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P. 1989: Wicked Twister's permanent closure announced!

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I was planning a CP trip in early August. I'm glad there were no serious injuries in the accident. I have not yet ridden STR and I guess I won't get to this year. I found it to be a strange inclusion as I feel it isn't all that different from Snake River Falls, correct? I'm in the camp where a park shouldn't add a ride just to add a ride. I know CP wanted to replace the old flume, but it seems like they could have installed something much more interesting for their money.

 

I also hope Skyhawk is fixed but that, too, seems unlikely given all the issues it has had this year. It is only 7 years old so I can't imagine them ditching the investment quite yet.

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I know STR and Giraffica are different with their lifts but that the boats are the same so I'm sure its just coincidental but Holiday World is saying now that Giraffica is going to be closed down indefinitely while the company that designed it comes in to work on the track some. Like I said probably not related but the timing makes you wonder?

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I think it's pretty early to start saying anyone is to blame. If it's iintamin's fault then sure, they should be embarrassed, but until they officially release any information there no point to say any party is embarrassed

 

It doesn't matter the reason, it is really embarrassing for them.

 

I'm a die hard Intamin fanboy, and I always think that the accident that happens on their rides are okay, because they could not be predicted or are due to human errors, but this I thing here with a failed anti-rollback is just not okay.

 

Feel free to flame me for this.

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^No one is going to flame you, but you have to wait for the full story. Remember how everyone jumped on Intamin for the California Screamin accident which turned out to be all Disney because they changed something that Intamin did!?!? Or how about the SFKK accident where maintenance admitted they didn't follow Intamin's instructions for oiling the cable?

 

It's a hard position to sell a giant machine to a park and trust them to do everything right with it because or else the blame comes right back to you.

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I love the Intamin rides at Cedar Point but I'm just so heavily disappointed in Shoot The Rapids. While I understand it fills as a replacement for White Water Landing back when it closed for Maverick but the ride has been a technical nightmare. It has gone so far incredibly over budget, and it's not even popular in the park at this point and most days I have been there as a regular goer it has shorter lines than Snake River Falls and Thunder Canyon. Not to mention that it takes up a huge amount of real estate in the park. I know it's not going anywhere, but after this accident I'm even more disappointed with the ride.

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^ I think you're making some rather large assumptions. There's no way we know what exactly the budget was for the ride in the first place, let alone if its over or under. The two days I spent at the park this year the lines were full for all three rides. In addition, when I worked Thunder Canyon it was rare to have a line on any of the water rides unless it was sweltering hot. People prefer to queue up for coasters and thrill rides over water rides during a normal day at the park.

 

Not dismissing your disappointment, I personally am not a fan of the ride either, but you should probably not make assumptions like that.

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I think coasterdude has made a valid "assumption" about the budget for this ride. The price tag to begin with seemed high, and then they have had to make several modifications. Yes, maybe Intamin did them for free but with Cedar Fairs' soured relationship with the company at the time being I'm not so sure. Anyways, I like when people trash this ride...it sucks! My local park's ancient log flume is more entertaining than this overly long snooze-fest.

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I'm sure its just coincidental but Holiday World is saying now that Giraffica is going to be closed down indefinitely while the company that designed it comes in to work on the track some. Like I said probably not related but the timing makes you wonder?

 

HW closed Giraffica before Thursday, which is when they said something about it to one of their fans on their Facebook page. They said they closed it until Intamin could determine ways to improve the rides reliability. This makes sense, because the ride seems to be broken down more than it's running.

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Yes, maybe Intamin did them for free but with Cedar Fairs' soured relationship with the company at the time being I'm not so sure.

 

And of course, you work for Intamin or Cedar Fair Corporate so you know first hand that their relationship with Intamin "soured."

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Yes, maybe Intamin did them for free but with Cedar Fairs' soured relationship with the company at the time being I'm not so sure.

 

And of course, you work for Intamin or Cedar Fair Corporate so you know first hand that their relationship with Intamin "soured."

 

People on this site have seriously got their panties in a bunch lately. It's an opinion and this is a forum for discussion. Do you take everything people say on this site as "gospel"? I am no employee of Intamin or Cedar Fair, but it sure seems like there are some hard feelings going around. I also said "at the time being". No where did I say that they will never do business again with each other because: 1. you are right none of us know, and 2. Intamin makes some of the best coasters around. They are probably my favorite manufacturer.

 

Edit: For future reference I'll begin my statements with "In my opinion" in such scenarios.

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^^My apologies. Didn't mean to be a jerk but it irks me when people think that a park operator will stop buying from a manufacturer because they have a few issues. Park operators will buy from whatever vendor that has the product they are looking and at the right price.

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Is it just me or is millennium force running really fast in that video? Those hills look like they definitely have more than floater, the train even clears the largest hill faster than any b&m.. And I don't remember it whipping around that final overbank like that.

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^ It isn't just you, it does really seem pretty fast compared to other videos, specially in the overbanked turns. Can't wait to make my first trip to Cedar Point in August!

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Yes, maybe Intamin did them for free but with Cedar Fairs' soured relationship with the company at the time being I'm not so sure.

 

And of course, you work for Intamin or Cedar Fair Corporate so you know first hand that their relationship with Intamin "soured."

 

People on this site have seriously got their panties in a bunch lately. It's an opinion and this is a forum for discussion. Do you take everything people say on this site as "gospel"? I am no employee of Intamin or Cedar Fair, but it sure seems like there are some hard feelings going around. I also said "at the time being". No where did I say that they will never do business again with each other because: 1. you are right none of us know, and 2. Intamin makes some of the best coasters around. They are probably my favorite manufacturer.

 

Edit: For future reference I'll begin my statements with "In my opinion" in such scenarios.

 

There was nothing wrong with what DJeXeL said to you. You claimed your statement was your opinion, but you posted it like it was a fact. You got a reaction from someone because of it. DJeXeL didn't flame you or insult you in his response. The only person on this site that appears to have "their panties in a bunch" right now is you. Please do not continue to make posts like this. This is a forum for discussion, but we will not tolerate people talking down to other members or being obnoxious.

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I wonder after such a large investment for the park this year what CP could be planning for next year? I'm sure nothing really big......

 

I think in the best scenario (but unlikely until 2015 imo) we'll see a fun for everyone dark ride. Matt Ouimet hinted at wanting something along those lines to be put in at a few Cedar Fair parks (in an interview with the Season Pass Podcast folks). I don't expect CP to have something big for next year at all which is fine with me, but I imagine the front entrance will look spectacular once all the foliage has a chance to really grow in. I love to be surprised though!

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^I agree that Cedar Point could use a dark ride. Sally Corp has been buiding some cool stuff lately, and I'd love to the park get something along the lines of the Justice League ride in Australia.

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A little bit off topic, I was watching a few gatekeeper videos and I noticed (because there was a woman with long hair sitting in front of the person who filmed one of them) that the camelback hill was clearly providing some airtime and so was the entry to the MCBR as well as that last little hill before the brakes. I remember a lot of people saying that when they rode it close to the opening date none of these places provided airtime. Now I'm just not sure whether it was running particularly fast the day when some recent videos were taken or if is really has been getting slightly faster as the time passes. One thing's fore sure, overall it does look faster now than it did when it opened. Just hope it stays this way!

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