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P. 829: Adventure Port themed area announced for 2023!

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Lol people on Facebook acting like this is a kid ride... have you ever ridden a GCI coaster???? I'm done with reading Facebook comments for awhile... don't want to make myself jump off a cliff before I even get to ride this thing

 

I'm actually pretty jealous KI gets this amazing GCI meanwhile KD is stuck with Hurler.

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Lol people on Facebook acting like this is a kid ride... have you ever ridden a GCI coaster???? I'm done with reading Facebook comments for awhile... don't want to make myself jump off a cliff before I even get to ride this thing

 

Well in their defense the name does sound like a kids ride

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Maybe the shed holds a Rotating Section (i.e Haunted Swing) that the train sits in the middle of,

and the walls go round and round it? And then, it just exits into the station.

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The beast did this type of coaster (terrain wooden) better 35ish years ago. 16 years ago the same park put in a 7000 foot 200 tall wooden coaster with a loop. The same park also put in the world's biggest invert and a universal-quality themed flat ride. So this ride is just a meh from me. Reliable, slightly above average wooden coaster in a park that already has several coasters that fit into this category.

 

It seems like they wanted a family addition that grew into a really good family addition, but it doesn't wow me in context of their Other rides or past history.

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I just want to say that if Busch Gardens Tampa suddenly announced that Gwazi was finally being torn down and being replaced by this, I'd be a happy guy. Wooden coasters are hard to come by down here in Florida.

 

Looks pretty solid to me and while GCI doesn't build the best rides on the planet necessarily, it's still a great addition to the line-up you guys already enjoy at this park. Plus, as a few people have said, it'll be a great "night ride" through the woods without having to have your a$$ kicked by The Beast.

 

Going to this area next year anyway, excited to check it out.

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This is just a crazy thought, but notice how it stops before entering the shed. Maybe it's setting up for a launch of like 10mph or so directly into the station brakes. I still think by the time it opens it would be the world's first launching wooden coaster that operates.

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I think overall it's a pretty good fit for the park, and any ride that can utilize the woods at this park is doing it right. Another true major thrill coaster will come at some point, so only three years after Banshee I think they've done well for themselves.

 

Also, it seems like Kings Island has a thing for building the least gimmicky lineup of roller coasters of any park ever. Like if someone said "You have 10 roller coaster types to make the most well rounded park imaginable," I imagine most of that would pretty closely match Kings Island's collection. Like they're really covering all the bases here before they try to do some ridiculous giga coaster that makes every other ride seem like crap and have massive holes in their lineup behind the best few rides.

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I think overall it's a pretty good fit for the park, and any ride that can utilize the woods at this park is doing it right.

 

 

Like they're really covering all the bases here before they try to do some ridiculous giga coaster that makes every other ride seem like crap and have massive holes in their lineup behind the best few rides.

 

I can't imagine WHERE you might be referring to!?!?

 

As for my thoughts on Mystic Timbers, I have no complaints! Yeah, it's not an RMC, but I think we all really knew that going into the announcement, and as I posted WAY earlier in this thread, even if it's White Lightning in the woods, it's going to be awesome. And it looks a lot better than that in my opinion!

 

I don't even see what's so bad about the name... Either this or SplinterCat are better than what a lot of coasters get named these days, and given that it's marketed toward a family/younger child crowd, I think the name really works. If there's one thing kids can't resist, it's the promise of something scary, even if they know they're probably going to be scared by it. I can't wait to show my kids the video, and name, later today, and see their response! They also haven't been to KI yet, so I'm eagerly anticipating taking them there for the first time next year!

 

Regarding the location, I think it's safe to say RFYLCB is safe (congrats, Bill!), which makes me happy, since Flumes need to stop dying off, and I haven't ridden that one yet myself. From watching the POV, you can see that the station points out to the area where the old Funnel Cakes stand was before turning to the right (In fact, if you look down at the cleared ground there in the POV, you can actually see an image of the Funnel Cakes stand from the old satellite view). So this means that the cleared out area will likely be for the ride entrance plaza, and potentially some of the queue as well. It is also what leads me to say fairly definitively that RCFYLCB is staying, since that location seen on the POV would place the top of the "T" portion of the layout just below the flume.

