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P. 1989: Wicked Twister's permanent closure announced!

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The Sandusky Register leaked the ride's identity months ago. It's cool that they got lots of people to play along with a game of "What is it gonna be?" since then. But how many people really had doubt after that?

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Even if some park was to do a VR coaster, why would you do it on a 200 foot dive machine? Can't even believe this discussion is happening.

 

Its going to happen on some coaster in the Cedar Fair chain very soon. Just as a test though. And it won't be this one BECAUSE it says existing coaster.

 

Which makes me wonder if this VR will be on a coaster at Cedar Point and they'll announce the "test" for this fall on the same day?

 

Article: http://www.toledoblade.com/Retail/2015/08/05/Cedar-Fair-ride-to-test-tech-thrills.html

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I feel like the VR idea is more of an upcharge idea... You can ride the ride in reality, or for $15 or so you can ride it with a VR headset and experience it in a virtual world...

 

And Robb, I feel the same way... The ride layout is only part of the experience, hopefully we will see some nice theming (like we have seen with Banshee and Rougarou) it would be great to see Cedar Fair go a little more into theming in the future!

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If I ran a park, I would be worried about the VR headsets getting damaged. If somebody gets motion sickness mid-ride, and tries to take it off, what if they drop it? It would most likely break and could cause injury to other riders. Or somebody could just be an a**hole and throw/break them on purpose. I could just see some sweaty jock already saying "Yo, I'm gonna throw this and see how many pieces it breaks into"

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If I ran a park, I would be worried about the VR headsets getting damaged. If somebody gets motion sickness mid-ride, and tries to take it off, what if they drop it? It would most likely break and could cause injury to other riders. Or somebody could just be an a**hole and throw/break them on purpose. I could just see some sweaty jock already saying "Yo, I'm gonna throw this and see how many pieces it breaks into"

 

I'm sure the park is well aware of the dangers it could cause. However, loose articles are not permitted on rides. It would be best to install them directly onto the restraints, this would be easiest with OTSR.

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My dark horse projection is that Slash will show up at the announcement and perform a few VR licks.

 

I love google image search. But this ruins my assumption that his top hat was in fact glued to his scalp.

 

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I predict a two part announcement.

1. Valravn dive coaster

2. Adding VR to Mean Streak to show you a better layout.

 

VR to mean streak!? It wouldn't matter what layout you think your on, your still getting the $hit beat out of you! I would think a ride like Iron Dragon would be more suitable.

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I wonder if the lack of a splash has anything to do with the ridiculous amount of wind they get at the park. Maverick frequently has to shut off the cannons since they blast everyone on the midway on windy days. With a splashdown section like this there wouldn't be anything they could do (though knowing them the ride may close in high winds anyway).

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Considering they would need to make an artificial pond for a splashdown, couldn't they just put in a drainage system that adjusts the water level if needed? This way the splashdown could work on hot days, and it could be lessened or shut down on cool/windy days.

 

I'm pretty sure that Mack has a system like that for their flumes and water coasters to adjust the splash it creates.

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I wonder if the lack of a splash has anything to do with the ridiculous amount of wind they get at the park. Maverick frequently has to shut off the cannons since they blast everyone on the midway on windy days. With a splashdown section like this there wouldn't be anything they could do (though knowing them the ride may close in high winds anyway).

 

Well the trees could help out by blocking the.... oh wait, forget it.

 

(sorry, had to!)

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I wonder if the lack of a splash has anything to do with the ridiculous amount of wind they get at the park.

Or them not wanting to get electronic VR headsets wet?

 

That brings up a good point, they might not be able to run a coaster with VR electronics in the rain... But who am I kidding, Cedar Point doesn't run coasters in the rain anyway!

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Nobody has pointed this out, but The Cedar Point logo thing from the leaked Valravn logo matches the one on the box that was sent to Robb.

 

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Edit: I should say that I believed the leak was real when it came out, but this is for those who were hoping it wasn't real. I guess you could look at it two ways. 1.) Everything that was leaked was real. 2.) The park is messing with us, which is high doubtful IMO. Don't get me wrong, I do realize that Tony and his crew at CP do like to mess with the enthusiasts from time to time, but I don't think the park would go through all the trouble to build all that stuff into a app just to mess with us.

The helmet/spikes match the symbol on the most recent package rob was sent. (Sorry if this was already pointed out?)
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I also feel like Tony Clark has been much quieter on Twitter than usual lately.. I wonder if that's because of them not being able to hint too much because of this leak...

I'm sure it's a bit of both. Honestly, I feel bad for their team right now. Imagine if you were building up to one of your key moments of the year, only to have it broken by something that is not really in your control. I mean, from what I understand, the leak happened because someone hacked into the new VR app, right? That's not cool and not the way they wanted things to happen. For me, I know it puts me in a tough spot because on one hand, I'd prefer to totally ignore the leak, pretend it's not there, and just go along with the announcement because that would be the right thing to do, but at the same time, it's impossible to ignore it and we would get crap for pretending it didn't happen.

 

You just have to also put some faith in the park that maybe there will be things about the ride that we don't know about - the theming, the surrounding area, the design of the trains, etc, that will come out at the announcement and also be exciting to hear.

 

And just on top of all that, new ride announcements are simply "cool" even if we already know what it's going to be.

 

So yeah, I don't blame them for being a bit quiet and I'm still looking forward to the announcement regardless!

I'm looking forward to the announcement as well, since Dive Machines are Dive Machines, and are great rides regardless of whether or not the hype train suffers a fuel leak right before the last stop on the 18th.

I wonder if Cedar Point will start printing shirts with "the four floorless beasts" or the "three great birds", especially considering the fact that their lineup will soon feature four B&M coasters, three of which are themed to birds.

...new ride announcements are simply "cool" even if we already know what it's going to be.

Very true.
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Something I've been thinking about, tossing around the idea in my mind...

I wonder if Cedar Point would consider building another speed/mega coaster (in the traditional sense) anytime in the near future, as long as Magnum is still standing.

They've already touted their 2020 project for their anniversary, and given that, if a park has one, speed coasters are often times the most popular "e-ticket" ride in the park, the idea at least comes to mind, even it isnt realistic.

The fact is they're running out of B&M designs to choose from (assuming a new one isn't in development) and an I-boxed Mean Streak doesnt seem like something they'd choose as their huge anniversary project coming up.

This is probably a ridiculously stupid idea and I shouldn't have posted it, but regardless I'm still curious what the general consensus on this is. Are two hyper/speed coasters the limit for a single park?

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