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P. 2017: Top Thrill Dragster RETIRED!?!?!?

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I know it does hold a pretty long line in the morning most days, but I've almost never seen it over 30 minutes in the afternoon or at night. It just doesn't seem like it needs to be on the more expensive version.

 

Putting Gatekeeper on the Fast Lane and FL+ makes those services look like a better bargain and will thus sell more of them. Remember the motivation is making money, so putting a coaster on FL but not FL+ reduces the perceived value of FL+.

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I was pretty happy that they added Maverick to FastLane Plus. It should of been done in the first place due to its sub-par capacity, but it's on there now so that's good. I do have a feeling though that once the new coaster comes in (whenever that will be) Gatekeeper and Rougarou will probably be taken off of Plus. Maverick and Dragster though will always remain.

 

FastLane changes periodically, as I remember seeing Gatekeeper not on FastLane Plus early in the season, then they re-added it later. It really doesn't need the Plus bottleneck as we've seen it can easily push 2mil+ people a season, but because it has the newness factor to it, it'll stay on there until the next coaster rolls along.

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They know how to make money for sure. I just wish most people would quit getting up in arms over the Fast Lane passes. I'm from Texas, I get one or two visits a year and along with risking catching good weather, my expensive FL passes pay for those awesome new attractions that most get to enjoy 8-10 or more times by living in the area. I came up with a theory that most locals complain about the passes because you don't see other parks that often. I live in Dallas, TX. While SFoT isn't a bad park by any means, it doesn't have MF, or Dragster, or Gatekeeper, or a huge inverted B&M like Raptor. I'd happily wait in line if I lived near Cedar Point knowing I can come back tomorrow.

 

The snow though and those temperatures...you can keep that

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I know that my trip is a few months away...but I just have a few questions. What is the best seat for Magnum? What is the best seat for Gemini? What are the best rides to ride at night? What should be my plan for Early Entry?

Opinions on Magnum vary from 1-3 to towards the back. Personally I don't get the hype for this ride. I appreciate its history, but I found the ride to be nothing special. Not bad at all, but outdated and severaly lacking airtime (that was sitting 1-3 in the rain in August).

As for Gemini, I don't know, but let me give you my advice...

You're going to Cedar Point, and I presume you won't be back very soon or very often. With that in mind, unless counting credits matters to you (which I find somewhat stupid), don't go out of your way to ride anything other than what you truly want to wait in line for. Why waste two hours getting credits when you could get re-rides on Maverick and Millennium Force? That's the way I see it, but do what you like.

At night, you may have a good amount of time for night rides, depending on closing time. All I can say is get in a line as close to closing as possible and wait it out. I do this every single time with Millennium Force, which is the best night ride experience I've ever had.

 

During the day, Millennium Force is my number three (maybe four) coaster. At midnight in row 18, it's the best coaster experience I've had. Period.

I would also recommend Maverick, maybe Dragster if you have time. Millennium Force is a priority if you ask me, though.

 

Early entry, get to the marina gate by 8:50. Ask if you don't know where this is (go left by perimeter road towards Blue Streak, follow people). From there, head towards either MF or Maverick, and you could grab one to two rides in ten minutes. Head towards the other once you're finished, and hop in the short line. Before opening, get in line for Dragster (around 9:45), shouldn't be more than about 15 minute wait. From this point, the park has just opened to the public and you have already ridden the big three. Enjoy your ride(s).

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^Thank you so much! I honestly have no idea about some of their rides at Cedar Point and Gemini looked pretty interesting on how they seem to race each other. If the line is super long I probably won't do it. I will have 2.5 days there and want to get everything done that I want to get done and lots of re-rides. As for Magnum, I've heard of some mixed reviews of the ride from the restraints to some roughness. But it's a giant coaster over 200 feet and I kind of want to ride it haha. Thanks for the advice!

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^^Anytime! If you're curious, I would say these are must rides, especially for a 2.5 day trip...

-Millennium Force

-Maverick

-Raptor

-Top Thrill Dragster

-Gatekeeper

-Rougarou

-Magnum

 

These are good rides, but not must-do's...

-Wicked Twister (if you haven't ridden an Impulse, this might be the best one)

-Blue Streak

-Iron Dragon

-Gemini

-Flat rides-- Maxair, Windseeker, Skyhawk, Power Tower, Shoot the Rapids (if it's hot)

 

These are skippable, but if they're walk on's you might want a ride...

-Mean Streak (not very rough, just boring, and its time is limited)

-Corkscrew

-Mine Ride

-Misc flat rides

 

Again, just my opinion, feel free to ask anything else!