 

I also think that the reason the track is so high off the ground, is clearly that the train needs to go underneath it, as it goes right by where the station is going to be. Looking at the 3D track layout render, I would guess that it goes underneath the part of the track right after the turn out of the station. In fact, I believe at the very start of the POV, you can see the train track going right by there. That would place it going underneath the second little "shed" at the end of the coaster as well.

 

So, this leads me to my belief that the "surprise" in the shed is NOT a drop section of track, as awesome as that would be. I suppose it could drop, and then just come up again, so we can't completely rule it out. However, if I were a betting man, I would put my money on the sheds featuring some sort of interactive screens, or animatronics, spread out over the various mini-"block sections", taken either at a stand still, or at a slow speed, just to flesh out the theme of the ride. Again, not something that will light Enthusiasts' world on fire, but will really get the younger kids excited (and, possibly terrified), and really adds a nice finishing touch to the overall experience of the coaster.

 

Again, I think it looks great, and speaking as a parent of three kids who will probably all love to ride this next year (as will I!), I can't be happier with the addition! KI already had CP beat in terms of being a "Family Park", and this only cements that status further! I've mentioned it elsewhere, but it bears repeating here: Cedar Fair under Ouimet has been very clearly trying to make and mold each park in its proper "image", or targeted "theme" (I'm using that word loosely, obviously - this is Cedar Fair we're talking about here!) I believe they are making it clear that Cedar Point is their flagship "Thrill Park", and "Roller Coaster Capital of the World". which is why they are loading up in that department as of late, and I believe they will continue to do so in upcoming years, starting with RMC Streak - in 2018.) Kings Island is their flagship "Family Park". and given that it's in the same state, and competing for much of the same area, that is what makes the two parks distinctive. Go to one for boundary pushing thrills, and go to the other for a more well-rounded, family friendly experience. I'm not saying KI will never see a Giga or Wing coaster, but again, I would be pretty surprised if they do, honestly... I think this is the new direction of Cedar Fair, and Kings Island, and frankly, I love it! Well done!

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Isn't 3 trains unusual for a GCI? I thought most of them had two. That being the case, the rendering looks like the coaster may have an unloading station to help with capacity. I could see this as being a reality, since KI has really put a focus on capacity this season. Or at least that's the impression I have gotten after reading a few TR's.

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Isn't 3 trains unusual for a GCI? I thought most of them had two. That being the case, the rendering looks like the coaster may have an unloading station to help with capacity. I could see this as being a reality, since KI has really put a focus on capacity this season. Or at least that's the impression I have gotten after reading a few TR's.

It is unusual because rides without a MCBR don't need three trains as one will always be waiting outside the station or even two on slow dispatches. GCI rides don't usefully have a MCBR so don't need the extra train. HOWEVER, this coaster seems to have a dual station on it, with load and unload, allowing it to have more trains, to speed up dispatches without a useless train. Should have a good throughput.

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Ehh, I don't know if I saw that as an unload station but the shed will at least be an additional block and I assume add no less than 10 seconds to the ride time, so they could be doing it like Banshee with three trains and no mid-course. Just imagine the shed takes the place of another 1000 feet of track and the additional block on the brakes.

 

One load/unload, another on the lift while the third finishes the course and hits the brakes.

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The beast did this type of coaster (terrain wooden) better 35ish years ago. 16 years ago the same park put in a 7000 foot 200 tall wooden coaster with a loop. The same park also put in the world's biggest invert and a universal-quality themed flat ride. So this ride is just a meh from me. Reliable, slightly above average wooden coaster in a park that already has several coasters that fit into this category.

 

It seems like they wanted a family addition that grew into a really good family addition, but it doesn't wow me in context of their Other rides or past history.

 

That great part about this is that its perfectly okay. I highly doubt the park mamagement sat in the board room hovering around the table saying, "What can we do it order to "wow" BlahBlahson?" KI is getting a huge coaster. Its "wow" worthy anytime a park gets such a large addition when they already have so many coasters.

