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Anyone who has gotten the chance to ride Orion had any issues with the restrains? My friend is able to ride any other B&M coaster with the clamshells (that he had tried to ride) but for some reason could not get the restraint secured on Orion and had to take the walk of shame. He was able to ride Dimondback later that day with no issues, and rode Mako a few days earlier no issue. Wondering if this is specific to all giga B&Ms or this is specific to just Orion.

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Orion seems to be a hair different. I've seen quite a few people talking about this. You have to get 3 clicks but it seems they start slightly earlier. DB, Fury, etc you only need 2 clicks...or so I've read.

 

I didn't really notice a different in the two myself but it's not exactly a super tight fit for me. I did see a couple people that had to walk which I thought would have been ok. Best of luck.

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These waterboarding comments are cracking me up. Nobody is suggesting wearing a mask WHILE SWIMMING, that would be absurd. The difficulty of wearing masks at a water park stems from the logistics of having to wear a mask in line for a water slide, and then what? Hold onto the mask while you go down the slide? Put it in your pocket? Now it’s soaked or lost. Nevermind the nightmare of masks clogging drains. Clearly wave pools and lazy rivers are probably a no-go because you know, you’re in the water, and at that point why open the water park to begin with?

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Briefly pulling back on topic to the new coaster. Really enjoyed it! Got 16 total laps in on it with the help of my FL+ I bought during president's day sale.

 

Also, this may not always happen, but the operators ditched the ride access tickets at the last hour and let everyone on because there was a sharp drop in guests in the park and around Area 72 at that point. It might've been because Sunday was ridiculously hot and muggy and most folks were ready to go home at that point. Nonetheless, Flight of Fear went from 60 minute wait at noon to walk-on at 6pm and Orion was between walk-ons and in-station waits for the last hour.

 

An elderly lady was sitting behind me for one lap on Orion, and I quite enjoyed her comment on the brake run: "Wow, what a way to fly!" Not to say the coaster is weak, but praise the fact it's a crowd pleaser a LOT of people are gonna be able to enjoy without fear of losing their lunch (i.e. my dad after he rode SV last year). It's fast and tall, pure and simple, and very re-rideable. Not a top-10 coaster for me, but I still had a blast on it!

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These waterboarding comments are cracking me up. Nobody is suggesting wearing a mask WHILE SWIMMING, that would be absurd.

 

One poster said "I couldnt find any exception in the IL rules for water parks, so it sounds to me like they're breaking the states own rules."

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These waterboarding comments are cracking me up. Nobody is suggesting wearing a mask WHILE SWIMMING, that would be absurd. The difficulty of wearing masks at a water park stems from the logistics of having to wear a mask in line for a water slide, and then what? Hold onto the mask while you go down the slide? Put it in your pocket? Now it’s soaked or lost. Nevermind the nightmare of masks clogging drains. Clearly wave pools and lazy rivers are probably a no-go because you know, you’re in the water, and at that point why open the water park to begin with?

 

Schliterbahn doesn't require masks in the lines

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Briefly pulling back on topic to the new coaster. Really enjoyed it! Got 16 total laps in on it with the help of my FL+ I bought during president's day sale.

 

Also, this may not always happen, but the operators ditched the ride access tickets at the last hour and let everyone on because there was a sharp drop in guests in the park and around Area 72 at that point. It might've been because Sunday was ridiculously hot and muggy and most folks were ready to go home at that point. Nonetheless, Flight of Fear went from 60 minute wait at noon to walk-on at 6pm and Orion was between walk-ons and in-station waits for the last hour.

 

An elderly lady was sitting behind me for one lap on Orion, and I quite enjoyed her comment on the brake run: "Wow, what a way to fly!" Not to say the coaster is weak, but praise the fact it's a crowd pleaser a LOT of people are gonna be able to enjoy without fear of losing their lunch (i.e. my dad after he rode SV last year). It's fast and tall, pure and simple, and very re-rideable. Not a top-10 coaster for me, but I still had a blast on it!

 

They reopened standby on Saturday when I was there. The last boarding pass finished an hour before park close so they reopened the queue for a bit afterwards.

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For anyone planning a mutli-day trip with a season pass, the system now appears to be allowing unlimited reservations. I've got three so far and tried to make a fourth and it would have allowed it.

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Briefly pulling back on topic to the new coaster. Really enjoyed it! Got 16 total laps in on it with the help of my FL+ I bought during president's day sale.