Not bad at all, but outdated and severaly lacking airtime

And this is Magnum you're talking about?

Yes, actually it is. Maybe I caught it on three straight bad days, but I found it sluggish on the hills before the turnaround, and the return bunny hops just weren't sustained at all. To be perfectly honest I found MF to be the better airtime coaster.

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^Thank you so much! I honestly have no idea about some of their rides at Cedar Point and Gemini looked pretty interesting on how they seem to race each other. If the line is super long I probably won't do it. I will have 2.5 days there and want to get everything done that I want to get done and lots of re-rides. As for Magnum, I've heard of some mixed reviews of the ride from the restraints to some roughness. But it's a giant coaster over 200 feet and I kind of want to ride it haha. Thanks for the advice!

 

You probably won't have to worry about not getting on rides other than break downs, but i would probably try to get everything in on the first day and save the last 1.5 for rerides. Gemini is a pretty fun ride, I'll usually go for the back row. It's not all that rough, the bottom of the first drop is the only real spot. The line shouldn't be a problem either, it's probably the highest capacity in the park so it'll move very fast. For Magnum I'll usually ride back car, middle row or occasionally in the front. I don't find it rough at all and the airtime is definitely worth a ride. Again you shouldn't have to worry all that much about the line, it generally won't get to an hour.

 

As for other rides, there aren't really rides that are un-rideable but corkscrew might give you a head ache for a little while. Everything else is worth at least a ride on and the smaller rides don't have very long lines. Check out some of the flats too. Maxair, Skyhawk and Power Tower are pretty fun.

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Magnum is my favorite coaster in the park. I recommend sitting in the second to last row. The middle row of any car will give you a significantly smoother ride since you're not directly over a wheel, and the first two drops are much better in the back of the train. Most importantly, don't staple yourself and you'll have a great ride

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^Thank you so much! I honestly have no idea about some of their rides at Cedar Point and Gemini looked pretty interesting on how they seem to race each other. If the line is super long I probably won't do it. I will have 2.5 days there and want to get everything done that I want to get done and lots of re-rides. As for Magnum, I've heard of some mixed reviews of the ride from the restraints to some roughness. But it's a giant coaster over 200 feet and I kind of want to ride it haha. Thanks for the advice!

 

If you're there for 2.5 days you should ride everything. Besides the coasters I would say Windseeker, Skyhawk and Maxair and Cedar Downs are all must rides and I highly recommend making use of the train and the Sky Ride as much as possible as 2.5 days at the park is extremely tiring as it's a huge place. The Sky Ride generally has a line all the way to the bottom of the ramp but the line moves very fast so it's a great way to get off your feet for awhile.

 

I love Power Tower too as it never has a line. Also if you don't love Witches Wheel then you're a bad person... you should feel bad. Yes, you.

 

Keep an eye on wind by the way, if you know one of your days will be windy (anything over 15 - 20 MPH on the weather report) it's likely that Sky Ride, Windseeker, Gatekeeper, Raptor and Dragster will close so plan accordingly.

 

With 2.5 days you should have no problem riding everything though with or without Fastlane.

 

Just a few general tips.

- Don't ride Gatekeeper or Raptor in the morning. You can ride them during early entry but don't do it once the park opens to the public. The lines will be WAY shorter later in the day.

 

- Ride Dragster in the front at least once. It's worth the extra hour wait.

 

- Ride Raptor in the front because the line is rarely more than 1 train longer for the front.

 

- Blue Streak can actually be pretty brutal in the wrong seat. Ride in the MIDDLE ROW of any car and you'll love it though.

 

- Mean Streak is really smooth if you sit in the very front car and lean forward keeping your back completely off the seat back. It' a stupid way to ride a coaster but it works every time.

 

- Since you mentioned Gemeni, wait until about noon to ride Gemeni as they usually don't race it first thing in the morning.

 

- If it starts raining it might be best to just walk around Frontier Trail for awhile and wait for it to stop because the rain policies on the coasters are pure idiocy. Wicked Twister is probably your best bet but even that may be closed. Mantis always used to run but Rougarou will have 3 trains rather than 2, occupying more blocks and probably putting an end to that.

 

- The food is all terrible so only eat at Franchises that they brought in like Chick Fil A. Famous Daves in the Marina and TGI Fridays at Breakers are great though, I recommend sitting outside at both restaurants.

