A.J. Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Forgive my ignorance, but how can you patent bending and twisting what amounts to a variation of a simple I-beam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Forgive my ignorance, but how can you patent bending and twisting what amounts to a variation of a simple I-beam? Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbatboy Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Forgive my ignorance, but how can you patent bending and twisting what amounts to a variation of a simple I-beam? Maybe the theory isnt as simple as that, Alan himself said there was a patent on the track style in a interview at IAAPA 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedCycloneFreak Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 From RMC's website: Traditional wood tracks require a lot maintenance and high maintenance equals high costs. Our new IBox Track steel technology reduces maintenance costs significantly as well as increasing the track life and in turn reduces the overhead, resulting in substantial long term savings. A complete, all steel track system, the IBox Track eliminates the need for a wood stack as the new track sits on all steel ledgers. This new track allows you to add new thrilling elements to the coaster that traditional wood tracks do not allow. Patent US 8,590,455 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbatboy Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 From RMC's website:Traditional wood tracks require a lot maintenance and high maintenance equals high costs. Our new IBox Track steel technology reduces maintenance costs significantly as well as increasing the track life and in turn reduces the overhead, resulting in substantial long term savings. A complete, all steel track system, the IBox Track eliminates the need for a wood stack as the new track sits on all steel ledgers. This new track allows you to add new thrilling elements to the coaster that traditional wood tracks do not allow. Patent US 8,590,455 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Forgive my ignorance, but how can you patent bending and twisting what amounts to a variation of a simple I-beam? Â I'm not sure that we have any patent lawyers on TPR that can properly answer that questions. Patent law can be complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 I'm not sure that we have any patent lawyers on TPR that can properly answer that questions. Patent law can be complex. Â We don't have any mechanics with experience working on complex launched wooden roller coasters either but that never stopped anyone from providing us with page after page worth of unimaginable horse sh*t about how they should have built it and what the P.R. team is doing wrong during the delay. The TPR patent law experts will be here soon. It's best to just get a beer or twelve and prepare for the inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeagain? Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 I believe it's specifically the process that's patented. And the fact that none of the material is actually bent, nor is there an I beam anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytterbiumanalyst Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Speaking as an unlicensed armchair patent lawyer who has never even attended a law class of any kind, I can say with certainty that since this is a US patent, it doesn't apply on the moon. Anyone can build an I-box coaster on the moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scbt Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Okay, so I am not an expert in this, but here is the patent in question. - http://www.google.com/patents/US8590455 Â Â If I'm understanding it right, the patent is for their method of fabricating the tracks. What it seems like they do is plasma cut out pieces of flat steel and use them to assemble the curves, instead of heating and bending the metal to make the curves. This process keeps the tracks stronger than they would be if they were bent into shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILinator Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I'm not sure that we have any patent lawyers on TPR that can properly answer that questions. Patent law can be complex. Â We don't have any mechanics with experience working on complex launched wooden roller coasters either but that never stopped anyone from providing us with page after page worth of unimaginable horse sh*t about how they should have built it and what the P.R. team is doing wrong during the delay. The TPR patent law experts will be here soon. It's best to just get a beer or twelve and prepare for the inevitable. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technfxrick Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I'm not sure that we have any patent lawyers on TPR that can properly answer that questions. Patent law can be complex. Â We don't have any mechanics with experience working on complex launched wooden roller coasters either but that never stopped anyone from providing us with page after page worth of unimaginable horse sh*t about how they should have built it and what the P.R. team is doing wrong during the delay. The TPR patent law experts will be here soon. It's best to just get a beer or twelve and prepare for the inevitable. Â This may be the best thing i have read on the internet in a long long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeagain? Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Okay, so I am not an expert in this, but here is the patent in question. - http://www.google.com/patents/US8590455Â Â If I'm understanding it right, the patent is for their method of fabricating the tracks. What it seems like they do is plasma cut out pieces of flat steel and use them to assemble the curves, instead of heating and bending the metal to make the curves. This process keeps the tracks stronger than they would be if they were bent into shape. Â Correct. Stronger, and doesn't require large powerful equipment to bend anything in a precise shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 If I'm understanding it right, the patent is for their method of fabricating the tracks. What it seems like they do is plasma cut out pieces of flat steel and use them to assemble the curves, instead of heating and bending the metal to make the curves. This process keeps the tracks stronger than they would be if they were bent into shape. Kind of like pre-fabricating a wooden coaster. Got it, makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedCycloneFreak Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Speaking as an unlicensed armchair patent lawyer who has never even attended a law class of any kind, I can say with certainty that since this is a US patent, it doesn't apply on the moon. Anyone can build an I-box coaster on the moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Am I understanding this correctly? Based on the concept art... I'm guessing the ride will be set up in this space? I don't imagine they'd take Corkscrew down so shortly after refurbishing and moving it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrthwnd Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 ^ That looks about right to me, for it's future location. Right between the Corkscrew and Dragon 2000. I'm sure pathways and such will be redesigned and relocated for walking through and around it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted June 29, 2016 Author Share Posted June 29, 2016 Nagashima Spa Land looks like a real RCT park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixFlagsAstroworld Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Nagashima Spa Land looks like a real RCT park. Â Â It feels that way. It's easy to recreate it on rct3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imagineer Josh Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Nagashima Spa Land looks like a real RCT park. Â Can you explain more on this idea? Â It feels that way. It's easy to recreate it on rct3. Â Except for Steel Dragon 2000's support structure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted July 5, 2016 Author Share Posted July 5, 2016 Very very standard flat rides with the exception of a Zierer inverted flying carpet, roller coasters are mostly clones or has uninspiring layout, water park only has basic slides, nearly everything is in its own rectangular block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutterflower Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 It seems ACE did a tour of the S&S factory and saw parts of the trains for this ride. Got to say they've gone with some pretty bright colours   More Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Â Those colors though. . . It's like it was meant to be "McDonalds Play Place The Ride." Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yay101 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 ^ That is not a bad thing; McDonalds is one of the best fast food restaurants out there. I'd rather have a McDonalds themed Freespin at SFGAm than the Joker . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutterflower Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 We have vertical construction Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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