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I guess my point is that if they don't appeal to people from a little further away, that might make winterfest a total bust and a loss of money, making them cut it off after a year or two like last time.

 

If they don't open some coasters after watching the success that Six Flags is having with Holiday in the Park, the enormous lines that Superdooperlooper had in the winter, the huge lines for Thunderbolt at Coney Island in the winter, the success of Dollywood in the winter and the popularity of Verbolten in the winter at the BGW event then they deserve to fail.

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Get over it man.  You've made your point and we get it; it's silly that this park did not do a Winterfest-lite.  Make the 8 hour drive to KD if you want to experience that, just like all of us with KD

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I guess my point is that if they don't appeal to people from a little further away, that might make winterfest a total bust and a loss of money, making them cut it off after a year or two like last time.

 

If they don't open some coasters after watching the success that Six Flags is having with Holiday in the Park then they deserve to fail.

 

Very true.... I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

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I wonder if our platinum passes get us into winterfest?

 

Actually as I'm reading facebook, it looks like people are saying Winterfest will be included with your gold/platinum passes.

I don't understand why people keep asking about this. It says RIGHT ON THE INFO PAGE....

 

Operating dates, hours and ticket prices for WinterFest will be announced at a later date. The event will be included free for 2017 Gold and Platinum season passholders.

 

More details: https://www.visitkingsisland.com/what-s-new/winterfest

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Thanks for the link Robb.

 

The information I had did not mention it. After looking at the official release, it looks like it's only included for 2017 platinum pass holders...not 2016.

 

And that would be becuase the event will not open until Fall of 2017.

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Thanks for the link Robb.

 

The information I had did not mention it. After looking at the official release, it looks like it's only included for 2017 platinum pass holders...not 2016.

 

And that would be becuase the event will not open until Fall of 2017.

 

True, but I didn't think you're 2016 pass expired until the end of the year. I've used a current year pass at Knotts in the past during December .

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Thanks for the link Robb.

 

The information I had did not mention it. After looking at the official release, it looks like it's only included for 2017 platinum pass holders...not 2016.

 

And that would be becuase the event will not open until Fall of 2017.

 

True, but I didn't think you're 2016 pass expired until the end of the year. I've used a current year pass at Knotts in the past during December .

 

You're right, it doesn't expire until the end of the year (12/31/2016). Your 2016 pass is irrelevant for an event not occurring until 2017.

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It's only relevant if it has an expiration date on it next year. I would hope that it doesn't, as we may be visiting family in California next December and it would be nice to use it at Knotts.

 

Not sure I would drive 4.5 hours to have to pay to get in with no attractions.

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I don't get the complaining. The original Winterfest they held basically had the same attractions open - carousel and the train - and it was still very popular. This is basically what they are doing here. Given that winters up here can be harsher compared to places like Dollywood and Carowinds, this will at least be something to look forward to during the holiday season and would be worth the drive from Cleveland.

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Given that winters up here can be harsher compared to places like Dollywood and Carowinds

 

Yeah but they're about on par with Hershey, PA and Jackson, NJ. That's why people are complaining. Those parks are running coasters, and in Great Adventure's case they're running a hypercoaster. Kings Island should follow their lead and the success they're having.

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Kings Island sends their wooden trains back to PTC every off-season, so I wonder if they couldn't have them back in time. But again, other parks are able to put these winter events on with limited rides.

 

But yes, I think having a major E-Ticket ride open will help gain more traffic to the park during this time. We'll wait and see.

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I don't get the complaining. The original Winterfest they held basically had the same attractions open - carousel and the train - and it was still very popular. This is basically what they are doing here. Given that winters up here can be harsher compared to places like Dollywood and Carowinds, this will at least be something to look forward to during the holiday season and would be worth the drive from Cleveland.

I think the complaining is due to the fact that we've seen places like SFGAdv run a bunch of coasters in the extreme cold, so now we are expecting other places to do the same. I think a lot of people are thinking, "If Great Adventure can run Nitro during the winter, why can't KI run Diamondback in the winter? The temperatures are about the same for both parks

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Kings Island sends their wooden trains back to PTC every off-season, so I wonder if they couldn't have them back in time.

 

 

But they don't need to open the wood coasters if they don't want. Diamondback should really run though. It's right in the kids area (which should really be open).

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Adventure express could be an option. And let's not forget that they have an indoor coaster as well. Backlot coaster and the kiddy coasters might be another option.

 

Rides that could run in the weather regardless of the cold temperatures...

 

Boo hill....could also do a Christmas overlay

Bumper cars

Scrambler

Monster

Flying eagles

Pipe scream

Kiddy rides

Pirate boat

Triple play

 

Rides I wouldn't want to ride in sub zero temps...

