Canobie Coaster Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Unless the park is doing a major troll job, something appears to be happening at the structure. Based on the markings that have appeared on the other RMCs, I'm really hoping the RMC Gwazi dream finally comes true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bf9 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Well, there are a few more obstacles in the way of RMC Gwazi that the other ones didn't have that keep me skeptical. For example ownership's recent financial position, largely compromised structure, ROI questions in a more crowded local market especially if they do both sides- won't be cheap or fast, Florida's climate which can really screw with wood even more than the average hot place (+year round ride maintenance schedule), and perhaps not an immediate need for a big intense coaster although maybe the locals will disagree on that one lol. When you add all these together it starts to become really prohibitive. Don't get me wrong, I've always thought Gwazi could make a killer hybrid with both sides interacting and it would be awesome to see happen. But I won't be sold until there are more obvious signs than a few markers on footers (that type of color is also very often used for removal) which happen to be on a coaster that's been rotting away for years and been slated for total removal per reliable inside sources. Sure things can and do change but there's a lot of hurdles that would have to be jumped to make that a reality in this specific situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgtlover Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Gwazi has been SBNO for 3 years already (Tiger longer), parts of it were taken and used for other rides/attractions in the chain, and I believe I saw a photo of part of it underwater at some point recently. Granted it's not impossible to come back from any of this (Twisted Twins was SBNO for 7 years before Storm Chaser.... Gwazi to my knowledge has never been underwater. The trains obviously went to BGW. They sent some of the good wood to SWO to use in refurbishment of some shops there. Twisted Twins had a steel support structure, so it standing there for 7 years didn't matter than much vs. an enormous wood structure that has had no maintenance in over 3-4 years in a subtropical climate with excessive heat and humidity the majority of the year. Not saying RMC couldn't work miracles, but I don't see it happening personally. A recent tiger related trademark filed plus mysterious support dots show up, which follow previous RMC patterns, and folks still wanna say "I'll believe it when I see it?!" Come on, it's obviously happening. Remember...there are THREE trademarks, not just Twisted Tiger. The others are "Uproar" and "Tigris". They may use one, none or throw us a big surprise and give us 3 new rides (a coaster and 2 flats-I'd love this). Of course, they could rename a couple attractions as well with them with a new coaster also. The possibilities are endless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X2coasterfreak Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Gwazi has been SBNO for 3 years already (Tiger longer), parts of it were taken and used for other rides/attractions in the chain, and I believe I saw a photo of part of it underwater at some point recently. Granted it's not impossible to come back from any of this (Twisted Twins was SBNO for 7 years before Storm Chaser.... Gwazi to my knowledge has never been underwater. This is the photo in question I believe, from October of last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAWKIN_coaster38 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 ^That's the one I was referring to. Twisted Twins being a steel structure I'm sure helped its case a lot, but 7 years is still a long time. I'm skeptical about Gwazi coming back, but I'm no coaster engineer and RMC has done some pretty amazing transformations in the past. Also, even if the markings are for demo, that suggests to me that BGT has big plans for the area. Since someone mentioned SOB, it came down and Banshee went up within two years. Why spend the money to demo unless they plan to use the area for something else, or leaving it up is some kind of hazard/liability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgtlover Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 ^ & ^^I forgot all about that. My memory has been refreshed...lol As far as them tearing it down now (or RMC or whatever), There is something going to be built. While trademarks aren't always used, often they are. Since three were filed, is is safe to assume at least one attraction will be built. There could be 3; a coaster and 2 flats. There could be a new coaster, and 2 renamed attractions. Something could fall through and there be nothing. Either way it goes, it's an interesting ride along the way until something more shows up than a few spray paint markings on some footers that could have been there for months for all we know. I don't think anyone was paying attention until the Trademarks were discovered. I wish I had looked better a couple weeks ago when I was there at the footers at least. The track portions looked horrible, especially the Tiger side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Geek Mojo Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Maybe BGT has been waiting in the queue line waiting their turn for RMC. RMC is a popular ride, with a 3 - 4 year line wait time. Unfortunately, there was no quick queue option. But something tells me, this ride is going to be worth the wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boldikus Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I'm not sure why the flooding is an issue at all. We've seen RMC rebuild sections of structure before, and thats only a few feet off the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenbowl Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 ^ Also flooding is like a non-event. SFOG and Knoebels heavily flood like every other year. Coasters half submerged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcoaster Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 