cal1br3tto Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Does Twister have as many laterals as the Legend did before the 2015-2016 offseason modifications (which I loved)? FWIW, the last time I rode Legend (in 2014), I felt the need to ride very defensively on many of my laps. I almost never brace myself to that extent, or at all. I don't remember wanting to do that on Twister, which I last rode in 2014 as well. However, it's absolutely up there in laterals, and even airtime on a good day. And yes. I would say there's never any shame in spending all your money on Fascination, but I think I managed to bring shame to it last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philrad71 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 So I just randomly bought a motor home last week...anyone ever stay at the Knoebels campgrounds before? I assume that if they are half as kick-ass as the park, it will rule? Any campground that has a kick-ass amusement park AND it's own golf course must result in one of the first trips that we do in our new RV. Although it's entirely possible that Hershey could be in the mix as well. Or I just say eff it and take an entire week off of work and do Knoebels for three days, Hershey for two days, Dorney for one and visit my sister for a couple of days in A-Town. I love thinking and drinking...all whilst posting on TPR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djcoastermark Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Haven't stayed at the campground but it looks nice. Walked through it for a bit. Keep in mind, you can think to excess at Knoebels but you can't drink to excess. You have to become a closet drinker there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philrad71 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 ^Yeah, it sucks that they don't serve beer at the park, but I get it. When it comes to closet drinking, I'm one of the best, my friend. Certainly not a problem as I can mesh with the best of them...Conservative Christians, Mountain Folk, City Folk, Seniors....human parking cones, Teddy Bear people, carnival barkers, an old lady wearing Kid 'N' Play hair & human fire hydrants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djcoastermark Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Oh My. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rai Fox Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 So I just randomly bought a motor home last week...anyone ever stay at the Knoebels campgrounds before? I assume that if they are half as kick-ass as the park, it will rule? Every summer. 9 days 'til I'm there again! It's basically what you'd expect from Knoebels; simple, clean, and friendly. It's relatively basic; sites for tents and campers, with power hookups and all. Bathrooms with running water, though they're...well, as others have mentioned the bathrooms aren't the highlight of Knoebels. They're passable though. A camp store with the basics and lots of treats, and a place to buy buckets of firewood. Most of the "kick-ass"-ness comes from it being at Knoebels, really. Waking up to the sound of Twister testing in the morning and wandering on down into the park before it actually opens. Just...being there. Finishing the last rides of the night at the park and just walking up to your tent or camper right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert425 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 ^Yeah, it sucks that they don't serve beer at the park, but I get it. When it comes to closet drinking, I'm one of the best, my friend. Certainly not a problem as I can mesh with the best of them...Conservative Christians, Mountain Folk, City Folk, Seniors....human parking cones, Teddy Bear people, carnival barkers, an old lady wearing Kid 'N' Play hair & human fire hydrants. re: Stephan: swiped to post on my wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philrad71 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 ^^ Thank you! In checking out the website, I see that Knoebels owns another campground a little further away (Lake Glory). I assume that the one next to the park you would have to book a year in advance, or would that just be for the major holiday weekends? My plan would be to go over a weekend, but not on a holiday weekend. It would be so much nicer to be able to have the park right next door - although it does look like Lake Glory offers a free shuttle service, which is cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rai Fox Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 ^^ Thank you! In checking out the website, I see that Knoebels owns another campground a little further away (Lake Glory). I assume that the one next to the park you would have to book a year in advance, or would that just be for the major holiday weekends? My plan would be to go over a weekend, but not on a holiday weekend. It would be so much nicer to be able to have the park right next door - although it does look like Lake Glory offers a free shuttle service, which is cool. I don't know, you'll have to just call and see, but when I go, usually sun-tuesday or mon-wed there are usually free spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwainw Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I think I know why Phoenix has been down. I was at the park yesterday for some Knoebels goodness, and I found these: In other news, the sky is falling. Actually, since Phoenix was still using one train operation, I couldn't get a good feel for how the new air gates affected capacity, but it obviously didn't help it. Twister's station on the other hand is still wide open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boldikus Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 ^ Uh-oh, coasterbill to thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcoaster Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I think I know why Phoenix has been down. I was at the park yesterday for some Knoebels goodness, and I found these: In other news, the sky is falling. Actually, since Phoenix was still using one train operation, I couldn't get a good feel for how the new air gates affected capacity, but it obviously didn't help it. Twister's station on the other hand is still wide open. This is pure evil, evil I say! #FreePhoenixAirGates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFOG1991 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Nooo why would they do anything to a coaster with such beautifully fast operations. I loved everything about the old set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellynn4 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Guys, it's because I'm visiting the park for the first time on Wednesday. Everyone knows I'm not allowed to have nice things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ul9601 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Nooo why would they do anything to a coaster with such beautifully fast operations. I loved everything about the old set up. what was the old setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterkid124 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 It's really surprising that they have been able to operate it without air gates for as long as they have. Especially with the strict standards in the industry today. I don't think that this will hamper operations too much. It's not like seatbelts were added. The crews will still be able to quickly check trains, and the gates might even make getting everyone behind the yellow line quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFOG1991 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Nooo why would they do anything to a coaster with such beautifully fast operations. I loved everything about the old set up. what was the old setup? No gates at all, just rows open to the station. When the train pulled in and stopped, people would get out as everyone in line moved it. People knew what they were doing and it was shockingly fast. There is a video of the 20 second dispatch and when I went I witnessed it in person, time and time again. From the time the train stops in the station to the time it is dispatched again was 20 seconds. In 20 seconds they could empty the train, fill the train with new riders, clear the ride platform, check every restraint, get back in their places and dispatch the train. It was magically and pretty much unbelievable. The fact that in the picture above, everyone is out of the train and they still have the air gates closed is very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) There I was... enjoying a nice Monday afternoon drive and Boldikus had to text me with this lunacy. How is it that everyone's been fine for almost a century but now they decided that people have obviously gotten dumber and might get themselves run over by a roller coaster train if there wasn't a gate there to force them to not be idiots? WTF? (To be fair this won't impact operations at all though) Edited June 20, 2016 by coasterbill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Theme Parks. Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Even with air gates, the operations will still be MUCH faster than pretty much any other park. But I hope they will eventually learn to open the air gates when people stand up, not when they leave the station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physical Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Pack it up gents, Phoenix got air gates. Shut down the forums, it's all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ul9601 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 If one rides it all the time and knows what to do then it's cool, everyone is a winner. Can't remember if there are rules sign posted at Twister but I tell you damn kids these days always ruin it for everyone. 20 seconds is impressive but MF crew at CP runs a great operation, best so far I've experienced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 This is absolutely a safety / standards thing, I would bet that they're legally required to completely empty the train and clear the platform of guests before letting new guests in. I would also bet that Twister will be getting gates as well very soon, if it hasn't already. I'm sure someone who gets bored over the next few days will find it in writing. Also, in fairness, during double train operation, people are usually waiting at least ten seconds or so after the crew has made their rounds for the second train to climb over the double-up anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarmor Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Ok I have to know, what makes the perogies so special at that one place vs the others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrthwnd Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 ^ Maybe it's the way they're served, garnished, plated, that makes the difference in taste? Sometimes, just how the same exact food "looks" when served, can have a bit of influence on how it "tastes" to different people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Finn Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 This truly does bum me out a lot. This is one of the little details I always include when ranting about how great Knoebels is to people. It has always been remarkable how quick operations were. Certainly, if they open the gates when the train comes to a stop, no damage done. The gates have served their purpose at that point. If they keep them closed until people leave, that will honestly slow things down a decent bit. We'll see! I knew it was only a matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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