Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

[Coaster Hero]

Definite is a strong word, but it's pretty obvious that they're getting a coaster for next year. 85-90% chance in my opinion.

[Password121]

Definite is a strong word, but it's pretty obvious that they're getting a coaster for next year. 85-90% chance in my opinion.

I'd say the only reason they wouldn't get a coaster next year is if some contract falls through. The wording of that sign, "This history, this legacy will continue here..." to me means, 'In this location, this legacy continues.'

[DorneyKid14]

My first trip to Cedar Point was amazing! Gatekeeper is now my new favorite ride. Millennium Force and Top Thrill Dragster were amazing! Got the first train of the day on Wednesday, May 20th, on Millennium. Rode it 3 times before the lines got long! Rougarou was good! Maverick was awesome! was closed all of Wednesday Raptor was good, corkscrew was a favorite, and Magnum was so rough. Woodens were okay.

Very nice sign there!

Few lights out on the lift but still beautiful

Me in front of the gatekeeper sign.

So high!

so many awards...

... and more awards!!!

From the sky ride

and through the key hole they go!!

[FaithPlus1]

I love Cedar Point

[boldikus]

We had an absolutely fantastic Memorial Day weekend on our first ever trip to Cedar Point and staying @ Hotel Breakers. Great weather, BBQ/Beer fest was awesome, great park, amazing rides. Crowded, but nothing FL+ couldn't handle. Longest we waited was maybe 20 minutes and we rode everything we wanted to and then some. Such a killer line-up, I think I have a new #1.

 

Massive report w/ photos coming this week (including our stop at Kennywood on Friday).

 

p.s. Great to meet you and your other half @coasterbill, we enjoyed sharing that WT ride with you two!

[Password121]

^Glad you had a great time, as you should at Cedar Point.

So, are talking Maverick, or a Millennium night ride? I know you're a Skyrush fan, so Maverick wouldn't surprise me, but both are world class rides.

[boldikus]

I love that you assume it's one of those two haha. ^ Because you are right!

 

Maverick was my ride of the weekend, the one I rode once and then couldn't stop thinking about going back to. So we did. Repeatedly. Our whole group loved it. Both Sat and Sun early entry that's where I was. It is just absolute perfection, everything I could possibly want in a coaster (save for a huge drop, but the drop is perfect just the way it is.) Now keep in mind I have no idea what it rode like with the old restraints, but having ridden Kingda Ka, Storm Runner, Fahrenheit, etc I can imagine. We all LOVED the restraints. Hands up all the way every time. Even the missus who sometimes has neck issues and I was worried about her riding, was fine riding it and said she liked the restraints.

 

Millennium on the other hand had a lot of expectations to live up to - it's been a coaster I've wanted to ride for a lot longer, I've watched the POV a million times, Travel Channel things about it, etc. We did it once Saturday afternoon and then again the same time on Sunday. We sat back row both rides. Its about the drop and the speed, I've read lots of people say there is no/little airtime and I don't agreed with that. I was out of my seat the entire way down the drop. Felt very long. The two big airtime hills have amazing extended floater air, and the little pop by the station is nice. Speaking of which, LOVED standing next to that - it really does haul ass around that last turn into the breaks. Both rides were great, but not OMFGBESTEVER great. Feels like a lot of energy is wasted at the end and much of the ride is focused on fast turns. Not a bad thing, its just a preference thing.

 

HOWEVER based on yours and other advice, me and my bro-in-law made plans to head back to it Sunday night at 9:45ish to hop on for a night ride. Surprising to us was that it was still a fairly bright sky until 9:30ish as we walked over. We managed to get two rides - one at around 9:50, and then ran around and got on again at 10:05, both back seat again and I'm not sure if its because it was finally actually dark by then, but that thing felt like it was FLYING compared to earlier. Those last two rides - the last rides of the weekend - were easily OMFGBESTEVER type of experiences. A bit buggy, but amazing.

 

If not for Maverick, Millennium would have been my favorite ride of the weekend.

Edited May 26, 2015 by boldikus

[Password121]

We must be the same person... Lol

Those are almost exactly my thoughts on those rides. My top two favorites at Cedar Point. Maverick at any time of the day is an incredible, intense, "mini-I305" type of ride. One of my favorites, no question.

Millennium, on the other hand, can be "meh" on a cooler day, or when it's not warmed up. When MF is hauling, though, it's on another level. My last two rides were EXACTLY the same as your last two--one just before 10 pm, the other after closing, both in the last row. Those two rides are what put MF at night above Maverick for me; but maybe I'm also just a little more sentimental, or whatever you'd want to call it. Looking at the individual elements and the average ride each coaster gives, Maverick is better for me. But for some reason, just as some say about the Beast, Millennium comes alive at night, like it's saying "Look what I can still do." It's unforgettable, and one of my favorite memories of my (still going) childhood.

[anonymouscactus]

Those "new" trains on Millennium Force may just be having a placebo effect, but I definitely had more airtime than I've ever felt before over all the hills after the first drop. What I used to think was a 'meh' ride was turned into a fantastic one the other day

[coasterbill]

We spent all day Friday, Saturday and Sunday and had an awesome time as always. I'll spare everyone the long trip report and just go with a few highlights...

