Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

[bluestreak]

This turn is going to be forceful!!

 

Just because it's highly banked doesn't automatically mean higher positive g forces. If anything, I would almost bet in some type of crazy feeling lateral force (which is not a bad thing) on the right side of the train at the peak of the turn. B&M has been doing this a lot lately where they design a turn that almost or does bank at 90 degrees + at the peak. They did this on Fury (Treble Clef), Thunderbird (the turn into the inline twist) and Baron 1898 (the helix after the Zero-G roll).

 

To me it looks pretty sharp as well and I have to imagine there will be some decent speed going into that curve. Idk I like the way you're thinking as well though!

[DorneyKid14]

Hey now, hey now, lets not get into another stupid argument. Lets think happy thought, like riding Top Thrill, or maybe Millennium Force, or maybe even hanging by the fire at Hotel Breakers.

 

OR JUST BOATS

[coasterbill]

I'm interested to see how fast it takes that turn. I'm glad it's so abrupt and not facing the bay for a prolonged period of time and I think it's going to take it at a decent clip. The reason I bring that up is the fact that 9 times out of 10 the wind comes from the bay, causing Gatekeeper's first half to all be against a strong headwind, Raptor's slowest point into the mid course to be against a strong headwind and Dragster to be trying to crest the hill against a strong headwind. The more a coaster faces the bay at low speeds, the more of an issue the wind is so if it takes that turn with any speed at all I'm optimistic that this ride can run when many other coasters (mainly the 3 I just mentioned) can't.

Edited February 2, 2016 by coasterbill

[FaithPlus1]

^^How come you left out a happy thought like taking a nice smooth spin on Mean Streak?

[DorneyKid14]

^^How come you left out a happy thought like taking a nice smooth spin on Mean Streak?

 

We are using the wood from Mean Streak for the fire at Hotel Breakers

[coasterbill]

I still say Mean Streak is a good coaster. If you ride in the front and lean forward it's much smoother than Blue Streak could ever be and even though the ride does a whole bunch of nothing I love taking a ride through that amazing structure. Hearing all the enthusiasts bitch and moan behind us just makes the ride 10 times better.

 

And yeah I know I shouldn't have to know a certain way for ride a coaster but whatever, that's what we do and we have tons of fun riding Mean Streak.

[DorneyKid14]

I still say Mean Streak is a good coaster. If you ride in the front and lean forward it's much smoother than Blue Streak could ever be and even though the ride does a whole bunch of nothing I love taking a ride through that amazing structure. Hearing all the enthusiasts bitch and moan behind us just makes the ride 10 times better.

 

And yeah I know I shouldn't have to know a certain way for ride a coaster but whatever, that's what we do and we have tons of fun riding Mean Streak.

 

 

I dont know a problem with Mean Streak. Yes it was really rough, but it has a cool layout.

[coasterbill]

I feel like one time I should ride Mean Streak in a different row just to see this roughness everyone talks about. We've always heard it was rough so we always ride it defensively and because of that we've always known it to be one of the smoothest coasters in the park.

 

It's really an amazing trick, we did the same thing with Wild Beast at Canda's Wonderland which apparently has a reputation for being a back breaker and had a perfectly smooth ride experience. Same for both Hurler's and the KD Grizzly.

Edited February 2, 2016 by coasterbill

[FaithPlus1]

I still say Mean Streak is a good coaster. If you ride in the front and lean forward it's much smoother than Blue Streak could ever be and even though the ride does a whole bunch of nothing I love taking a ride through that amazing structure. Hearing all the enthusiasts bitch and moan behind us just makes the ride 10 times better.

 

And yeah I know I shouldn't have to know a certain way for ride a coaster but whatever, that's what we do and we have tons of fun riding Mean Streak.

 

I was just joking! I actually rode Mean Streak the year it opened and loved it!! It just doesn't do much now with the modifications and trims, however, I still ride it every time I go to CP. It's such a beautiful structure! I want a RMC treatment more than I want any other type of coaster.

[SFOGdude25]

I feel like one time I should ride Mean Streak in a different row just to see this roughness everyone talks about. We've always heard it was rough so we always ride it defensively and because of that we've always known it to be one of the smoothest coasters in the park.

 

It's really an amazing trick, we did the same thing with Wild Beast at Canda's Wonderland which apparently has a reputation for being a back breaker and had a perfectly smooth ride experience. Same for both Hurler's and the KD Grizzly.

 

Same technique I've perfected growing up with Georgia Cyclone.

The "non-axle seat rule" applies to Mean Streak too. I've done the first row of the last car a few times, and it's about the same as the front seat albeit a tiny bit rougher.

 

So yeah, count me in the "Mean Streak's not that bad" group. Best time to ride it is at night when flood lights light the whole structure from underneath. Visually one of the coolest experiences in the park believe it or not.

[Invertalon]

I don't have any real issue with Mean Streak... I love taking late evening and night rides on it... No, it's not the most thrilling ride in the park, but I still think it delivers a decent ride. The past few years the park has really taken good care of it and it has been worth riding. Roughness wise, I don't find it much worse than Blue Streak all things considered. I have had worse rides on the Blue one in that regard.

 

I still wouldn't be against a RMC conversion or a brand new GCI in it's place, though...