 

Also, this may not always happen, but the operators ditched the ride access tickets at the last hour and let everyone on because there was a sharp drop in guests in the park and around Area 72 at that point. It might've been because Sunday was ridiculously hot and muggy and most folks were ready to go home at that point. Nonetheless, Flight of Fear went from 60 minute wait at noon to walk-on at 6pm and Orion was between walk-ons and in-station waits for the last hour.

 

An elderly lady was sitting behind me for one lap on Orion, and I quite enjoyed her comment on the brake run: "Wow, what a way to fly!" Not to say the coaster is weak, but praise the fact it's a crowd pleaser a LOT of people are gonna be able to enjoy without fear of losing their lunch (i.e. my dad after he rode SV last year). It's fast and tall, pure and simple, and very re-rideable. Not a top-10 coaster for me, but I still had a blast on it!

 

'That all sounds awesome, especially the ***16*** rides!, thanks for the update! I am excited to try it again.

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I rode with a kid on Saturday that was obviously a fan. He also had fast lane. We was nearing 40 rides for the day and this was at 5ish. He had been there since First riders. He was well over 100 laps. Nice guy. We chatted for awhile sitting on the brakes.

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Seeing how World's of Fun dropped needing reservations to enter the park, I can see parks like Kings Island potentially offering Fast-Lane+ again (and inevitably going back to standby waits). Having said that, they could also do like what I saw with Steel Vengeance's opening and hike up the price for FL+ due to potential high demand too.

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Kings Island on July 4th was my first park visit post-lockdown and I was super impressed with the operations and Covid procedures. Everyone seemed to be wearing masks properly and respecting each others’ distance in lines. All coasters were loading every-other row with the exception of Banshee (every row was loaded with 1-4 people in the same party) and Orion (every row was loaded with a max of 2 people in the same party). Many crew members were still getting the hang of their job functions but for the most part everyone was super friendly and moving quickly!

 

Here are some ride thoughts:

 

Orion: Meh. It’s fun. I was admittedly disappointed when this coaster was announced because it seems likely Kings Island will be the last park in the country to build a giga for a very long time, and this certainly looked like a big step down from Fury on paper. Well, after riding twice—once in the front and once in the back— I can confirm that (IMO) it’s also a big step down from Fury in practice. I heard many people around the park, including my 19 year old cousin and his friend who’ve probably ridden 20 coasters, make comments like, “It’s just a shorter Diamondback.” I’m aware that Orion is actually a hundred feet or so longer than Diamondback, but I’m just relaying some hearsay. I love big coasters—of course I’ll ride Orion every visit if the wait is reasonable—but I can’t help but to think there was a more interesting way for Kings Island to spend $30 million. And I absolutely PROMISE you: there is no ejector airtime.

 

Mystic Timbers: Holy crap! Did someone turn up the juice on this thing this season? Cuz it’s running like CRAZY! (Something I’ve never said about a GCI before.) So fast, so smooth, and so out-of-control. The ratio of in-your-seat vs. out-of-your-seat on this thing has to be close to 50/50. I got 3 rides Saturday on Mystic and it very well may have catapulted to my top spot in the park. So much fun!

 

Banshee: Holy crap again! I swear something is happening at Kings Island this season because I couldn’t believe how fast and intense my rides on Banshee were. And that first drop in the back right seat? More please.

 

Diamondback: Rattly as hell, but dang this ride is so fun! Wonderful sustained airtime over every hill, even with the annoyingly hard-grabbing trims. Still my favorite B&M in the park!

 

The Beast: Unfortunately, my favorite seat (second from back) is blocked off this season, but I still enjoyed my super bumpy, super intense ride in the very back row. That long, suspenseful drop into the tunneled helix will forever be one of the best moments on any coaster.

 

 

A couple annoyances:

 

-Despite being the only day of the season that a night ride was possible (10pm closing for July 4th), the line for The Beast was cut off with no warning at 9:20pm, which was quite frustrating for many people who had chosen this date to attend for that specific reason.

-Additionally, at the end of the night, despite ride capacity being cut to 50% and holding a 30 minute line, the back row of Mystic Timbers was unavailable so the ride supervisor could take turns riding with his coworkers. I thought this was in poor taste (and as a former Cedar Fair ride supervisor, obviously against park policy). But whatever.

-While there are lots of hand sanitizer dispensers throughout the park, most were empty or already broken after 2 days of operation. Those cheap, plastic, 22-ounce manual dispensers are not going to hold up for 10-15,000 guests every day.

 

Overall, it was an absolutely wonderful day at one of my favorite parks. After wearing a mask for a couple hours, it was easy to forget I even had one on. I would totally recommend a visit to Kings Island over other parks in the area at this point in time.