 

- It was awesome meeting boldikus and the crew, you guys were a blast.

 

- Rougarou was awesome! I had moderate expectations since the last part of Mantis just kind of meandered around without doing much of anything. I figured the ride would be a fun, forceless addition to the park and I would have been thrilled since that's a huge step up from Mantis but I actually have a few favorite floorless coaster. Without the trim on the first drop this ride absolutely hauls through the course. The dive loop and incline loop are taken at ridiculous speeds and the turn before the hill into the mid course is almost Maverick like. I can't believe they turned a piece of garbage like Mantis into this awesome, awesome (and very smooth) coaster. Great job Cedar Point!!!!

 

- I know I already said this, but "smartestcoasterkidever!" is my hero. I never liked Magnum... ever. But when we sat near the back of the train in a non wheel seat and tightened the belt as much as possible the ride was really, really enjoyable because the belt prevented the usual thigh crushing. Then we tried the same trick in the ejector seat and it still worked and provided an awesome ride full of ridiculous ejector air. It took over 10 years but Magnum finally made me a believer.

 

- Hi haters! How is everyone doing on this fine morning? Okay so get ready for this... Mean Streak provided it's usual butter smooth, fun ride like it ALWAYS DOES every time we ride it. Do you have to sit in the front seat and lean forward? Absolutely. Is this a stupid way to ride a coaster? Yes. But does it work? Absolutely.

 

I won't be sad if they RMC this ride and I won't deny that the ride doesn't do much of anything but taking a ride through this awesome structure is a lot of fun and I'll never understand the hatred for this ride. I know many people feel like you shouldn't have to know how to ride a coaster to enjoy it and that's a fair point but I don't mind. I like Mean Streak.

 

- Maverick's new restraints are great but the old ones never bothered me either. Kudos to Cedar Point for doing something to improve the ride experience. There aren't enough words to describe how awesome Maverick is.

 

- Operations were very good across the board, Cedar Point always has great employees.

 

- Their coaster lineup is really second to none. Gatekeeper, Wicked Twister, Magnum, Rougarou and Dragster are all top level rides and Raptor, Maverick and Millennium Force are flat out amazing. There's still nothing like a front seat night ride on Millennium Force. The only sub-par coaster in the bunch is Corkscrew but it's still not THAT bad and I love the way it looks over the midway.

 

Overall we had a great time at Cedar Point. With the great location, great rides and great staff this is absolutely one of our favorite parks to visit.

[Texascoaster89]

Yes, I believe those new trains could be having a small effect. Glad to hear those who visited had a great time! Being from Texas, I visited for the first time last year and I also had the same thoughts about Millennium Force. I had all these expectations and I personally feel it lived up to them! I visited a few weeks ago and got 10 rides including the last train at midnight during ERT for pass holders and it was HAULING. There's no way it was 93 mph at the bottom and the airtime on all 10 rides a few weeks ago was fantastic!

 

I know I've posted this already, but those new Maverick restraints REALLY helped me out. Being a visitor from a ways away, it helps when rides are more comfortable. Last year as much as I enjoyed Maverick, it was a bit of a pain to fully enjoy it. My visit a few weeks ago it was great to hop on and off at will and hold my arms up the whole time, it really creates a great experience!

[RCjunkie]

I won't be sad if they RMC this ride and I won't deny that the ride doesn't do much of anything but taking a ride through this awesome structure is a lot of fun and I'll never understand the hatred for this ride. I know many people feel like you shouldn't have to know how to ride a coaster to enjoy it and that's a fair point but I don't mind. I like Mean Streak.

 

Most people who ride Mean Streak hate it because it is a bad and painful ride. How can you not understand that? Just because you like it that doesn't change the ride for those people.

[boldikus]

I was gonna save it for the full report but I'll go on record as saying Mean Streak was hands down the WORST coaster we rode all weekend at both CP and Kennywood (and we rode some old ass woodies @ KW). One and done and never again.

 

Just completely awful. No airtime, trimmed to death drop, I felt like I was being beaten by a gang of thugs. We rode it toward the front - back of first car I think? We were all horrified when it kept going after the MCBR. Lots of talk about fire after this one. Its a shame because it LOOKS really cool, but you couldn't pay me to get back on that thing. Not a single redeeming quality.

 

Blue Streak on the other hand we all thought was awesome. We actually rode it and loved it so much we walked right around and rode it again.

[coasterbill]

Most people who ride Mean Streak hate it because it is a bad and painful ride. How can you not understand that?

 

I guess because I don't ever ride anywhere other than the front and stay off of the seat back. When you do that the ride is incredibly smooth (like smoother than Blue Streak smooth though I don't consider Blue Streak rough... I love Blue Streak). Maybe saying "I don't understand the hate" was the wrong way to phrase it, but personally I like the ride even though it is sort of a stupid way to ride a coaster.