My guess is that Gwazi will finally meet its maker (a wrecking ball). That is a huge plot of land the park could use for a bunch of new attractions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) I mean I'm skeptical until we see something more concrete... Agreed. Like, you know... a guy in an RMC hard hat and truck pouring concrete. Seriously though, considering the source, I wouldn't put too much stock in the click-bait garbage I've seen come out of it. I mean, the RMC rumor has been going around for a long, long, long time and I know there is some shred of truth to it, but things change all the time in this industry. Look at Gold Striker. How many times was that project on and off? And what about the Morey's Piers woodie? Or the Predator re-make? Again, agreed with boldikus. This doesn't change the legitimacy of the rumor any more than what we've been hearing since the ride closed. Edited April 17, 2018 by robbalvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dombot Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) Yeah, I agree with Boldikus and Robb. I'll believe it when I see it, but with (kinda) legit evidence of an RMC coming to my home park, it's REALLY hard not to get excited. Edited April 18, 2018 by Dombot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I don’t know, the point of the survey location would be much more accurate if they put a nail into the brace beam or write a cross on it with a pencil/marker. I hope it’s not just bird poop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcoaster Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I don’t know, the point of the survey location would be much more accurate if they put a nail into the brace beam or write a cross on it with a pencil/marker. I hope it’s not just bird poop. RMC Bird poop coaster confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrlittle Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Even if all they did was tear down half the ride and build a new ride. It’s better than looking at a coaster rotting away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaster1227 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 ^The ride structure looks far better than the station and queue does... I still wonder how much it would really take to retain the existing structure for future use. Kentucky Kingdom had Twisted Twins closed for six years before it began working on the RMC conversion. Gwazi has only been closed for just over three years and these structures are designed to last decades, so I have to believe there's some level of value to what is still standing. I don't know that I believe that Busch Gardens is in a position to invest the kind of time, money and resources into upgrading Gwazi (let alone tearing it down, which comes at a cost that has seemingly been deemed low priority if they truly intended to bring it down). I'm hopeful that they do, but I'm totally prepared for a Premier Skyrocket-level investment and not an RMC-level investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I'm hopeful that they do, but I'm totally prepared for a Premier Skyrocket-level investment and not an RMC-level investment. I see both in BGT's future. Future can be more than 1-3 years though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I'd be thrilled with either of them to be honest. Obviously we'd all prefer the RMC but a Skyrocket is a great fit for that park... especially if they replace one of their closed eyesores with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisLuv Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) I'd be thrilled with either of them to be honest. Obviously we'd all prefer the RMC but a Skyrocket is a great fit for that park... especially if they replace one of their closed eyesores with it. I'm hopeful that they do, but I'm totally prepared for a Premier Skyrocket-level investment and not an RMC-level investment. I see both in BGT's future. Future can be more than 1-3 years though. I can see a sky rocket here and San Antonio, popular and relatively cheap. This is SEAS's version Six Flags' S&S 4d clones. And in the case of liquidation, easy to move when sold off. I'd love to see a Mack Power Splash at BGT Edited April 18, 2018 by ElvisLuv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAWKIN_coaster38 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I don’t know, the point of the survey location would be much more accurate if they put a nail into the brace beam or write a cross on it with a pencil/marker. I hope it’s not just bird poop. Or if they draped a rosary on it and sprinkled some holy water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&MIntaminGCI Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 BGT is my favorite park I've ever been to. I've been wanting to go since I was 8 and finally got to go in 2016. I've heard about all the rumors, but I'm still trying to keep my hype down because I don't want to be disappointed, but if BGT is really getting an RMC, I'll definitely be down in 2019 to revisit my favorite park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrbuzz Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I’ll only say this, keep your eyes peeled for that famous RMC truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dombot Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I’ll only say this, keep your eyes peeled for that famous RMC truck. STOP TOYING WITH MY EMOTIONS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlahBlahson Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 A Dueling RMC would probably be the best coaster in the state of Florida. A SkyRocket would be the 5th best coaster at the park. I for one, really hope it's the former and I would be there opening day for a re-imagined Gwazi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrippinBillie Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I don't think it'd even need to be dueling RMCs. Just make it one GOOD one.....add some other stuff in the plot of land and you've got yourself a new, fresh area that will draw a ton of people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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