Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

[Mossed]

Wow...just went online to purchase platinum passes for my family, and it's nearly $1000 for a family of 4.

 

Better hit up those parks repeatedly to make it worth the cost!

[grsupercity]

I know I am going to get some backlash for this, and I am totally fine with that. I think CP should get a 4th dem coaster. I think RMC/S&S could make a very sweet coaster. I saw how the magnets control the flips on BTR at SFFT and I can imagine what they could come up with on a larger full circuit coaster!

[Password121]

I'd rather they develop the concept a little more before CP considers one. At this point they are very low capacity and may just seem like a "gimmicky" Gatekeeper to Cedar Point guests. I'd rather see an I-boxed Mean Streak before a 4D.

 

Also, what happened to the B&M 4D wing coaster rumors? I think Gatekeeper was originally rumored to be that, but it evolved into a concept in the planning stage (in the rumor mill), but I haven't heard anything the last year or so.

[DJeXeL]

Maybe B&M wasn't a fan of the rotating seats.

[coasterchitchat]

Maybe B&M wasn't a fan of the rotating seats.

I've heard that they will eventually do the 4D coaster, but they want to do the wing coaster first.

[DJeXeL]

Possibility. S&S still owns the patents (via Arrow acquisition) for the "X Rail" I believe. B&M will have to find a different means of seat rotation. I have no doubt whatever they come up with will be smoother than the S&S/Arrow 4D coasters.

[coasterchitchat]

I have no doubt whatever they come up with will be smoother than the S&S/Arrow 4D coasters.

 

 

Got that right. The first one should run well.

[ImNotOneOfYou]

This is probably unlikely, but I did some measuring and a large scale ZacSpin like Insane can fit behind Millennium Force's first turn

[MagnumFreak25]

For some reason I've always wanted to see a 4d at CP. It's seems like it would be a good addition providing a fun ride while being gimmicky enough to draw in the crowds.

[Iron Wolf 90-11]

What is the large concrete area beneath and behind Millenniums last turn used for?

[BigDipper 80]

^That used to be queue space from when the ride opened. They don't use it any more, so it just sits empty.

[DonGeorge]

This is probably unlikely, but I did some measuring and a large scale ZacSpin like Insane can fit behind Millennium Force's first turn

I remember watching this Cedar Point documentary on Youtube and they had a bunch of coaster concepts on the wall. One of them was a few Zacspin layouts.

Here it is.

[MagnumFreak25]

Is that a launched Zacspin

[Vonni]

I dont feel like a Zacspin or a Freespin would be right for Cedar Point. It just doesn't seem like a fit.

[DarienLaker]

I dont feel like a Zacspin or a Freespin would be right for Cedar Point. It just doesn't seem like a fit.

 

Unless that ZacSpin of Freespin coaster was a unique custom model made just for Cedar Point that can't really be "cloned"!

[FaithPlus1]

CP is not going to waste time with a stupid Zacspin.

They're for smaller parks who don't have the funds for a monster coaster. Magic Mountain only got one as a cheap way to increase their coaster count.

[grsupercity]

I was thinking of a large custom 4d coaster, with RMC track.

[scbt]

Is that a launched Zacspin

 

If I recall correctly, the initial zacspin prototypes were launched.

[ImNotOneOfYou]

CP is not going to waste time with a stupid Zacspin.

They're for smaller parks who don't have the funds for a monster coaster. Magic Mountain only got one as a cheap way to increase their coaster count.

 

I think Grona Lund got one because ZacSpins are compact, and they are great at managing their space. If they had room for a big coaster, they probably would have went with that.

[Snowyowl1028]

 

Also, what happened to the B&M 4D wing coaster rumors? I think Gatekeeper was originally rumored to be that, but it evolved into a concept in the planning stage (in the rumor mill), but I haven't heard anything the last year or so.

 

They can always replace the trains if they feel the need to, however I don't think they would consider it for a long time.

[ImNotOneOfYou]

 

Also, what happened to the B&M 4D wing coaster rumors? I think Gatekeeper was originally rumored to be that, but it evolved into a concept in the planning stage (in the rumor mill), but I haven't heard anything the last year or so.

 

They can always replace the trains if they feel the need to, however I don't think they would consider it for a long time.

 

I don't think they would add rotating seats to a Wing Coaster. Wing coasters are meant to mimic flying, and adding rotating seats would probably ruin that feeling

[Password121]

 

Also, what happened to the B&M 4D wing coaster rumors? I think Gatekeeper was originally rumored to be that, but it evolved into a concept in the planning stage (in the rumor mill), but I haven't heard anything the last year or so.

 

They can always replace the trains if they feel the need to, however I don't think they would consider it for a long time.

So, I assume you know the engineering involved in replacing trains on a coaster already much more complex than a traditional sitting coaster, with trains requiring even more precise engineering and calculations of forces? You cannot change the style of trains that easily; the Mantis to Rougarou conversion was the first example of this on a B&M (excluding Sheikra which is different), and I presume it is because Mantis was designed for a variable heartline as a stand up model in the first place, allowing for floorless/sit down trains.

[chargersmichael]

Here is a PointCast Update on Hotel Breakers from Tony Clark at Cedar Point!

 

[Iron Wolf 90-11]

Crazy to think that it will be open for business in around 2 months. Still a lot of work to do, but so far it's looking great.

[thrillrider]

We already made reservations for opening weekend.