christianscoasters Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) ^In 2012, they did that once with Mantis on a Friday night. Dragster had zero chance of opening so they all went to mantis. However, back then, a lot of the Friday night employees were experienced leads, and therefore, could be easily and quickly trained, even if it's just in a simple entrance or fast lane host position. Plus, a lot of them had actually been at mantis before so it was pretty easy. However, times have changed. New policies and procedures have added up over the years and it's probably just not possible to send a crew to a different location and rearrange the staffing of the entire park because of it. I absolutely agree with you that they should rearrange as such and open a ride capable of running. I wish it was possible to do so. I'm especially biased towards Rougarou too. Haha. EDIT: it's also entirely possible that they expect the winds to die down. CP would open a ride if they could, even if it's only an hour before park close. Edited October 22, 2016 by smartestcoasterkidever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Thanks for the info, I'm glad that idea wasn't too stupid . For the record I still think those rides may open tonight (Gatekeeper is actually testing) but I know quite often there are nights when it's clearly not possible, and in the case of a ride like Magnum it seems like it would be a much better use of time to have them run Rougarou all night instead of waiting to operate a ride that probably won't even fill trains if it does open and might be able to run for like 1-2 hours tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestThemeParks Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I wouldn't think that Rougarou and Raptor/Gatekeeper would be that different to operate, all being B&M coasters. I'm probably wrong, but it seems like it would be easy to train people to be able to run all the B&Ms (same with all the Arrows or all the Intamins). Or do these rides have major differences that one wouldn't expect? I guess I would expect major differences in the four Intamin coasters since they are such different ride experiences, but the B&Ms and Arrows are all pretty similar to the others except for how the seats are arranged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christianscoasters Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 They are very similar indeed. But as I said, policy and procedures have changed. I suppose it's still possible, but not exactly easy to rearrange like that. The winds have also died down recently (as they were expected to) which is why no one would have got sent to operate other rides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Jizzman Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Love the new track on site! Can't wait for more details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravity55 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 If you look at the track closely, it appears the paint isn't stripped off where the wheels will be running like all the other I-Box conversions for this year were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grsupercity Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Another brown coaster. I have only ridden 2 RMC's. Storm Chaser and Goliath. Hopefully better then them 2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfBobs Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 If you look at the track closely, it appears the paint isn't stripped off where the wheels will be running like all the other I-Box conversions for this year were. Noticed that too. However, I'm pretty sure those are just leaves that have fallen onto the track and have gotten stuck to it due to all the rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphantom91 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 If you look at the track closely, it appears the paint isn't stripped off where the wheels will be running like all the other I-Box conversions for this year were. If that track is just for the pre lift, the coefficient of friction doesn't really matter for such a short amount of track to the lift. I'm sure once we see track post lift hill, the removed strip will be present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbatboy Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 If you look at the track closely, it appears the paint isn't stripped off where the wheels will be running like all the other I-Box conversions for this year were. If that track is just for the pre lift, the coefficient of friction doesn't really matter for such a short amount of track to the lift. I'm sure once we see track post lift hill, the removed strip will be present. But Joker though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFMMGeek27 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 TC didn't have those either on any of its track when it was being assembled. It did about a week into operation though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravity55 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 ^^ He does have a point. Storm Chaser's track didn't have its paint stripped until after the lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejot Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 The twisty track at CP has a mildly patchy look to the finish. I wonder if they didn't apply rust inhibitor to the connection points and just let the rest of it develop a surface rust patina. Which would actually be really, really awesome and eliminate the need to strip paint off the tracking surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphantom91 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 If you look at the track closely, it appears the paint isn't stripped off where the wheels will be running like all the other I-Box conversions for this year were. If that track is just for the pre lift, the coefficient of friction doesn't really matter for such a short amount of track to the lift. I'm sure once we see track post lift hill, the removed strip will be present. But Joker though I said such a short pre lift. Compare Joker's pre lift length to MS's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 OMG these wait times are unreal. Some of the highlights: Skyhawk: 1 hour Gemini: 85 Minutes Power Tower: 1 Hour Blue Streak: 80 Minutes Mine Ride: 50 Minutes Iron Dragon: 50 Minutes Holy crap. When Gemini has a wait it's time to pack it up and go home. When Gemini has an 85 minute wait you've reached the 7th layer of hell.I know huge lines during Halloweekends aren't news but an 85 minute wait for Gemeni has to be the longest line that ride has had in years. PS: Valravn, Raptor, Maverick and Gatekeeper are all 2 hours plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armyboy608 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Love the new track on site! Can't wait for more details It's so exciting!!! I love cedar point and I've never been!!! Here in the UK we have a similar theme park called Alton Towers! It ok but it always dose it on a small scale! Cedar point pushes the limits of what these machines can deliver! Although they could do with a multilaunch coaster but I'm being fussy if I really mean that [emoji23] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cj1990 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 No way in Hell would I be seen at the park in crowds like that. Even with a FL+ just walking around would be hell on earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonni Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 It sucks being a roller coaster enthusiast that hates large crowds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I don't mind large crowds but 85 minutes and 60 minutes for Skyhawk is unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cj1990 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 It does. I had a full blown anxiety attack leaving Disney world once. I left early cause of criwds and literally starting having the attack just getting out the entrance. Not fun to go through and embarrassing lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boldikus Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 It sucks being a roller coaster enthusiast that hates large crowds. It's awesome being a coaster enthusiast that hates large crowds but avoids them by not going on Saturday's in October without budgeting for fast pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytterbiumanalyst Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 It sucks being a roller coaster enthusiast that hates large crowds. It's awesome being a coaster enthusiast that hates large crowds but avoids them by not going on Saturday's in October without budgeting for fast pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestThemeParks Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Where would the line go for an 85 minute wait on Gemini? I don't remember exactly, but that ride doesn't have much queue, correct? Same for Iron Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SbSteveZ Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) Where would the line go for an 85 minute wait on Gemini? I don't remember exactly, but that ride doesn't have much queue, correct? Same for Iron Dragon. I do believe there is some decent queue space within Gemini's prelift area. It typically seems excessive but during busy saturdays in October it's probably perfect! Edited October 23, 2016 by SbSteveZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christianscoasters Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Are they only running one side? Then I could understand if the wait was that long. Full queues with both sides operating and a good crew is only about 20-30 minutes. In 2012, we had full queues and a line stretching on the midway to the snoopy bounce and it was about a 45 minute wait. I've also noticed severe over-estimates on queue length this year, at least according to the apps. Unless only the red side is operating, I doubt Gemini had an hour and a half line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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