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If Magnum doesn't have enough airtime for you, you are the problem. Magnum has insain airtime. Infact, many people think the airtime on the return run is TOO intense (But then say GK is forceless ).

 

Maggie is arguably one of the best coasters in the park. In my opinion, its likely one of the best coasters in the world. But then again, I'm a big fan of Arrows.

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If Magnum doesn't have enough airtime for you, you are the problem. Magnum has insain airtime. Infact, many people think the airtime on the return run is TOO intense (But then say GK is forceless ).

 

Magnum is arguably one of the best coasters in the park. In my opinion, its likely one of the best coasters in the world. But then again, I'm a big fan of Arrows.

Well, maybe I am the problem. I'm not saying I dislike Magnum by any means, in fact I went back for re-rides. What I am saying is that even with all these re-rides, I just didn't "get" Magnum. For me, there was no airtime to speak on the first curving airtime hill, and the long hill before the turnaround was slightly better, but just light and floaty, not extreme by any stretch of the imagination. The return bunny hops just didn't deliver to me. I much prefer the bunny hops on B&M hypers.

 

Maybe I caught in on a bad day- the day I got re-rides was rainy, overcast and about 70 degrees. There was only one train running, but I ride on what I was told is the "magic seat," 1-3. Nothing about the ride felt "extreme" to me (Maverick's two airtime hills are what I would call more extreme), and none of the hills were any more than floater airtime.

Not saying Magnum's a bad ride at all, and if it's your favorite ride at the park (or even your favorite coaster), that's great, I'm glad you really enjoy it. That means is shorter lines for you while I'm riding Millennium Force and Maverick.

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If Magnum doesn't have enough airtime for you, you are the problem. Magnum has insain airtime. Infact, many people think the airtime on the return run is TOO intense (But then say GK is forceless ).

 

Magnum is arguably one of the best coasters in the park. In my opinion, its likely one of the best coasters in the world. But then again, I'm a big fan of Arrows.

Well, maybe I am the problem. I'm not saying I dislike Magnum by any means, in fact I went back for re-rides. What I am saying is that even with all these re-rides, I just didn't "get" Magnum. For me, there was no airtime to speak on the first curving airtime hill, and the long hill before the turnaround was slightly better, but just light and floaty, not extreme by any stretch of the imagination. The return bunny hops just didn't deliver to me. I much prefer the bunny hops on B&M hypers.

 

Maybe I caught in on a bad day- the day I got re-rides was rainy, overcast and about 70 degrees. There was only one train running, but I ride on what I was told is the "magic seat," 1-3. Nothing about the ride felt "extreme" to me (Maverick's two airtime hills are what I would call more extreme), and none of the hills were any more than floater airtime.

Not saying Magnum's a bad ride at all, and if it's your favorite ride at the park (or even your favorite coaster), that's great, I'm glad you really enjoy it. That means is shorter lines for you while I'm riding Millennium Force and Maverick.

 

I will agree on the first few hills being a bit light on the airtime. However, I think they were designed to feel huge rather than deliver air. The return run is where they give you the airtime. The 1-3 magnum seat is a myth. Try riding in the middle row of the last car (6-2). Smooths out the ride and changes some of the sharp ejector that some people complain about into more suitable ejector. I think you'll enjoy it more of you give it a ride there.

 

Magnum is not a fan of the rain. The first rain drop closes it because of the nature of its safety brakes unless they go down to one train. I would avoid maggie on a rainy day because even if it does open, she doesn't ride well.

 

I hope next time you have a better experience.

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If Magnum doesn't have enough airtime for you, you are the problem. Magnum has insain airtime. Infact, many people think the airtime on the return run is TOO intense (But then say GK is forceless ).

 

Magnum is arguably one of the best coasters in the park. In my opinion, its likely one of the best coasters in the world. But then again, I'm a big fan of Arrows.

 

I am wondering of the people that love this coaster; how tall are you? I am 6' tall and found the lap bars way too tight. Kind of made any airtime less enjoyable.

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Well thank you so much about all of the information! I just get more and more excited for it! Magnum in the back sounds awesome. I will probably aim for the Front or back of Raptor. I am definitely wanting to do a front and back of Millennium Force and I want a front row of Top Thrill Dragster. I'll probably do front and back of Wicked Twister. Front of Maverick. Front and back of Gatekeeper (one on one side and one on the other). Front of Blue Streak. Front of Mean Streak (if I even want to ride it).

 

If there is one thing I'm worried about it is the weather. Hopefully the rain and wind won't be a factor on my trip!

 

Again thank you all for all of this advice! Very excited for June!

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