 

Wind seeker

Delirium

Any coaster over 100 feet

Water rides

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Adventure express could be an option. And let's not forget that they have an indoor coaster as well. Backlot coaster and the kiddy coasters might be another option.

 

Rides that could run in the weather regardless of the cold temperatures...

 

Boo hill....could also do a Christmas overlay

Bumper cars

Scrambler

Monster

Flying eagles

Pipe scream

Kiddy rides

Pirate boat

Triple play

 

Rides I wouldn't want to ride in sub zero temps...

 

Wind seeker

Delirium

Any coaster over 100 feet

Water rides

 

They'll need to section off the park so they don't have to staff / decorate / plow all of it so anything near the back of the park is probably out, but things near the front (like Diamondback sans splashdown) should really run. Windseeker has no chance of opening because of it's location but Sky Screamer at Great Adventure was very popular due to the desire to see the lights from above. The ferris wheel had huge lines for the same reason.

 

A ride like Windseeker feels much colder than a coaster. You'd be surprised how the cold doesn't bother you much on a coaster since you're focused on enjoying the ride (until you hit the brake run when you realize how cold you really are), but with a ride like Windseeker / Sky Screamer it's freezing. I'd still take it for a ride though.

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Kings Island sends their wooden trains back to PTC every off-season, so I wonder if they couldn't have them back in time. But again, other parks are able to put these winter events on with limited rides.

 

But yes, I think having a major E-Ticket ride open will help gain more traffic to the park during this time. We'll wait and see.

 

Kings Island does the PTC maintenance in house. Cedar Point sends the trains off.

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^ Really? I swear I saw it somewhere that PTC rebuilds the trains for them every year.

 

Anyway, I've been to the parks on enough cold days in october to where it took well into the late afternoon before the steel coasters could run but all of the wood ones were operating, so naturally, I'd figure the park would at least have those operating. But if winterfest is a afternoon to evening event, it could be warm enough.

 

Just thinking, people.

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A ride like Windseeker feels much colder than a coaster. You'd be surprised how the cold doesn't bother you much on a coaster since you're focused on enjoying the ride (until you hit the brake run when you realize how cold you really are), but with a ride like Windseeker / Sky Screamer it's freezing. I'd still take it for a ride though.

 

My wife and I rode Windseeker last year during a cold, Haunt night... It was a HUGE mistake! Almost as soon as we started up, we regretted the decision, and couldn't wait for the ride to end!

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^^ It is actually easy to check. PTC provides a list complete with pictures and dates on what trains have been sent back on their website. They currently have details going back to 2011.

 

I do not remember Kings Island ever running any of the coasters during Winterfest in the past. With the event 15 months away the park has plent of time to add additional attractions. If the park wants they can run the coasters when it is below freezing if they add brake heaters and heaters below the station to keep the wheels and lubricants on the train hot. Assuming they can get permission from the manufacturers. Ohio state law requires parks to follow all manufacturers guidelines.

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(Diamondback sans splashdown) should really run.

 

Or they could let the pond freeze and take down the fence so people could go out there. Sell cups and flavored syrup. Boom: Build your own Sno-Cones.

 

Or they could fill the pond with Hot chocolate since it'll be cold and it's self-serve hot chocolate.

 

Step 1: sell cups - step 2:? - step 3: profit! The options are endless!

 

Forgive me... it's a slow Friday at work...

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I'm going to the park this weekend with a friend for my sister's soccer tournament. We'll be there both Saturday and Sunday. How crowded do you guys think it'll be? Would we need a fast lane? It's supposed to rain quite a bit Saturday so I'm hoping that might scare off crowds.

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As a worker at the park and I've talked to people from other rides. IM GLAD TRAIN AND CAROUSEL ARE THE ONLY RIDES OPEN. the last day in 2014, nothing was opened because it was like 20 degrees. 3/4 of the rides at Ki cannot operate under either 35 degrees or 45 degrees. We'll leave it at that.

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As a worker at the park and I've talked to people from other rides. IM GLAD TRAIN AND CAROUSEL ARE THE ONLY RIDES OPEN. the last day in 2014, nothing was opened because it was like 20 degrees. 3/4 of the rides at Ki cannot operate under either 35 degrees or 45 degrees. We'll leave it at that.

 

Nah they can run, you just have to want it bad enough. Six Flags Great Adventure blew that whole "minimum temperature limit on B&M's" thing all the way to hell where it belongs last winter.

 

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Maybe our coasters are different because they're Jersey Strong. Lol (spoiler alert: they're not, man up Cedar Fair, stop listening to B&M. That's boring).

 

PS: 30 degrees is a god damn heat wave. We ride it when it was in the 20's too. They didn't close a single ride because of low temps for the entire event and the world didn't end.

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