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It’s not like this event has a high cost to produce (might have even been part of the original deal with WCC, only they obviously intended for it to be a typical car show), so more power to them if they can get some people some work and make a little profit.
 
My guess is either WCC is providing all the cars, or likely calling up their clients and saying “hey, want some free tickets to magic mountain whenever it reopens? Just gotta come up for a few hours on these weekends.”
 

Yah. I mean out here in woodland hills there used to be a super car “show” every weekend in the Westfield Promenade and it was always packed.

https://yelp.to/lMke30hN7db

http://www.supercarsunday.com/about-us/


LA is one of the few places where something like this WOULD succeed.


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I think the main selling point is still the novelty of being able to drive your car through the park.
 

The people into car culture want to be able to see the cars up close, talk to the owners about the car, and geek out with fellow car enthusiasts. Driving by them likely isn’t exciting.

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On 2/16/2021 at 11:04 PM, MagicMountainMan said:

I totally agree, but unfortunately entertainment isn't something that really makes the park any money directly (seasonal events notwithstanding). I worked various jobs for and adjacent to the Entertainment department for over 4 years and they cut the Entertainment budget every single season. It's just not something that Six Flags prioritizes at all. It requires time, effort, and money to pull off good entertainment and Six Flags has shown absolutely no willingness to support it. A lot of talented individuals from Entertainment and other departments have gotten their start at Six Flags and almost none of them stay there.

I could go on for hours complaining, but at the end of the day entertainment is just not in the Six Flags business model.

I'll admit, I was not much of an entertainment park guest until the last couple years, but I've come to believe it's important to the overall park experience.  People need something to do besides wait in line and some way to form memories with other people instead of just machines.

But you're right though.  That's just not something that current era Six Flags is interested in.  Which is such a shame, because they've got really quality IP available in both D.C. and Looney Tunes that could make for a gold mine of entertainment.  And Magic Mountain is capable of it.... the Batman shows were cheesy but exciting, and had great production value.

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I'd be fairly pissed if I paid and went before they offered this.  But glad they are offering this to Members and Pass Holders.

 

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A saw an email from a passholder who did already pay, and they were told they'll be able to redeem 2 free park passes once the park reopens.

Also, when I looked, it seems they also lowered the price.  It's now only $49 per car, as long as you have 4 people or less in the car.  If you have more than 4, then the price does go up.

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^From just two events?  And it's not like there's really all that much of an alternative.  Six Flags isn't exactly known for their food, so I don't think a food event is in their cards.

In any case, I do think one key difference is this is a daytime event.  Even though I'm not a car person, it'll just be nice to see the park in daylight.

Oh, and I did get my email for members, lol

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5 hours ago, ryder said:

A saw an email from a passholder who did already pay, and they were told they'll be able to redeem 2 free park passes once the park reopens.

Also, when I looked, it seems they also lowered the price.  It's now only $49 per car, as long as you have 4 people or less in the car.  If you have more than 4, then the price does go up.

that's pretty fair, i guess. lol

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I would really REALLY like to see a TR on this Event.

Shots of cars, standing still.

Awesome. 😋

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We've had a "Car Show" at the PNE once or twice. Had to walk by it, though.

This one was in the 2018 Fair. Opposite the Hastings Horse Race Track, which also runs during The Fair.

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It appears my first guess was correct: there isn’t much appeal for a car show where you can’t get up close to the cars.

They should just go for broke at this point and ask the Governor for an exception to open in a limited capacity since its all outdoors and he’s apparently on track to approve fans for MLB games regardless of the tier in time for opening day early April...

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17 minutes ago, Jew said:

It appears my first guess was correct: there isn’t much appeal for a car show where you can’t get up close to the cars.

They should just go for broke at this point and ask the Governor for an exception to open in a limited capacity since its all outdoors and he’s apparently on track to approve fans for MLB games regardless of the tier in time for opening day early April...

I really hope he allows the park to open before summer, that would be the most ideal but it's far fetched. Anytime before June is going to be a huge victory

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I actually predict the park will indeed open in June/July.  So they are looking for any kind of revenue between now and then.

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California made an announcement that they are going to change the daily new cases per 100,000 threshold once enough poor people get vaccinated.  This should happen in a couple weeks and again in a couple of months.  The increase will be "slight" with no actual new tier ranges mentioned but it should get counties opened quicker.  

Section from March 4th press release relating to re-opening:  https://www.gov.ca.gov/2021/03/04/california-leads-with-public-health-and-vaccine-equity-to-safely-and-sustainably-reopen/

"Consistent with the disproportionate impact of the virus, the state is modifying the Blueprint for a Safer Economy to lead with opening activities when vaccines have been deployed to the hardest-hit communities. This modification will shift Blueprint tier thresholds to allow slightly higher case rates per 100,000 population once more inoculations have occurred in the communities suffering the most, allowing counties to move to less restrictive tiers. 

The initial goal of the vaccine equity metric is to deliver a minimum of 2 million doses to the hardest-hit quarter of the state as measured by the Healthy Places Index. The state has currently delivered 1.6 million doses to this quarter of the state. It is estimated that 2 million doses will be delivered in the vaccine equity quartile sometime in the next two weeks.