 

Also, I happened to meet Canobie Coaster, who is a super nice guy, and we had a few good conversations!

 

Oh! And Orion was my 500th official credit. So that was cool.

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A 30M giga coaster at Kings Island had so much potential! I am going to see how much I enjoy it more after more than 1 ride. I think the layout is so odd for the scale of the project but KI seems to love these big B&M elements.

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Great review of your day at KI, Daniel.

 

I think you've kinda nailed my own priors on Orion. It looks fun, it's similar to Diamondback, etc. None of these things are bad! But to spend $30M on "very good" and then make up your own definition of "giga-coaster" for the sake of your PR department? It's always kinda confused me, but hey, I'm just an outsider who hasn't even been on it yet.

 

Banshee in the last row is definitely an experience. Was it running smooth back there?

 

I drove past the park tonight at about 10PM, and Orion's laser beam lift hill looks amazing.

 

Congrats on 500! I hope you spent an appropriate amount of time reminiscing on all the SLCs and sketchy kiddie credits that brought you to that amazing numeric accomplishment.

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Banshee in the last row is definitely an experience. Was it running smooth back there?

 

Andy, we both know the answer to this question. I’ve just decided to get over it. The KI B&M rattle is here to stay, but I’m gonna love the coasters anyway!

 

Congrats on 500! I hope you spent an appropriate amount of time reminiscing on all the SLCs and sketchy kiddie credits that brought you to that amazing numeric accomplishment.

 

What happens in Poland...

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^^^ Nice report and great meeting you on Saturday!

 

Based on my rides last year, I think Banshee's rattle is train dependent. I remember two rides being brutal last year, but one was very smooth. I got good rides this year; both in the teal train.

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I learned that there is now an Android version of the G Force recorder app! I will try it out at the park on Friday

 

Here are some more photos from last week. I had a noon time slot, and I my goal was really just to get 1 ride on Orion, some blue ice cream, and check out the park outside of Winterfest for the first time in a couple years! Ride ops were telling people to wear masks properly and cover their mouth and nose in the same way that they tell people to get off the hand railings. Pretty much singling the person out until they realize/or someone else in their party smacked 'em.

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I went straight to Orion and got a 4-5pm ticket window. Drop Zone showed an empty carriage so let's head over there.

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SoB's flame still going strong!

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Yep, so far so good! Very happy what nearly EVERYONE was following the rules!

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I think people realize how far we've come so far and are making sure we don't take a step backward.

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A ride on the Racer to get a closer look at Orion will come with a price... no non-wheel seats! Yep it ran like it's from 1972.

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This is pretty much how all the midways looked. Lines were still 30-45 for most coasters, though. This was just the 3rd day of operation.

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Right outside Area 72 you start to see some nice additions to the area!

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Here's your new for 2020 hotness..

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Your standard B&M hyper/giga trains! As mentioned in this thread you can't hear the antirollbacks and the ride overall is pretty quiet.

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Just like Fury, you're going to start off the ride with an incredible first drop.

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New for 2019, and owner of a 2 hour wait during Winterfest, the Antique Cars! Walk on today!

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Very happy to have this chill ride back at KI.

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Now that Vortex is gone, this stretch of the park is kinda like that gap between Dominator and i305 at KD - just not too much there. Excited for what's to come!

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It's 91*, index is 100*, and I am having no issues breathing or overheating. I can't recco these neck garter/facecoverings enough!

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Diamondback looking like she's about to shed this paintjob haha

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Looked to be running pretty well! I will have to get a ride my next visit.

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Kings Island has an awesome local craft beer selection, and some great views to enjoy them at!

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I love these different angles of the Beast!

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Thank you for your service, old Arrow. For a long time the only solid piece of airtime at KI was Vortex's first turn and drop.

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Back to Orion, let's get a first ride in!

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Oooo little themeing before you head up to the station. Oh and one of the dumbasses no following the rules. Just seeing this now! Ride ops were telling people to wear masks properly and cover their mouth and nose.

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I arrived towards the middle-end of my hour window, so I breezed right through. Would love to take in more details/easter eggs on my next visit.

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It's a... interesting layout that's for sure!

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Back row right side ride complete! I would love another ride or two before giving a firm judgement but after 1 ride I thought it was really fun with a great first drop and surprising twisty airtime hill before the brakes, but nothing else worth bragging about. I'll update this Friday!

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^ Nice report! Definitely try Orion up front if they're still honoring seating requests.

 

I definitely wish more of the queue took place in that themed building since there was a ton of Easter eggs in there. My favorite was the SpongeBob wumbology reference.

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