[Ape]

Even if I got a smooth ride on Mean Streak the ride around that course is just so boring I can't stand it. We usually give it a ride on each visit but it does nothing for me.

[TyRush]

Never had a smooth ride on Mean Streak. Always wanted to call my chiropractor afterwards, but it also never stopped me from riding it once on a visit!

[coasterbill]

Try that trick, I promise I works. The ride itself still meanders around and doesn't do much... if they RMC it I won't miss it but in the meantime I'll enjoy it for what it is... a cool ride through an amazing structure in a great setting. It's not that bad, and if it weren't at Cedar Point sitting on prime real estate for expansion it would never generate the level of hatred that it does.

[WOFanatic]

The problem with RMC working on the ride is that Cedar Point does not need another huge, near-vertical, inverting steel coaster. At least not right now. A GCI should take Mean Streak´s place if it indeed goes to the amusement park in the sky. That or a new launched family mine train like Firechaser Express. Let us remember that a good amusement park can´t be JUST thrill rides. The lowest height restriction for a roller coaster (besides the boring kiddie coasters) is 48¨. If I was a kid at Cedar Point around 42¨, I´d be pretty bored most of the day.

[Mossed]

It doesn't need to invert, it just needs that RMC airtime goodness.

[coasternut]

I still say Mean Streak is a good coaster. If you ride in the front and lean forward it's much smoother than Blue Streak could ever be and even though the ride does a whole bunch of nothing I love taking a ride through that amazing structure. Hearing all the enthusiasts bitch and moan behind us just makes the ride 10 times better.

 

And yeah I know I shouldn't have to know a certain way for ride a coaster but whatever, that's what we do and we have tons of fun riding Mean Streak.

 

I totally disagree on MS. A few years ago during Coastermania, they begged us to ride MS for ERT at night. That was a Friday night, and for the first time I enjoyed it. I think they turned off the trims, although I'm not that familiar with the ride since I don't like it. I rode it twice and enjoyed. It was closed the next day so, I came back Sunday and rode it in the front and it was $hit!

 

Blue Streak is my favorite ride in the park. I ride row 1 or 2 only and throw my hands up and enjoy!! No thinking about how to ride. Normally the line is short and I can ride over and over.

[coasterbill]

Just riding in the front isn't good enough. You have to learn forward (easy since there's a grab bar) and not let your back touch the seat back. It's a really, really stupid way to ride a coaster and if someone says that they shouldn't have to do something that stupid to enjoy a coaster I can't disagree at all, that's a very fair point. I'm just saying that if you do it it works like a dream and I don't really mind that much.

 

Also, if you do that, it's a smoother ride than Blue Streak, though Blue Streak still isn't rough by any means and it's a much better ride than Mean Streak since it's a better layout with nice pops of air.

[boldikus]

My problem with Mean Streak is that Maverick is right next to it. Why would I want to spend my time riding a boring rough piece of crap when I could spend that time waiting for the best coaster ever built.

[bluestreak]

Try that trick, I promise I works. The ride itself still meanders around and doesn't do much... if they RMC it I won't miss it but in the meantime I'll enjoy it for what it is... a cool ride through an amazing structure in a great setting. It's not that bad, and if it weren't at Cedar Point sitting on prime real estate for expansion it would never generate the level of hatred that it does.

 

I 100% agree with this statement. It really isn't that bad if you know how to ride it

[neil009]

The problem with RMC working on the ride is that Cedar Point does not need another huge, near-vertical, inverting steel coaster. At least not right now. A GCI should take Mean Streak´s place if it indeed goes to the amusement park in the sky. That or a new launched family mine train like Firechaser Express. Let us remember that a good amusement park can´t be JUST thrill rides. The lowest height restriction for a roller coaster (besides the boring kiddie coasters) is 48¨. If I was a kid at Cedar Point around 42¨, I´d be pretty bored most of the day.

 

I can tell you for nearly certain the GCI thing won't happen. "We know you didn't like that old wooden coaster, so we replaced it with a new wooden coaster that's shorter and slower." Doesn't exactly fit with Cedar Point's image or modus operandi.

[Coaster Curt]

We drive from Minnesota once a season to hit the coasters at CP. We however do not waste a second getting in line and riding Mean Streak. It is such a craptastic coaster that breaks your back. I do not want to have to ride it defensively just to ride the thing. It is a slow and boring layout that needs to change or get knocked down for something good.

 

Plus Maverick sits right there, why not get in line there and get a couple awesome rides in on that?

[neil009]

I didn't dislike Mean Streak to the extent that I wouldn't go on it again. I went on one of the busiest operating days of the year and I'm pretty sure I got in line, rode it, and was out the exit in under 30 minutes. I wouldn't blame anyone else for skipping it but in terms of ride quality to wait time ratio, it's not too bad if you're a wooden coaster fan.

[DoinItForTheFame]

Personally I am not a huge fan of Mean Streak, meaning I don't love it, nor do I hate it. On the other hand my partner really enjoys Mean Streak so we ride it at least 4-5 times every visit. Thankfully we book a VIP Tour so we avoid the lines, so it doesn't cut into our time on other attractions.

[Coaster Curt]

^ Much cheaper to just get the FL plus and not worry about it. MS almost never has a line when we go.