Once that threshold is reached, the Blueprint for a Safer Economy will be updated to allow for somewhat higher case rates in each tier, with an overall effect of allowing counties to loosen health restrictions at a somewhat accelerated, but still responsible, pace. The Blueprint will be updated again when 4 million doses have been administered in the vaccine equity quartile."

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I was wrong too.  Rides are coming!  Did anyone else notice the date is April 1st?  Don't make an April fool of me California :-(  You better re-open.

https://ktla.com/news/california/some-outdoor-ballparks-stadiums-and-theme-parks-eligible-to-reopen-april-1-in-california-state-officials-announce/

"Amusement and theme parks:

counties in the red tier: limited to 15% capacity

counties in the orange tier: limited to 25% capacity

counties in the yellow tier: limited to 35% capacity

no indoor dining

limits on indoor rides

In addition, theme parks should only be accepting visitors from inside the state of California, Ghaly said during a news briefing Friday, adding that a statewide travel advisory remains in place."

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I think it's important to note a few things in the 'reopening' news...

- Parks CAN reopen April 1st if they're in the correct tier. This could change. And Orange County and LA county are sometimes not the same tier.

- California residents only.

- Just because they CAN open doesn't mean they will, I could see them waiting a few weeks to make sure they are ready and numbers are still trending in the right direction. 

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From what I have read a county has to meet the requirements for a tier for 3 weeks before it qualifies which would actually allow a park to open.  Right now only CGA would be allowed to open, no other park is located in a county in the correct tier.

This whole reopening system still seems like garbage that’s not really based on what it should be.  The rules as written allow CGA to open but require SFDK to stay closed which is just crazy.  But then frankly shopping at a grocery store is likely more dangerous then visiting an outdoor amusement park.

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It's California.  I'm not holding my breath.  Unless the Recall Newsom endeavor is about to reach their verified signature goal, in which case he'll throw everything out the window and pull a Texas,

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2 hours ago, SharkTums said:

I think it's important to note a few things in the 'reopening' news...

- Parks CAN reopen April 1st if they're in the correct tier. This could change. And Orange County and LA county are sometimes not the same tier.

- California residents only.

- Just because they CAN open doesn't mean they will, I could see them waiting a few weeks to make sure they are ready and numbers are still trending in the right direction. 

While you make some fair points, these parks are bugging to open up and I think they will do so immediately. The massive losses in revenue become a little less massive the day they open up. As a socal resident im confident Disney, Knott's, Universal, Seaworld, and Six Flags will all be open April 1. 

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^Just because it opens doesn't mean the losses become less massive. There are a lot of operating and running costs, staff wages, getting the park ready to open etc involved and if the park isn't confident that an open park with only 15% of attendance is going to have a big impact they might hesitate.

Or they'll look at ways to run the park that are less costly. Everland is one of the world's top 20 visited parks and for years now they've run a split shift system in the park on weekdays.  One ride in each zone running all day, then each zone has one ride open for a morning shift (10-2), a one hour 'break' then the other ride will open for the evening shift (3-8).

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1 hour ago, coastercoaster5 said:

While you make some fair points, these parks are bugging to open up and I think they will do so immediately. The massive losses in revenue become a little less massive the day they open up. As a socal resident im confident Disney, Knott's, Universal, Seaworld, and Six Flags will all be open April 1. 

I wouldn’t bet your life savings on that. 
 

Remember  what happened to SCBB when Santa Cruz was in the orange tier? They got one weekend of operation before the county moved back a tier.

OC, LA, and San Diego are not even in the red tier yet. The earliest possible date they can enter the red tier is March 23 IF they can cross below 7 cases per 100k this upcoming Tuesday. There will be weeks of training needed since every employee has been away for so long. It’s not as simple as “you remember how to do this right? Cool, take your test again and you’re gravy.”  I would guess OSHA will be very involved in inspecting all the parks ride reopening processes.

There’s not a chance in hell Disney or Universal with their unionized workforce will bring people back unless there is a HUGE margin for error to protect them from opening and then immediately being shut down if their counties go back into purple.

Millions of dollars in labor will be spent before the parks even open, so they are not going to think about opening unless it’s safe...

This is before even thinking about how to be profitable or even break even at 15% capacity. My guess would be that they will run “special events” that they can charge more for admission.  If the food festivals as “outdoor dining” can have a higher capacity, there’s no reason to stop doing those...

Sea World is probably the best bet, since they are basically half open already as a zoo.

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Can't wait to get back to last day of Knotts Scary Farm and Six Flags during slow November.  Fingers crossed the Raptor is running.  (yeah, right)

 

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I really don't think that any counties are going to slip back into more restrictive tiers at this point. Cases are and will only continue to drop from this point forward. Also, aside from Disney, no one will need "weeks" of training in order for the parks to reopen. If anything, the parks will reopen severely understaffed and train new employees as things get back up and running. They'll reopen as soon as they're given the go-ahead.

- My optimistic yet unscientific opinion

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