Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

[RollerManic]

Does anyone else think Mystic Timbers is very reminiscent of Verbolten?

 

I do hope it gives fantastic night rides.

[ElectricUncleSam]

We shot some 360 footage for the park this morning and they wasted no time posting it to their Facebook page:

 

Be sure to watch it on your phone (and click the HD button!)

 

Please go share it on your Facebook page as well!

Damn it, I missed you by a day!

[drummermattk]

When you walk into work at your ride and you see robb walk by......................... Nice to see you guys yesterday and was jealous of my friend who was sent to Beast and you guys where there

[Philrad71]

Missed the initial announcement, but it looks like this will be another "must ride at night in the front seat" - just like another woodie that isn't located too far away.

[ElectricUncleSam]

When you walk into work at your ride and you see robb walk by......................... Nice to see you guys yesterday and was jealous of my friend who was sent to Beast and you guys where there

Closest I've been was going to the Banshee night-ride preview event just before it opened. He was there, but I never saw him.

[jynx242]

Does anyone else think Mystic Timbers is very reminiscent of Verbolten?

 

I do hope it gives fantastic night rides.

 

I was thinking this, which isn't necessarily a bad thing

 

I was also thinking of Beast. I would love to see some slight modifications (banking and topper track on some of the curves for example,) but only to the extent that it could be run without the trim brakes again.

[thrillbill]

Man I'm excited about this one, great fit for the park. It's ridiculous the hate it's gotten on their facebook page from the GP, they'll be eating those words next year when they ride this thing!

[LiftThrill]

This ride like it'll have the sensation of speed similar to Beast or Millennium Force. I'm guessing it'll be one of the best 2017 coasters.

[Arthur_Seaton]

Was at the park today and planned on leaving around 4pm. Decided to make The Beast my last ride (I did the night ride thing on it last night). Rain started sprinkling while walking over to it; started coming down hard while waiting in the queue (everyone got pretty wet at that point); and by the time we were on the train, it was pouring hard. Not the brightest of ideas but a once-in-a-lifetime chance: riding The Beast in a full-on torrential rain storm. It was hilarious, painful, blinding, but everyone on the train had an absolute blast. It was basically the equivalent of a drenching water ride and I'm currently in my hotel trying to dry out my clothes with a hairdryer. Good times!

[drummermattk]

Construction video and photos as of 7/28/2016

 

Rivertown train station

leaving the station

Whats this?

I believe ill be here later

LUMBER (Back by the patch station)

Diamondback

christmas in july........... who would've known

Tomb raider......long but............nevermind i hated that ride

This view though.

[ElectricUncleSam]

Construction video and photos as of 7/28/2016

 

Didn't even know any other TPR members were there. Judging from your camera angle on the Crypt building, I'd guess that I was only about 3-4 people away from you, too.

[drummermattk]

The pictures where whe're I was before they let people move to the left last the maintenance road. You may have noticed me. I had on a grey storm chaser shirt and orange sunglasses (only in line)

[SFOGdude25]

Just for some perspective on Mystic Timbers, the lift hill will be 109 feet tall, and The Beast's lift hill is 110 feet tall, and it looks pretty big when looking at it in line. I think Mystic Timbers will look MUCH bigger than people anticipate. The rendering makes it look smaller, and much of the GP are thinking of this as barely bigger than a kiddie coaster. They're in for a surprise. I can't wait for this one.

[G Force]

Just for some perspective on Mystic Timbers, the lift hill will be 109 feet tall, and The Beast's lift hill is 110 feet tall, and it looks pretty big when looking at it in line. I think Mystic Timbers will look MUCH bigger than people anticipate. The rendering makes it look smaller, and much of the GP are thinking of this as barely bigger than a kiddie coaster. They're in for a surprise. I can't wait for this one.

 

I believe that Mystic Timbers lift hill will be on land that is 5-15ft higher than Beast's lift hill. I'm not sure how the height is measured exactly, but there is a good chance that Mystic will actually look taller from a distance.

[Vonni]

I really haven't heard much report from the Christmas in July event on any enthusiast site. How did it go over? Was it a decent production? Or did it flop?