 

As for the " lunch coaster" mentioned a few posts back. I'll be on the first train out if they install one of those.

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so many people crapping on the name a size of the ride. that's cool if you don't like it but I personally like what they are doing and can't wait to see what the other announcement is and what is inside the shed. I am failing to see why Mystic Timbers is a bad name. I also see a good speed wooden coaster that hugs the terrain in a somewhat secluded area with a bunch of pops of airtime from a company that has been known to deliver a quality product.

 

I would have preferred an RMC as well as most of you however I am a lot more happy that this isn't just another B&M (unless it happened to be Fury 2.0)

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Isn't 3 trains unusual for a GCI? I thought most of them had two. That being the case, the rendering looks like the coaster may have an unloading station to help with capacity. I could see this as being a reality, since KI has really put a focus on capacity this season. Or at least that's the impression I have gotten after reading a few TR's.

It is unusual because rides without a MCBR don't need three trains as one will always be waiting outside the station or even two on slow dispatches. GCI rides don't usefully have a MCBR so don't need the extra train. HOWEVER, this coaster seems to have a dual station on it, with load and unload, allowing it to have more trains, to speed up dispatches without a useless train. Should have a good throughput.

Wodan at Europa Park is running three trains with one station without stacking, so it is possible to do it

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It is unusual because rides without a MCBR don't need three trains as one will always be waiting outside the station or even two on slow dispatches.

 

You don't need a midcourse or an unload station to run 3 trains. There's a pre lift section and if it had a variable speed lift it would be fine. There's another coaster in the same park that runs 3 trains without a midcourse (Banshee). Fury does the same thing.

 

But really the 3 trains thing tells me that whatever happens in that building might take awhile. I guess it's some kind of show scene.

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But really the 3 trains thing tells me that whatever happens in that building might take awhile. I guess it's some kind of show scene.

 

It will probably be full of Pokemons for the riders to catch.

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My biggest questions here are the train stats: Three trains; four riders per car and six cars per train. Whatever's in the shed must allow for three-train operation with minimal/no stacking. Also, the four riders/car and six cars/train do not sound like the typical millennium flyers to me. Maybe a typo or are these a new generation?

 

And then: Race for your life Charlie Brown: what is the status of the log flume?

 

Can't wait to hear how the night ride compares to Beast, especially with the contents of the shed. My prediction: a lot of fluffy, fluffy bunnies filled with medicine and goo.

 

In the 3d renderings of the ride, they featured normal millennium flyer trains. However, in the screenshots there were trains that almost looked like New Texas Giant or Verbolten trains. However, to me it looks like a photoshop job more than anything. They likely don't have the trains they are actually using available in NL2 or whatever software they are using for the renderings, hence the millennium flyers rather than the true trains being used.

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Cedar Fair is developing a pattern here.

 

2013 - Cedar Point new coaster

2014 - Kings Island new coaster

2015 - Carowinds new coaster

2016 - Cedar Point new coaster

2017 - Kings Island new coaster

2018 - ???Carowinds new coaster???

 

Although I still think somebody is getting a new B&M next year too. Probably Canada's Wonderland.

 

Anyways, I love GCI's...I'd love to see one at every Cedar Fair park.

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Three years between new coasters at two parks is not a pattern, it's a slight (almost expected) coincidence. You need more examples than two for a pattern. That's like cutting a piece of wood roughly in half and calling it a puzzle.

 

I'm skeptical about a new B&M. Those don't just pop up randomly, usually it's very obvious at this point and little of a surprise and the fact that nobody's heard anything from anywhere is telling.

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Three years between new coasters at two parks is not a pattern, it's a slight (almost expected) coincidence. You need more examples than two for a pattern. That's like cutting a piece of wood roughly in half and calling it a puzzle.

 

I'm skeptical about a new B&M. Those don't just pop up randomly, usually it's very obvious at this point and little of a surprise and the fact that nobody's heard anything from anywhere is telling.

 

 

I agree, not a pattern yet...But developing...Maybe. And if Cedar Fair is getting a new B&M somewhere, they've done a good job keeping it quiet. I am curious who's getting this new green B&M tho.

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