Mossed Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 Wow...just went online to purchase platinum passes for my family, and it's nearly $1000 for a family of 4. Better hit up those parks repeatedly to make it worth the cost!
grsupercity Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 I know I am going to get some backlash for this, and I am totally fine with that. I think CP should get a 4th dem coaster. I think RMC/S&S could make a very sweet coaster. I saw how the magnets control the flips on BTR at SFFT and I can imagine what they could come up with on a larger full circuit coaster!
Password121 Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 I'd rather they develop the concept a little more before CP considers one. At this point they are very low capacity and may just seem like a "gimmicky" Gatekeeper to Cedar Point guests. I'd rather see an I-boxed Mean Streak before a 4D. Also, what happened to the B&M 4D wing coaster rumors? I think Gatekeeper was originally rumored to be that, but it evolved into a concept in the planning stage (in the rumor mill), but I haven't heard anything the last year or so.
coasterchitchat Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 Maybe B&M wasn't a fan of the rotating seats. I've heard that they will eventually do the 4D coaster, but they want to do the wing coaster first.
DJeXeL Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 Possibility. S&S still owns the patents (via Arrow acquisition) for the "X Rail" I believe. B&M will have to find a different means of seat rotation. I have no doubt whatever they come up with will be smoother than the S&S/Arrow 4D coasters.
coasterchitchat Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 I have no doubt whatever they come up with will be smoother than the S&S/Arrow 4D coasters. Got that right. The first one should run well.
ImNotOneOfYou Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 This is probably unlikely, but I did some measuring and a large scale ZacSpin like Insane can fit behind Millennium Force's first turn
MagnumFreak25 Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 For some reason I've always wanted to see a 4d at CP. It's seems like it would be a good addition providing a fun ride while being gimmicky enough to draw in the crowds.
Iron Wolf 90-11 Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 What is the large concrete area beneath and behind Millenniums last turn used for?
BigDipper 80 Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 ^That used to be queue space from when the ride opened. They don't use it any more, so it just sits empty.
DonGeorge Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 This is probably unlikely, but I did some measuring and a large scale ZacSpin like Insane can fit behind Millennium Force's first turn I remember watching this Cedar Point documentary on Youtube and they had a bunch of coaster concepts on the wall. One of them was a few Zacspin layouts. Here it is.
Vonni Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 I dont feel like a Zacspin or a Freespin would be right for Cedar Point. It just doesn't seem like a fit.
DarienLaker Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 I dont feel like a Zacspin or a Freespin would be right for Cedar Point. It just doesn't seem like a fit. Unless that ZacSpin of Freespin coaster was a unique custom model made just for Cedar Point that can't really be "cloned"!
FaithPlus1 Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 CP is not going to waste time with a stupid Zacspin. They're for smaller parks who don't have the funds for a monster coaster. Magic Mountain only got one as a cheap way to increase their coaster count.
grsupercity Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 I was thinking of a large custom 4d coaster, with RMC track.
scbt Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Is that a launched Zacspin If I recall correctly, the initial zacspin prototypes were launched.
ImNotOneOfYou Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 CP is not going to waste time with a stupid Zacspin.They're for smaller parks who don't have the funds for a monster coaster. Magic Mountain only got one as a cheap way to increase their coaster count. I think Grona Lund got one because ZacSpins are compact, and they are great at managing their space. If they had room for a big coaster, they probably would have went with that.
Snowyowl1028 Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Also, what happened to the B&M 4D wing coaster rumors? I think Gatekeeper was originally rumored to be that, but it evolved into a concept in the planning stage (in the rumor mill), but I haven't heard anything the last year or so. They can always replace the trains if they feel the need to, however I don't think they would consider it for a long time.
ImNotOneOfYou Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Also, what happened to the B&M 4D wing coaster rumors? I think Gatekeeper was originally rumored to be that, but it evolved into a concept in the planning stage (in the rumor mill), but I haven't heard anything the last year or so. They can always replace the trains if they feel the need to, however I don't think they would consider it for a long time. I don't think they would add rotating seats to a Wing Coaster. Wing coasters are meant to mimic flying, and adding rotating seats would probably ruin that feeling
Password121 Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Also, what happened to the B&M 4D wing coaster rumors? I think Gatekeeper was originally rumored to be that, but it evolved into a concept in the planning stage (in the rumor mill), but I haven't heard anything the last year or so. They can always replace the trains if they feel the need to, however I don't think they would consider it for a long time. So, I assume you know the engineering involved in replacing trains on a coaster already much more complex than a traditional sitting coaster, with trains requiring even more precise engineering and calculations of forces? You cannot change the style of trains that easily; the Mantis to Rougarou conversion was the first example of this on a B&M (excluding Sheikra which is different), and I presume it is because Mantis was designed for a variable heartline as a stand up model in the first place, allowing for floorless/sit down trains.
chargersmichael Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Here is a PointCast Update on Hotel Breakers from Tony Clark at Cedar Point!
Iron Wolf 90-11 Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Crazy to think that it will be open for business in around 2 months. Still a lot of work to do, but so far it's looking great.
thrillrider Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 We already made reservations for opening weekend.
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