[Nuance84]

Just a thought... maybe there is a turntable in there that rotates the train so that it can run a second time backwards. It may well explain the third train, and in the announcement it was said that this ride was inspired by Beast AND Racer. Racer did have a backwards side at one point.

So you mean like turn in the shed, and then roll into the station backwards? Then load and dispatch backwards, alternating forward and backward?

If this is what you mean, I'm not sure at all, but don't trains have to be fitted to run backwards vs forwards? I thought I remembered hearing something like new trains when SF parks get NAMTAB. But I guess they could potentially, somehow design it to run both backwards and forwards if the train design is an issue.

 

I'm thinking the train comes to a stop in the shed, there's some fog, and or strobe effects, or something else equally entertaining while the track rotates 180 degrees, and then is dispatched backwards, and back through the course again. It may explain why there is a 3rd train for what seems to be a very short ride. I imagine that the trains would get stacked regularly based on the POV's length.

 

There are problems with this theory though:

 

-GCI guys say they have no clue what is in the shed ->which could be a fib

-Can one train run both forwards and backwards on the same circuit? -> If not, they could have designed a new one

-There doesn't appear to be an additional track leading down from the shed and back towards the lift hill. -> Its reasonable to believe the video may be omitting this.

-For this to work, the train cannot roll through the station for its backwards run. That would likely result in delays as the backwards train is waiting for the train ahead to load, and stacking issues with the 3rd train.

-The train also has to get turned back around for when it goes into the station.

 

Heres a more realistic possibility, which would be in true Cedar Fair fashion. The shed is the exit station. Riders get on the train in the main station, and exit in the shed. This way KI can have a no loose items policy, and charge for lockers! Revenue generation at its finest.

[Nuance84]

^ lockers?

[ytterbiumanalyst]

^ fluffy, fluffy bunnies filled with medicine and goo?

Little boxes you pay for so you can store your stuff. It's a word filter.

[Nuance84]

^ fluffy, fluffy bunnies filled with medicine and goo?

Little boxes you pay for so you can store your stuff. It's a word filter.

 

That's awesome. I had a good chuckle.

[Vonni]

I really haven't heard much report from the Christmas in July event on any enthusiast site. How did it go over? Was it a decent production? Or did it flop?

 

 

Just bumping this as it has seemed to have gotten lost in other discussion.

[CP Maverick]

I've been away from TPR for most of July. Have we discussed the possibilities of this ride being designed for AR/VR use full time?

[jedimaster1227]

^It would seem like a huge waste to use VR on a terrain coaster like this where half of the experience is about actually flying through the woods. I'm expected some kind of "show scene" to take place in the shed at the ride, whether it be drop track or some kind of tilting/simulator track segment akin to what is found in Harry Potter and the Escape from Gringotts at Universal Studios Florida. I think it makes sense for the show element of the ride will be reserved to this indoor section.

[Skramp]

Ok, so going back and watching the POV video, I noticed a couple of things. Not saying the video is 100% correct, but here goes....

 

1) if you look right at the beginning of the video, you will see the air gates on the right side and the unloading/exit platform on the left. So the train comes back into the station. (on Flight of Fear there is no unloading platform in the loading area)

 

2) as the train approaches the lift hill you see the shed building on the right and its designed to look like part of it extends all the way to the ground which could be used to house/hide a special track section. My only problem with this is how much would it lead to stacking being at the end like that and having to wait for each train to complete a drop section and return into position? Maybe instead of a drop section, theres a nice last, dark airtime drop in the shed with some theming?

Station shot

Shed shot

[knaiwear]

Lord, you guys are seriously overthinking this.

 

This is the park that gave us the Adventure Express ending. Yeah yeah, different owners and all, but damn...

[DoinItForTheFame]

Lord, you guys are seriously overthinking this.

 

 

Agreed. I feel like there really isn't that much more about this coaster that we don't already know.

 

This is the park that gave us the Adventure Express ending. Yeah yeah, different owners and all, but damn...

 

 

Sadly accurate. World's most disappointing coaster ending ever.