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Wind isn't the reason for Smiler. Stupidity was the reason for Smiler. Cedar Point valleys coasters all the time and they've never managed to clear the blocks and crash 2 ride vehicles into eachother (well... Magnum crashed 2 ride vehicles once but nobody was injured to my knowledge). This year they valleyed Maverick and I want to say Gemeni. Last year they valleyed

and Rougarou (though the Rougarou one was a strange one). They've valleyed
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and Mantis (this is a cool video too, watch them load it and push it at 1:37 and then crawl at a snails pace back to the station).

 

Wind is an a**hole at Cedar Point.

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Wind isn't the reason for Smiler. Stupidity was the reason for Smiler. Cedar Point valleys coasters all the time and they've never managed to clear the blocks and crash 2 ride vehicles into eachother (well... Magnum crashed 2 ride vehicles once but nobody was injured to my knowledge). This year they valleyed Maverick and I want to say Gemeni. Last year they valleyed
and Rougarou (though the Rougarou one was a strange one). They've valleyed
.
,
and Mantis (this is a cool video too, watch them load it and push it at 1:37 and then crawl at a snails pace back to the station).

 

Wind is an a**hole at Cedar Point.

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#geeksquad

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Wind isn't the reason for Smiler. Stupidity was the reason for Smiler. Cedar Point valleys coasters all the time and they've never managed to clear the blocks and crash 2 ride vehicles into eachother (well... Magnum crashed 2 ride vehicles once but nobody was injured to my knowledge). This year they valleyed Maverick and I want to say Gemeni. Last year they valleyed
and Rougarou (though the Rougarou one was a strange one). They've valleyed
.
,
and Mantis (this is a cool video too, watch them load it and push it at 1:37 and then crawl at a snails pace back to the station).

 

Wind is an a**hole at Cedar Point.

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I have to admit I absolutely love this in depth valley report. I watched the Mantis video 4 times in a row and now I feel dirty.

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I'm glad I'm not the only dork who loves this kind of crap. My favorite was the Iron Dragon one though which was obviously taken by a ride crew member who sent the train knowing full well that there was a really good chance that it wouldn't go well and they'd need to winch it out from over the lagoon.

 

Oh and I apparently forgot some.

 

The little engine that couldn't.

 

Iron Dragon is still having none of your shi*t (different valley)

 

Guess which train lost the race...

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(From this year)

 

So yeah... I can't hate on them for their wind policy.

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what's their fail-safe in the event of a valley? if a coaster fully loaded with people valleyed is there a signal that's sent out automatically and it locks other trains on brakes throughout the ride?

 

A train can never enter an occupied block unless the brakes fail or you're at Alton Towers. If a ride valleys a ride op often notices and can either e-stop / lift stop or simply not dispatch a train but even if they don't notice the ride will stop the next ride unit before it enters an occupied block... either on the lift hill or in a midcourse brake run that separates them. Coasters are block checked every morning so if you go to a park and notice a coaster stopped on the top of the lift or in a brake run it's probably because they parked a train at the end of the brake run on purpose to make sure this system was working properly.

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Same. Even though I love the RMC red tracks on many of their rides, I'm glad Cedar Point is making this "look" like a wooden coaster. Also, I'm hoping for a few inversions on this thing, if only for the fact that Cedar Point doesn't have an inverting coaster without OTSRs.

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A train can never enter an occupied block unless the brakes fail or you're at Alton Towers.

 

Unless you have the proper keys......With maintenance keys anything is possible. Block says it's occupied? I have the override solution for that! Alton Towers did exactly this which proved to be disastrous.

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Well yeah but I'm assuming nobody will ever be dumb enough to do that again.

 

Anyway guys, I need to dork out a little more about Cedar Point's operations. This isn't so much a criticism, there's clearly a reason for it. But I'm wondering what it is and I'm sure somebody knows. I'm fully aware that this may be a stupid question.

 

As I predicted yesterday (and I'm assuming if I did then the people in charge of operations did too), Gatekeeper, Raptor and Dragster are down for wind tonight. So is Windseeker (which I think is scheduled to run on Friday nights) and Magnum (probably since the headwind is in the opposite direction that it normally is facing Magnum's highest, slowest point but now I'm just making sh*t up).

 

Obviously they're really short staffed on Friday nights and I'm assuming they now have the Dragster crew, Magnum crew, Raptor crew and Gatekeeper crew standing around doing nothing / cleaning the trains. I assume the Windseeker crew is doing something else since they're probably cross trained and used to this and there's no chance in hell of that ride operating tonight.

 

So the thing that seems like a shame about this is that Rougarou is literally just sitting there, perfectly capable of running in high winds. Since this happens all the time during Halloweekends, why don't they cross train some people from these crews of rides that have frequent wind closures to work something like Rougarou as a backup plan for nights like this (which aren't uncommon during Halloweekends) when it's insanely windy and not overly likely that some of these rides will operate, at least not for a few hours?

 

I'm sure this is much easier said than done but I was curious so I figured I'd ask. Right now it's entirely likely that they're going to pay these people to stand around and do nothing all night or at least for the vast majority of it.

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