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^They do, but they also advertise Full Throttle as the tallest and fastest looping coaster in the world, and it was confirmed by the Guiness Book of World Records. That record always seemed false to me, especially after all of the coasters the posters above me mentioned.

 

Back on topic, I REALLY hope I can ride this in 2015! We're visiting family up in Utah this summer, and the extra 2 hour drive would be totally worth it for Cannibal!

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^^YOLO has the tallest vertical loop in the world, Gatekeeper has the tallest inversion in the world, and Eejanaika is the tallest coaster to have an inversion. So, calling something the 'world's tallest looping coaster' can actually refer to three different coasters (at least to the GP who call all inversions 'loops')

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Parks love to pick out and exploit these seemingly complex records for the sake of marketing and PR. In many cases, parks want a landmark expansion to break some record of some form (even if it just a "regional" record). In some other cases, these records are a stretch or not even true but it's the nature of the market. Everyone wants to find a way to call their product the absolute best. I see parks making these record claims (I do it myself when operating some rides) and I chuckle at their efforts. But the day I get upset about a park stretching the truth or picking and choosing statistics to claim records, is the day I give up the hobby.

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In many cases, parks want a landmark expansion to break some record of some form (even if it just a "regional" record).

 

Don't sell this ride short... while many of it's records will just be regional records I expect it to hold the WORLD record for the ugliest coaster ever built for years to come.

 

EDIT: It can probably claim to have the tallest inversion for awhile too until the Poler Coaster opens.

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The superlatives have and will always be part of marketing. It will always be there for amusement parks. I still remember billboards in Florida in the days of the Florida Hurricane promoting it as the fastest wooden roller coaster in the Southeast US.

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Yet Lagoon has yet to play any records, besides tallest coaster in the park. The biggest marketing they have (or had) is that it will "eat" other coasters. Even though it's the tallest beyond-vertical drop in world and steepest drop in the U.S.

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In many cases, parks want a landmark expansion to break some record of some form (even if it just a "regional" record).

 

Don't sell this ride short... while many of it's records will just be regional records I expect it to hold the WORLD record for the ugliest coaster ever built for years to come.

 

EDIT: It can probably claim to have the tallest inversion for awhile too until the Poler Coaster opens.

Doesn't gatekeeper have the world's tallest inversion?

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I like Cannibal's layout except for the heartline roll, there's gotta be some serious lateral G force!
You do realize that would be after the MCBR, so that would pace it much better?

That 90 degrees-ish banked section isn't parabola like RMC's Wave Turns, you are hanged sideways. It's after the MCBR so the sideways hang time is even longer.

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I like Cannibal's layout except for the heartline roll, there's gotta be some serious lateral G force!
You do realize that would be after the MCBR, so that would pace it much better?

That 90 degrees-ish banked section isn't parabola like RMC's Wave Turns, you are hanged sideways. It's after the MCBR so the sideways hang time is even longer.

And that would give it more g-force? Think of it as an El Loco outward-banked turns. It would go through it slowly to not cause extremely intense lateral g-force, but be a funky element that is weird to ride.
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I like Cannibal's layout except for the heartline roll, there's gotta be some serious lateral G force!
You do realize that would be after the MCBR, so that would pace it much better?

That 90 degrees-ish banked section isn't parabola like RMC's Wave Turns, you are hanged sideways. It's after the MCBR so the sideways hang time is even longer.

And that would give it more g-force? Think of it as an El Loco outward-banked turns. It would go through it slowly to not cause extremely intense lateral g-force, but be a funky element that is weird to ride.

El Loco's outward banked turn isn't banked that much though. Cannibal is using four across seating trains so the outside seats will have even higher lateral G.

 

Sorry to make it sound like lateral G is the worst thing in this planet, I believe Lagoon designed this ride very carefully and it will be a very enjoyable ride. I'm just not a fan of high lateral G so I might have exaggerated a bit.

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It's actually a bit like Kanonen's heartline roll entrance:

 

 

Those laterals are unnoticeable once onboard, because they are "natural". As for Cannibal, they'll be higher for sure due to the rotational forces, but it should be fine I guess. Note that the NoLimits recreation is a little bit exaggerated on here, it should be more straight.

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