Re: Lagoon Discussion Thread

Postby rcjp » Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:46 pm

gerstlaueringvar wrote:
Jakizle wrote:Also, positives kick in as soon as it reaches the inflection point (before it reaches 90 degrees on the pull-out).

Doesn't the negative G force between the inflection point and 90 degrees point balance the positive G force? That's the point of having a parabolic shaped "Zero G section" I guess.

In theory yes. But remember that even if they do that the positive Gs will have to start before the 90 degrees part as "in theory" (and with no drag) an object falling (with initial horizontal speed) will never fall vertically, which is why a vertical drop will always have to have some air, even if it's not a lot.
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Postby ccfan007 » Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:41 pm

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Re: Lagoon Discussion Thread

Postby Brassinthegrass » Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:44 pm

I'm confused, what's with the off center garage door at the top? Kind of hard to park that high up off the ground... :lmao:

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Re: Lagoon Discussion Thread

Postby RCF » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:18 pm

Brassinthegrass wrote:I'm confused, what's with the off center garage door at the top? Kind of hard to park that high up off the ground... :lmao:

It's for access to the elevator system for maintenance.

So I took some photos on Thursday outside of Lagoon when they were installing a piece of track, although I didn't realize it until I looked back at the photos so I only got photos of them installing the piece. Here are some of the photos from that day.

NOTE: I have an old, busted camera that has the black dots inside the lens and shows up in every picture. Sorry for the nuisance.
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Here is Cannibal from afar!
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Wicked sure does look like a jealous middle-child, but the skyline definitely looks amazing from here!
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Here is where you see the track piece in the air being put into place.
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Something not mentioned here much, but Roller Coaster is currently going through a complete rebuild that has been going on for years now. This off-season, the lift is getting the love!
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Track piece is installed!
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Directly looking at the drop in front.
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So many cranes are on site for this ride.
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Reason is because of how great the weather is for a Utah December. It almost reached 60 degrees this day, with no sign of getting colder.
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The ride looks great from it's right side.
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However, the dots really do ruin some great photos.
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The completely right side of Cannibal is breathtaking with that drop!
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Here is some twisty track laying in the field. There's actually a lot of track and supports laying all around in the overflow parking lot.
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I felt so naughty taking a picture of Cannibal's back side. :oops:
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Something not seen or known too well, but the Lagoon Trail that borders the south and east side of Lagoon gets VERY close to Rattlesnake Rapids. This shows the ride down for the year. Figured it would be a cool photo to share.
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To end these construction photos, here is a complete left-side silhouette of Cannibal's drop. Thanks for viewing!

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Re: Lagoon Discussion Thread

Postby Midgetman82 » Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:40 pm

^Great photos, thank you for sharing them. Maybe it's my interest in ride theming talking, but I'm especially interested about the themed possible head-chopper tunnel at the bottom of that ridiculous drop! It looks like it was modeled in NL, but in a very good way! What is the ride supposed to be themed to, exactly?
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