[coasternut]

^^ I totally agree with your comments of M.S. - hate it! Blue Streak is my favorite ride in the park. Normally never a line, plus lots of airtime for 78'...

[jcookeusa]

I have to agree with coasterbill about Mean Streak. I had read everyone saying it was terribly painful, but I loved it. I think I did heed the warnings to not ride in the back and keep my back off of the seat, but I really never noticed any pain. I was somewhere in the middle of the train and definitely anticipated the turns, but it was a great ride -- and wonderfully long! I felt that Magnum was a much worse ride (maybe that's everyone's experience? ) -- especially those jerky bumps at the end.

 

Honestly, Blue Streak was rougher than Mean Streak for me. I guess it all comes down to body size/mass and how we individually handle the bump/turn anticipation. For reference, I'm ~200lbs and 6'1". Oh, and I enjoyed those barely-there lines for Mean Streak!

[michaellynn4]

I was gonna save it for the full report but I'll go on record as saying Mean Streak was hands down the WORST coaster we rode all weekend at both CP and Kennywood (and we rode some old A$$ woodies @ KW). One and done and never again.

 

Just completely awful. No airtime, trimmed to death drop, I felt like I was being beaten by a gang of thugs. We rode it toward the front - back of first car I think? We were all horrified when it kept going after the MCBR. Lots of talk about fire after this one. Its a shame because it LOOKS really cool, but you couldn't pay me to get back on that thing. Not a single redeeming quality.

 

Blue Streak on the other hand we all thought was awesome. We actually rode it and loved it so much we walked right around and rode it again.

 

My ex and I were legitimately laughing at how bad Mean Streak was as we rode it. I warned her about the negative reviews and to not expect too much, but once we hit that trim on the first drop, we couldn't hold it in. Just terrible.

[glucky11801]

My only good rides on Mean Streak came in October 1991 at the end of its first season. It had broken in nicely, and had good speed.

Of course that was before the trim brakes and reprofiling of the first drop. It was a fun ride back then!

[ajfelice]

I have ridden Mean Streak in the back, trimless and trimmed. It does have some personality that is not glass smooth, but not bad enough that I wouldn't do a re-ride if someone offered it. However, with that being said, the non-enthusiast GP typically do not like a bumpy ride, even if it isn't painful. I can totally understand the hate for this ride even though I am not one who hates it. As a business-minded thinker, eventually I would be in full support of the decision to convert or completely do away with Mean Streak.

 

All a matter of opinion, but the general opinion is that the ride is not very comfortable, and provides a hilariously uneventful ride experience like mentioned previously.

[XShortestStrawX]

So me and my brother are thinking about taking our first trip to Cedar Point since 2009 some time in mid to late June. Fridays and Saturdays are likely the only viable day options. So my questions are, what are the wait times like on those days in mid to late June? Would it be worth it to buy fast lane on those days? And if we get a hotel, would it be more worth it to just do one day w/ fast lane, or two days with no fast lane?

[Superbatboy]

Mean Streak is one of the FEW rides where I couldn't wait for it to end. And it's a lonnnnnng ride ZZZZzzzz

[coasterbill]

So me and my brother are thinking about taking our first trip to Cedar Point since 2009 some time in mid to late June. Fridays and Saturdays are likely the only viable day options. So my questions are, what are the wait times like on those days in mid to late June? Would it be worth it to buy fast lane on those days? And if we get a hotel, would it be more worth it to just do one day w/ fast lane, or two days with no fast lane?

 

Absolutely go for 2 days. No question... that way if one day is windy, rainy or a ride is down you don't miss out, plus you get 2 days at the park which is always better than one.

[boldikus]

^ What he said. Not to mention there is just so much to do besides all the coasters, its a two day+ park for sure. I could have easily spent a third day there this past weekend. And splurge on the FL+. I can't imagine going to this park and only doing some of the rides because I spent all my time waiting.

[Nwstone]

Blue Streak is half and half with me, when I rode it it provided great airtime, but it was extremely painful. I guess I still kind of enjoyed it, but oh my god it felt like I had to tense up the whole ride in order to not break anything. I remember I rode in the very back car, I can't remember which seat. Did anyone have an extremely rough experience in that seat?

[DoinItForTheFame]

So my brother and I are thinking about taking our first trip to Cedar Point since 2009 some time in mid to late June. Fridays and Saturdays are likely the only viable day options. So my questions are, what are the wait times like on those days in mid to late June? Would it be worth it to buy fast lane on those days? And if we get a hotel, would it be more worth it to just do one day w/ fast lane, or two days with no fast lane?

Wait times on a Friday/Saturday in mid to late June are going to be on the high end. A lot of people hitting the park for summer vacation. If I were you I would get a hotel, and Fast Lane Plus for both days. However, that adds up fast. If you wanted to make it a one day trip, and still get to do everything without having to wait... Consider doing a VIP tour. You could get everything done in one day, all of your food and drink is included, and you would not have to wait for anything. A VIP Tour is the only way to make Cedar Point a one day trip! Either way you go you're still going to have a great visit!