RoCo Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I like the ride just the way it is, so waiting a year is fine by me. Word. Except instead of "like," I'd throw in "worship slavishly," or "love to a stalkerish degree" or something else along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Fifteen Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Because of the extreme speeds and forces on The Voyage, we feel it is better to wait until there has been a full season of Timberliner-use elsewhere (on less extreme coasters which were designed with Timberliners in mind). I thought Holiday World bought the Timberliners because they were told that the Timberliners were designed with The Voyage in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal1br3tto Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Glad to hear the other Timberliners are expected to run this year. I'd been concerned about that. While I loved Voyage with PTCs, I think I'm more interested in riding it with TLs than trying to ride it this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jynx242 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 ^^ I think this is true, but having the Voyage as the first ride with them might not be the best idea. The Voyage (and Hades) are kind of extreme and I'd agree that testing them on a more "normal" ride might be best. I'd prefer them to get the "tweaked" design rather than the first of a kind. Gives them more data to use before the running them over the insane track that is The Voyage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Jizzman Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 While I loved Voyage with PTCs, I think I'm more interested in riding it with TLs than trying to ride it this year. Which is why I probably won't go to Holiday World this year But who knows. I think Wildebeest was just as good as Voyage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcdude Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 That's too bad. I'll be going to Holiday World for the first time this July and was hoping to try the Voyage with new trains. With the PTC trains, I've heard it runs very rough. Hopefully they've done some track work so this isn't the case, as I think Voyage looks like a great ride and I would prefer to not experience it in its worst possible condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 ^If they're smart they won't do too much track work as the PTC's will just rip it apart and they'll have to do it all over again for 2012. One of the conditions for getting the MF's on Gwazi was that Busch also did a really big retrack at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jynx242 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 ^If they're smart they won't do too much track work as the PTC's will just rip it apart and they'll have to do it all over again for 2012. One of the conditions for getting the MF's on Gwazi was that Busch also did a really big retrack at the same time. Agreed! If I'm not mistaken, running the PTC's caused them to have to do major track work every off season, right? Hence - the Timberliners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterFanatic Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Agreed! If I'm not mistaken, running the PTC's caused them to have to do major track work every night, right? Fixed that for you. They actually put equipment on site due to all the maintenance they were performing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumbarider1993 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Where are they gonna get the trains? before the 2010 season, the Voyage's old PTC trains were sent to Darien lake and now run on the predator. i really need to go to Darien lake again, because along with two new trains, they also did major re-tracking from 2008-2010 on the ride. It was good when i rode it in 2003, still good in 2004, but it was Awful in 2007. i seriously felt shoulder and chest pains after a backseat ride. i'm glad it's getting improved. But it's a total bummer that holiday world cant run the new trains this season, but i guess it's for the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGAm Shock Wave Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 ^Darien Lake only got 2 of the 3 trains. This year, Voyage will be running the one remaining original train and one brand new 7 car PTC Train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 How long have they been testing the timberliners with water dummies? Doesn't really make sense to me that water dummy testing isn't sufficient... They must have found something pretty serious during testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatle11 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 If it makes the ride better in 2012 than doing it now, I say it's the right call. Just have to be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Has Voyage ever ran 3 trains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster-Lab Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 So this means that the first official coaster running Timberliners will be Twister at Grona Lund? Yay I'm riding in June!!!!! Hey, Me too ! I'm going in August. I'm looking forward to seeing the new red trains, I think it will be a shorter train than the raven because of the fact that is has so many tight turns and drops, or am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skycoastin Steve Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I'm just glad to hear that the other TGG installations will be using Timberliners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jynx242 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 ^ We'll get to try them out at Quassy this summer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy T. Koepp Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Can't say I didn't kinda see this coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skycoastin Steve Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 ^ We'll get to try them out at Quassy this summer! Yep, that was pretty much my thinking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big-M Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I heard Knoebels is looking for some trains. For what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcsteve Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Has Voyage ever ran 3 trains? Paula could answer that best. I've only been there for HoliWood Nights the past three years and they only had two running. They've got loading down to a science and two work great with the way they do things. Actually, I think I may have asked Will about that one time and he said three trains didn't really help with throughput. The third train would just keep people waiting in the brake run. Plus, with two trains, they don't need to use the brake at the end of the turn around before the triple-down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ONE Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Has Voyage ever ran 3 trains? Yes. I attended Holiwood Nights in 2006 and they ran all 3 trains during ERT Saturday night. I'm not sure about Friday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Maven Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 ^ kcsteve -- that's correct. Thanks, Paula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Cool Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Just booked my hotel for Holiwood Nights. Cannot wait for my first trip to Holiday World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenseOFone Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Good to see they're being incredibly patient with those new trains Something tells me SOB and other such coaster accidents keep flashing through their minds. These trains are supposed to be next gen for a woodie, but if anything goes wrong, that track won't be as nice to the trains or the riders as a calmer woodie like Wooden Warrior. That just means anyone who hasn't ridden it with the PTCs should head out there this season I got to ride on both the original PTC train, and the Ravage train last summer! So if I get back there with the TLs, I'll have three separate credits on that beast, according to Jeff Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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