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P. 1989: Wicked Twister's permanent closure announced!

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B&M coasters are like Apple products. Everyone is super excited for the announcement, but then people complain about every little thing when it is announced. Once it is released, everyone will then love the product again. B&Ms and Apple products are safe, but that definitely does not mean that they are bad.

 

I've only been on Griffon, but both vertical drops were outstanding and I was floating the whole way down. The inversions were also pretty forceful. Not early 1990 B&M invert forceful, but forceful. This ride is going to be immensely popular and a people eater. People love SheiKra and Griffon, so I don't see how a larger version of two highly popular coasters is bad. And then having the new vest restraints is just gravy.

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B&M coasters are like Apple products. Everyone is super excited for the announcement, but then people complain about every little thing when it is announced. Once it is released, everyone will then love the product again. B&Ms and Apple products are safe, but that definitely does not mean that they are bad.

 

 

So true.

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To be fair there are only nine other Dive Machines in the world, and only two others in America. So for the majority of people that will ride this, it will be a new coaster experience.

 

So true. I sent the You Tube link to a friend and my brother in law and they thought it looked like a ton of fun and couldn't wait to go ride it next year.

 

My brother in law didn't even know such a coaster existed so yeah...the GP will definitely eat this up.

 

Especially with a nice viewing area of the drop. People that have never been to BG are going to shit when they see the stall on the first drop!

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What a stupid announcement the ride doesn't even dive into Lake Erie

 

Sorry Hershey but unlike Storm Runner's barrel roll that element would ACTUALLY be a "Flying Snake Dive". Those Lake Erie watersnakes would go flying onto the midway and that's too bad because those little things are vicious. I see a ton of them at Cedar Point and a youtube search shows you nothing but videos of people holding them, talking about the need to preserve them all while they look like they're about to pass out from severe blood loss.

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Looks like it will be a solid, reliable, high capacity performer for the park. I am sure the GP will like it. A hyper coaster with inversions is never a bad thing. I question though the bit of the redundancy factor of this decision. The seating configuration and the ride experience itself may be a tad too similar to what else is currently in the park.

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well, they have almost every type of coaster. Do you guys think they'll add a flyer in the future?

 

I would rather see a high quality 4D. Not rushed, but perfected. Like an intamin version of X2. Just better. Long duration, controlled flips, high capacity, actual track and not this stacked rails like the free spins and zac spins.

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The only flyer's CF has in their possession they inherited so I'm going to go with NO. CF doesn't seem to be a fan of the B&M flyers. Not sure why. It has been 6 years since the last 1 was installed in the US.

Not a single park in the chain had a wing rider, they added one. Not a single park in the chain had a dive machine, they're adding one. I could go on and on. While I see your point, its not completely out of the realm of possibility.

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They've seemed pretty clear in their intentions to be looking at a Mean Streak revision and an interactive dark ride attraction. That would leave the park with, what, the worst "adult" coaster being Mine Train or Draggin' Iron? That's pretty ridiculous.

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Well it's a official now. This is the third straight time I've gone to CP the year before a new coaster. Went in 2006 and 2012. I I am planning on going back next summer though so the steak is likely going to end. But still what are the odds of going the same amusement park the year before a new coaster was built 3 times in a row?

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They've seemed pretty clear in their intentions to be looking at a Mean Streak revision and an interactive dark ride attraction. That would leave the park with, what, the worst "adult" coaster being Mine Train or Draggin' Iron? That's pretty ridiculous.

 

Or Corkscrew, but even that ride isn't all that bad. I do consider it to be the worst coaster in the park though... putting an airtime hill on an arrow looper is just bullsh*t. What sick human being thought that would be a good idea? lol

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Are Griffon and Sheikra the only other two dive coasters in the US then? Is there another I am missing.

 

There is simply nothing new or exciting about a dive machine

 

Fact or opinion?? Can never tell sometimes on these forums!

 

100% opinion, and that's why it's funny to me that some people are so vehemently defending the ride and calling me "ignorant" when everything I said is completely rooted in fact. It's still an opinion, but it's got facts behind it. Nothing I said is "wrong". And nothing anybody else is saying in favor of the ride is "wrong".

 

The name is still STUPID.

 

Here's what doesn't make sense about Valravn, besides the bafflingly awful name...

 

Are people seriously still complaining about the name?? Oh. My. God. The name is no worse than Rougarou, and there was not nearly this much bitching when they announced Rougarou. I'm starting to think you all would have been happier if they would have just named the coaster "Diving Coaster" and moved on.

 

If I had to guess half the people complaining about the name are complaining because they are not smart enough to be able to pronounce it.

 

Ohhh, I will continue complaining about the name until I'm dead. It is the single worst decision Cedar Point has ever made. You want to call me stupid for not knowing how to pronounce it? Guess what buddy, IT ISN'T ENGLISH. Why would I know how to pronounce it when I don't even know what language it is? And no, I'm not going to look it up, because it's a f*cking roller coaster name and that's absurd. This isn't Busch Gardens or Epcot, Cedar Point has no strong overseas cultural theme, or any theme at all for that matter, it's an American park filled with coasters with regular, American names. Maverick, Magnum, Mean Streak, these are coaster names. Valravn isn't a coaster name, it's a f*cking anagram puzzle. IT'S MISSING A VOWEL.

 

This name deserves to be complained about for decades. It deserves to have our children's children complaining about it. Someday when Cedar Point has rusted to the ground and been covered by an eon's worth of dust, some future archaeological explorer will dig up a sign with this ride's name on it and go, "Geeze, that's a f*cking stupid name."

 

Let me repeat this for all of you who seem to have forgotten it...

 

People are allowed to have opinions different from yours.

 

- The layout it not "boring" or "lame." It's not un-inspiring. It's not going to be forceless. Those are seriously ignorant. Simply ignorant things to say about this coaster. It is a solid addition to the park.

 

I would say the layout certainly has potential, but nobody knows how it's going to ride including you. Quit throwing around the word "ignorant" when it doesn't apply. We've seen B&M build corkscrews and airtime hills that simply don't deliver on their premise. If those two elements on this ride fall into that category then it'll literally be nothing but two cool drops with some track in between. Kind of like the dive machines that already exist. I'm optimistic though, don't get me wrong.

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Ready for my five year plan that most of you are going to ridicule me for?

 

2017: Aesthetic/Food Upgrades

2018: TrioTech

2019: Sky Roller/Waterpark Impovements

2020: Planet Snoopy expansion

2021: RMC Mean Streak

 

 

Im pretty sure 2020 is going to be a big year for CP

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The only flyer's CF has in their possession they inherited so I'm going to go with NO. CF doesn't seem to be a fan of the B&M flyers. Not sure why. It has been 6 years since the last 1 was installed in the US.

CF doesn't have any dive coasters in their possession either and it'll be nine years since the last one was installed in the US once Valravn is complete. So, that's not really a good argument.

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Ready for my five year plan that most of you are going to ridicule me for?

 

2017: Aesthetic/Food Upgrades

2018: TrioTech

2019: Sky Roller/Waterpark Impovements

2020: Planet Snoopy expansion

2021: RMC Mean Streak

 

 

Im pretty sure 2020 is going to be a big year for CP

 

If they ever intend to get a B&M Flyer, 2020 would be the year to do it.

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CF doesn't have any dive coasters in their possession either and it'll be nine years since the last one was installed in the US once Valravn is complete. So, that's not really a good argument.

 

I agree, it's not entirely impossible but I just don't see 1 in the next 4 or 5 years.
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